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- trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -4/+70Scary. At least should be.
- trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Tzar Bomba was actually detonated at only half power. They had to remove the outer casing which was made of heavy radioactive materials because the nuclear fallout would have been way too massive. They feared other nations would get aroused. In fact the bomb detonated at full power would have doubled the amount of all the pollution ever released to athmosphere by nuclear weapons testing. One bomb. Versus hundreds of others detonated!
The outer casing was designed to reflect some of the energy back and to keep the package compressed for a tiny fraction of a second longer. It would have made the reaction last slightly longer, doubling the power. Now imagine the picture if they would have detonated the bomb at full power... - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48Extremely scary. This is why nations around the world are so paranoid of hostile countries or terrorist groups getting nukes/WMDs.
- mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31That's a good way to show the size difference in bombs. Here's another way http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html, it's a calculator that shows the range of various effects. To get the figures for Little Boy (Hiroshima) and Fat Man (Nagasaki), put in 0.015 megatons and 0.021 megatons, respectively. The US has a bunch of 0.060 mt, 0.100 mt, and 0.150 mt bombs, along with plenty of 1.2 mt bombs and some 9 mt ones.
Here's another, a graphical one that shows the radii of nuclear effects overlayed onto a city of your choice. This one is nice because it has a slider that goes down to 1 kiloton http://www.fas.org/main/content.jsp?formAction=297&contentId=367 . Pretty small, I think to get this small of a yield it would have to be a dud. Only goes up to 4 mt? Oh well, just use your imagination beyond that.
Here's the old way, a nuclear effects circular slide rule http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Bombcalc?yield=20&yunit=1&sburst=y&range=3&runit=1&rotate=0&imsize=800 .
When I was growing up and later after I had a family, I obsessed over stuff like this. I could see downtown Dallas from where I worked at the top of a broad hill 20 miles away. On my walks around the campus, I would imagine seeing the air burst, waiting for the sound, waiting for the shock wave. For a while, after Gorbachev came to power and Reagan calmed down, I didn't spend much time imagining what would happen in a nuclear war. Now it looks as though those days have returned, but at least if it comes it won't be the end of Mankind.
P.S. - That shock wave thing is something that really bugs me about almost all depictions of nuclear blasts in movies and tv. Sound travels a lot slower than light, so in those early tests on the atolls, where they were miles away, you would see the fireball, and then much later the sound would come. I thought that was a really good illustration of the power of nuclear devices. But I guess some idiots complained "Why is the sound out of sync?" so they dumbed all that stuff down and now most of the time you hear the sound and see the light at the same time. - sanman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32I gotta wonder whether such a huge yield nuclear device wouldn't be useful for stuff like terra-forming eventually:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzar_bomba
I mean, if you could use an humongous (giga-ton?) explosion to knock a large Kuiper Belt object into a collision with Venus or even Mars, maybe you could create an inhabitable planet from that.
I wonder what the limit is on how large a nuclear explosion we can make? - NikoKun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Hell Tzar Bomba would have destroyed the whole country of Japan... @__@ God I hate these weapons...
Go to the Hiroshima Peace Park... It will change how you look at these bombs... It really shows you the reality... - doosh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Not as scary as the graph would have you believe.
Note the classic graph fallacy / misrepresentation of comparing on just one dimension while showing the result growing in *two* dimensions. Comparing the *areas* of the smallest blast compared to the *area* of the largest, you are being shown something a square of itself too large. A classic way of cheating explained in "How to Lie with Statistics" and many other sources. Shame of the exaggeration! - yubpro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31this is a comment that shouldn't even be remotely pondered upon...
- addrake, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27@jubbagetsme
Because only Americans worry about wack-jobs getting devices that kill thousands at once.
Jack-ass - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25And think about it.
Caprica six said a 50megaton bomb was detonated above Caprica city.
Then, you saw hundreds of nukes going off on Caprica alone.
Its a wonder Baltar survived. - NtHammer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24the soviets made massive bombs because their accuracy was so bad, i bet that this one would hit the target no matter what!
