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- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Oh they grow plants in their backyards... just not the ones specifically for eating... more so the type you can smoke :D
- digitalgopher, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29That ***** Ronald Mcdonald is up to no good again!
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26I don't usually drive past Italy during my morning commute. Maybe when Italy opens up franchises in America that are open 24 hours a day and serve hot coffee and egg mcmuffins to me at 6am, I'll stop there for healthier food.
- antipro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23or Chickens are destroying the world!!
wait McDonalds uses real chickens?? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19The people living around the Amazon are doing what everyone does everywhere: utilizing their environment to make a living. If Greenpeace is worried about saving the rain forest, they need a plan where harvesting the rain forest becomes more profitable. Sounds crazy? If trees make a farmer more money than soybeans, guess what they'll start planting? Trees!
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21"To call attention to the report's finding, Greenpeace plastered many McDonald's restaurants in the United Kingdom with posters of Ronald McDonald wielding a chain saw. The group also had dozens of people in chicken costumes invade McDonald's restaurants, chaining themselves to the chairs, Edwards said."
Sad, it seems Greenpeace is getting as bad as the PETA people:
http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/709.html - modian, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24Try and stop us.
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3305/tryandstopus4gu.jpg - jcmead, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17"greenpeace" Bah even one of the founders, Patrick Moore, left them (when) the anti-civilization, anti-human, anti-globalization, anti-trade ultra-left extremists took over those groups, he turned his back on them.
- Battlecry, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18It IS sad.. Greenpeace used to be a good community back in the day. They really raised awareness about our environment. Now they're mostly a bunch of looneys.
Save the whales! - oliwatts, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15interesting... i'm a vegetarian so have no call for mcdonalds, but i do eat soy and soy products. perhaps i'm doing more harm than good with my crazy vegetarian lifestyle!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9this reminds me of a joke........
How many ELF (earth liberation front) members does it take to change a lightbulb?
none. ELF can't change anything. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Well duh. He's a clown.
- iKato, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Agreed. I'm as concerned about the environment as most people (Heck, probably more), but Greenpeace I'll never listen to.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@yukevster
Well, I recycle and I'm a vegan. I just don't go around in internet chatrooms bragging about it. It's annoying and my comment was a reference to South Park's episode last week in which annoying environmentalists buy hybrids so they can feel superior. I hate that kind of attitude because it does nothing for the cause. It just turns people away. - axessterminated, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9If I was eating at McDonald's and a bunch of morons came in in chicken suits and chained themselves to chairs...you can bet your ass I'd be pissed. They may be angry about something, but what ***** right do they have that allows them to interrupt a meal that I paid for. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression...but not when it comes at the cost of others. Posting signs like that at McDonald's is vandalism, and they should be punished. Chaining yourself to a chair in a business is disturbance of the peace, inciting a riot, and possibly vandalism if they cause damage with the chains.
People need to grow up and stop throwing blood on fur coats.
A_T - xagoln, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14No, actually by eating vegetarian you're consuming less soy than someone who eats animals that were fed soy (i.e. most meat in the USA) - because the animals eat soy for most of their lives to produce just a few pounds of beef or whatever. Thus the person eating the beef is indirectly consuming a proportion of all of the soy the animal ate in its lifetime. Each pound of beef also requires thousands of litres* of fresh water - just think of all the water an animal drinks in its life before being turned into a steak.
* References: http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/71/4/818 and http://www.unhmagazine.unh.edu/sp01/waterusesp01.html - marmite, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Without MacDonalds where would chavs eat? Poor things'd starve to death...
...hold on a minute... - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I don't think this is about protecting McDonald's, this is about not believing anything from the psychotic organization known as Greenpeace. They're out of their damned minds and they'll make up or do anything to get publicity. These are the same people who stormed an oil rig and held it hostage for a week until the military raided them. They aren't reasonable or even believable. Neither is McDonalds.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12I think the smug levels just increased in here.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Yeah that's essentially how it works. If you've seen Super Size Me, they say that they grind up chicken parts, some of it meat, some it other and press it into the molds of those four shapes, batter it up, fry it, freeze it, ship it across country, refry it and sell it. I think the term they used for the nugget was McFrankennugget
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Agreed. I was in Rota, Spain a few years ago, and heard a story from a Spanish navy sailor about a Greenpeace ship that attempted to prevent a Spanish aircraft carrier from leaving port. I don't remember the reason why Greenpeace decided to do this. Anyway, they pulled the plug out from one of the lower deck guns and unloaded into the little rickety Greenpeace ship after giving them more than a few chances to move.
Awesome. - sablazo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Greenpeace is great, but their story is largely BS.
I do deforestation research in the Amazon, and Soybean production is a huge concern, but nearly all of the production gets (1) consumed in Brazil, or (2) sold to asia. Since bird flu concerns are huge with asian poultry right now I sincerely doubt that anyone in the EU is importing birds from asia, and Brazil (and other countries with parts in the Amazon basin) have very little poultry production.
This is the same as the whole 'hamburger connection' thing that turned out to be crap during the 1980s. Supposedly Costa Rican and Brazilian rainforest was going to our North American fast-food hamburgers. Turns out that there was almost no real evidence for the claim... - jcronkhite, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12I don't know when it happened, but when I was a kid I feel like the food was less engineered and more "real". But now, if I need a good "blowout" (a painful one at that), I just drop in to my local McDonald's and order a #1. I'm no crazy hippy but I have to give this one to the rain forests. Save the rain forests and kill the clown...actually, just kill the damn clown.
- RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Lets get the French to sink their ship again.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -11/+17"Here's a suggestion, use soybeans grown in the US. We've got plenty of them and we didn't have to burn down a million acres of rain forest for the land to grow them on"
But but but.. the mega corporations can't afford to! They're so poor they can't afford to do business in America so they ship labor off to India and grow stuff in Brazil and buy oil from the Middle East.
Let's get real, corporations are about their bottom lines. They'll continue to do whatever's cheapest for them, no matter what Greenpeace screams about. This government certainly won't pass any laws prohibiting it, and the Brazillian's and the Middle East and India are certainly not going to pass any laws prohibiting it, because that's how business works. Nobody cares about the Earth or the fact that it'll be unlivable within decades, just as long as I can get my tech support right this instant, and just as long as I can get my chicken sandwiches for a buck a piece.
*sigh*. The world we live in.. activism alone just doesn't work anymore, there's not enough money in it. If you really care, go lobby your senators and represenatives, and make sure to line their pockets with a few dollars. - megaloid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Of course Chicken McNuggets are organic. Organic, free-range, sustainably-harvested, fair-trade-certified, no trans-fats, wholesome goodness. In fact, eating a serving of Chicken McNuggets has been proven to have health and environmental benefits equivalent to ten glasses of wheat grass juice and four 11-watt compact flourescent bulbs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+26I appreciate Greenpeace most of the time, but lets get real.
People need to eat - McDonalds serves that need (however poor the food is).
Unless Greenpeace wants to float some great ideas about how to improve the situation, they should just STFU and stop bitching. Im sure these greanpeace people arent growing their own food in their own backyards. - LegendOfLink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I love McDonald's and I hate stupid hippies like Greenpeace. People hate Mickey D's because they're so big. You should hate rich people/entities who deserve it: like Enron and Martha Stuart.
- oliwatts, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8because obviously, they are better and use organic ingrediants, sustainable farming and low food miles of course!...
- jav1231, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Ah Greenpeace. When you get the urge to smack someone with a bat, I suggest a Greenpeace member.
- rutty, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11So many people marking down "McDs are crap" comments. Let's face it, I'd rather eat my own shoes than go back into a MacDonalds again. Alphac is correct - the food in Italy is generally cheap and delicious and far more healthy than the rubbish served in fast food restaurants.
- diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Absolutely correct economics. Elephants are cared for better when local tribes own them. When no one ones them people eagerly pouch them.
If we cared about the rain forest we would legalize drugs, too. Too much rain forest is mowed down to make surplus drugs that will be discarded by the police. - aurifex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Greenpeace... wern't they the ones that scrapped a coral reef with one of their boats over in europe somewhere, and got banned for destroying the enviroment?