- dliu4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I thought Hiroshima was devastating.. look at Tzar Bomba
- macaddct1984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I'm not sure who is digging doosh down, but he's absolutely right.
The fact that there is no value on the X axis, yet they're showing varying widths of the blasts is very misleading...
Anyway, some statistics on the test blast:
"The fireball touched the ground, reached nearly as high as the altitude of the release plane, and was seen 1,000 km (621 mi) away. The heat could have caused third degree burns at a distance of 100 km (62 mi). The subsequent mushroom cloud was about 60 km (37mi) high and 30–40 km (20-25 mi) wide. The explosion could be seen and felt in Finland, even breaking windows there. Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage up to 1,000 km away. The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the earth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzar_Bomba - trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -11/+271) "our"? Coun't 90%+ of the people out, we don't have any problems with the middle east.
2) It would just create huge backslash from the other countries - stuff like USA embargoed completely, try surviving without any imported oil etc. - PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17alexonix, it's called etymology. The russians got the word tzar from cea[tzar]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar . Don't be so hostile and try using the resources available to you before putting your fingers on the keyboard.
- berwiki, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21is that to scale at all??
i mean the width of Tzar Bomba compared to Hiroshima would completely level this entire country.
i realize the weapons they have now are much more powerful, but comeon...i was hoping for a circular graph or something to indicate the entire blast radius of the newer more powerful bombs...because wouldnt exponential decay/friction decrease overall blast size, (ie 50-MegaTon vs 60-MegaTon would cover about 1 extra foot in overall diameter) - Ghostal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Here's a video of the Tsar Bomba going off, and a little discussion. The plane that dropped it was almost destroyed while getting away.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2046393742348211186 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyUSv2Z07A - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20""The nukes that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved lives."
No, they didn't, but I see your speculative point."
No.
There were experts who agreed on both sides that an American invasion of Japan and the Japanese islands would have costed 100,000 American lives, and at least 5 times as many Japanese since the Japanese rarely surrendered, and Japanese civilians weren't afraid to fight. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"Worlds Largest Nuke Explosion" video of Tsar Bomb:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2046393742348211186 - zachblume, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22"The nukes that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved lives."
Does the end justify the means? We still killed thousands of civilians! I mean god, we actually targeted civilians ON PURPOSE. Seriously, go to Hiroshima. I did once. I was standing in the Peace Park, and obviously looked American, for a young woman walked up to me and asked me "How I felt about the US using the bomb." That was literally the most profound moment of my life. Try telling that Japanese women you thought it was a good idea. I'm sure she remembers at least one person in her family that died of some kind of radioactive-caused cancer or poisening and such.
Why the hell didn't we detonate it where it could be seen and didn't kill anyone, so it just scared the living Jesus out of everyone. And if those military people really got pushy, why didn't we use it on a remote Japanese military base at the least. Holy *****! what the ***** were they thinking? - BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21Hiroshima bomb saved lives? Think of all the lives Tzar Bomb could've saved!!!
sarcasm - janoside, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@orbit1979
J. R. Oppenheimer, one of the principal developers of nuclear weapon technology had this to say about his witnessing of the Trinity explosion:
"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
They fully understood the magnitude and reach of their work, as do military scientists of today (although they may not want to think about it). These scientists just happened to work in the field that allows the most death and destruction to ensue from their creations. - Rikushix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11And yet did you know that the chemical energy released by Tsar Bomba was still 1/4 of the power of the eruption of Krakatoa in Indonesia? Nature is a lot more powerful than we think.
- cybermort, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12actually the Tzar Bomba would've been twice as powerful if the soviets hadn't crippled the device on purpose in order to reduce fallout.
- felyduw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@alexonix
I would digg your comment down two times if I could due to the sheer ignorance.
César, Kaiser, Tzar and Czar all come from the latin word caesar. - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Tsar Bomba had no practical use at all. It was simply too large to actually USE it as a weapon, its only use was to be tested so that the whole world would notice and be scared.
- orbit1979, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I always wonder what the people who come up with this ***** think. I wonder if their proud of their "achievments" in designing and building such weapons. I wonder, when they go home to their families, and the wife/husband askes, "how was your day" or "anything exciting happen today at work...hun?" What is the response? "Oh me and the guys brainstromed some ideas and how to more effectively and efficiently kill millions of innocent people, can you pass the potatos". "So how are grades son?"