Har har. - PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7knightcrawler75: Did you not read the full sentence .. "chicken costumes invade McDonald's restaurants, chaining themselves to the chairs"
Yeah, chaining yourself to a chair at a McDonalds in a chicken costume is really sane. I feel bad for any kids in the fast food joint who had to witness such a thing. - djdole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Greenpeace is just a bunch of quacks.
Granted it's got 'peaceful' hippie reporter roots, but today it's just evolved today into a channel for eco-terrorists and young teens who get swept up in their pipe-dream, lions can peacefully live with lambs, hug a tree, meat is evil, war is a invention of man propaganda.
It's just another organization full of members from a generation that never experienced true evil (such as WWII death camps, WWI face-to-face combat and death, actual combatant war, or any of the like.) So they (like Peta, ALF, & ELF) get the idea in their heads that the true evils of the world lie in corporations, humans or even just eating meat in general.
Millions of people wouldn't die of hunger every year if Greenpeace wouldn't strive to convince the governments of many starving countries that seeds (of all things) are evil.
(The 80's eco-age was fun, but I (like many other people) have grown up.)
But that's just my opinion after years of listening and watching their *****. - cathode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Right... it's really a social war... hate something or someone because they're successful. It's a knee-jerk reaction.
- Hendo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is sooo stoopid.
McDonald's does not have a deal with Brazillian farmers. Soy beans are distributed by other companies, like ADM, and then bought by chicken farms who then sell chickens to McDs. - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Don't blame McDonald's , and don't blame the subsistence farmers who are just doing what they need to do to survive. No, in my opinion the fault lies with the governments of these countries. It's their responsibility to regulate and actively enforce preservation. It's in their own best interest, really.. once the forest is gone, many of these countries literally have no other resources.
- rutty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So, MacDonald's are contributing to the destruction of the rain forests because of their food-sourcing policies? So, to follow that path of logic does this mean that those many millions of people that eat in MacDonald's are just as culpable?
Couldn't they grow this stuff in Ohio or somewhere like that. There's not much else there anyway.
Greenpeace are the Masters of exaggeration and emotional blackmail. Well-meaning though they are, they're really their own worst enemy when it comes to getting their message across - yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Good point.
But let's talk priorities here; Is the livelihood of these select few Brazilian farmers more important than the survival of the Amazon rain-forest - Which represents over half of the planet's remaining rain-forests and comprises the largest and most species rich tract of land that exists anywhere. Not to mention indigenous tribes, 90 of which have been destroyed by European colonists since the 1900s, and with them have gone centuries of accumulated knowledge of the medicinal value of rainforest species. As tribal homelands continue to be destroyed by deforestation, native rainforest tribes continue to disappear.
Surely, the farmers are ultimately the responsibility of the Brazilian government. - GetOffMyLawnKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4grow up???...and this is coming from someone who posted a few lines up to digg this for the childrens future and oh I'm so great because I eat vegetables.
Hey Joshua I think we just found the moonbat.
wish I could keep boosting SkeletaLlama's quote of the smug levels. - cranium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I wonder how many Greenpeace members are vegetarians. Vegetarians usually eat a lot of soy bean products. Greenpeace is destroying the Amazon rain forest!
- jdelamater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Talk about proximate cause...
- megaloid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Just be glad that you did your part to make New Jersey a better place.
- Schmitty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anyone else think of Kevin Bacon when reading the description? Just checking...
- RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"..they pulled the plug out from one of the lower deck guns and unloaded into the little rickety Greenpeace ship after giving them more than a few chances to move."
US doesn't have the balls to do this anymore. God forbid they upset a special interest group. US has been neutered.
local example.
http://www.kgw.com/business/stories/kgw_040506_news_fur_defense.69999f5.html - n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@techknowpagan: people need to eat yes, but they don't NEED fast food.
- gmailgeoff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Rainforests are for hippies. I'm luvin' it.
- kokobaroko, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7or just eat NORMAL healthy food like the rest of civilized world? There are places where you feed the cow with the grass that is growing on your own field (sounds crazy?). Well thats the way we do it here in Poland.
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Um... Green Peace are a bunch of nuts that promote and fund people to burn things down / vandalized buildings etc. etc. They pretty much in my opinion domestic terrorists whom are out of control. In fact, the creator of green peace hates green peace now. I think I heard all of this in a Bull *****! episode of Penn and Teller....
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