I really do wonder. - Eyeooga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10don't forget our europe, asia, south america, canada, and mexico problems, too!!!
- William01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9So it's within the rights of any nation we've preemptively attacked to nuke us?
- vinbot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Where would the North Korean bomb test be on this chart, I wonder?
- Shrill, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15No, I'd say a terrorist group is considerably scarier IMO.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It was about 0.5kt apparently, so about the size of the bunker buster - though it should have been Hiroshima size but didn't get a very good yield.
There have been suggestions the explosion was largely caused by the High Explosives used to start the chain reaction, so the essential yield was approaching a couple of percent. - XJNL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"Hell Tzar Bomba would have destroyed the whole country of Japan"
No, it wouldn't. This image is a simple bar graph, with mushroom clouds instead of bars. It is not an accurate comparison of the size of the explosions they produced. - Daedalus81, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"is that to scale at all??"
Uhh, yea its on a graph. Look down for a webpage for the radius of the explosions and effects. - friedcalamari, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8A nuclear war can ruin your whole day.
- Brigs44444, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The Soviets have a history of unnecessarily large objects; 1) Tsar Bomba, 2) Tsar Pushka, an 18 ton cannon cast in 1586 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Cannon and 3) Tsar Kolokol, a 160 ton bell that sits in Red Square. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Kolokol
- loquedesea, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8you're a total creep. what's with all of the stuff you've submitted recently about violating children and other useless contributions?? http://digg.com/users/jubbagetsme/news/dugg i'd rather be an american than an absolute weirdo...
- Shrill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9No, I'm from the UK don't watch Fox or CNN - I just honestly think a terrorist group getting ahold of one of these is spine chilling. Simple as that.
- CryoNine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Large bombs are scary, but MIRV-enabled nukes are almost more terrifying. It's one thing to completely destroy a city and a large area surrounding it... it's another to completely destroy 10 cities at the same time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-118A_Peacekeeper
Nukes are one of those things that are interesting to read about but something you pray you never actually see. - jester11, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8You can't hug trees with nuclear arms.....whaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
- mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5On a side note; does anyone know the song playing in the Youtube video?
- Mephistocles, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10CHRIST ON A BIKE! That's interesting, I've always thought that a Nuclear Bomb was one of the most terribly beautiful images possible; all the raw and terrible power. Truly mankind's worst invention, aside from castration of course
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Are you honestly that stupid or are you just a troll?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Well, as long as it kills me quickly
I don't care how big it is - Chesterfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My neighbor's dogs bark all night. That would shut them up in a hurry.
- CryoNine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"lol @ american *****. have u lot ever heard yourselves. jesus man, the world isnt just America u no. ignorant *****."
So I assume much like the people that suggested "nuke them all" (that you assume are American, by the way) you represent the viewpoint for your entire country and every single person in it... right? This may come to a shock to you (living in that hole after all), but not everyone wishes the use of nuclear weapons to destroy anything. Personally I see ignorant human beings such as yourself as the biggest threat to our survival. I'd wager that given the chance you'd vote Bush! ;) - mtnsoccerguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Holy crap thats huge!"
That's what she said. - Tetranitrate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Is that a tsar bomb in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
- shank2001, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12@returnofmalv.... we DID, it was called Trinity (I would call that quite the demonstration), and that did not make the Japanese surrender, neither did Hiroshima, it took a SECOND nuke before Japan was sufficiently convinced to surrender. We gave the Japanese Gov. plenty of warning before the bombing as well. We even dropped leaflets in Hiroshima and Nagasaki warning people what was going to happen and how horrible it would be. Do some research. The Japanese even admit they were not going to surrender at any cost during a traditional assault on the Japan homeland. But they finally understood after Nagasaki, thank goodness. You fail to realize many people alive today, both American and Japanese owe their very existence to those two nukes thanks to their grandparents and parents actually being alive to give birth to them, which was highly unlikely if their had been an actual assault on Japan.
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