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- moracity, on 12/03/2007, -2/+36These forcasters didn't predict anything. It was pure scare tactics to further the global warming agenda. There was zero science behind these "predictions".
My prediction: they will continue to "predict" many hurricanes every year. Eventually, they'll be right and the sky will fall. Maybe next time, New Orleans will get finished off so we don't have to hear about it anymore. Third-world countries have recovered from far worse. They don't sit around waiting for someone to hand them a check...they just rebuild. What's embarrassing about Katrina is the people of New Orleans, not missteps by the government. My mom lives there and I was down in the middle of it helping to clean up. While many of us were cleaning up, others were sitting around complaining and laying blame instead of doing something constructive. - BigManOnCampus, on 12/03/2007, -10/+37Ah yes, I remember it well... After Katrina, everyone was predicting gloom and doom. The U.S. was about to get walloped every year by more and more powerful hurricanes. "It's all our fault!" they all said, "We brought these terrible storms on ourselves and now we will get even worse storms to come, more destruction each year!"
They sounded like doomsayers of old then, and they look like fools now.
Two years hence... and nada.
The first in a long string of predictions by AGW alarmists going wrong? Methinks.... methinks... - inactive, on 12/03/2007, -2/+27Somehow this is GWB's fault... sigh.
- spyd3rweb, on 12/03/2007, -0/+15This is bad news for all the Global Warming fear mongers.
- inactive, on 12/03/2007, -6/+19GLOBAL WARMING!! FEAR! FEAR! VOTE DEMOCRAT!! GLOBAL WARMING!! GIVE THE UN ALL YOUR TAX DOLLARS!! FEAR FEAR!
Suck it, warm-mongers. - BlackStrain, on 12/03/2007, -1/+14I predict that next year we will have more, less or the same number of hurricanes as this year.
- inactive, on 12/03/2007, -2/+12Yes.
- ozymandias2012, on 12/03/2007, -1/+11"I'm concerned that the public could lose confidence in the forecasting of individual storms because of the inaccuracies of long-range forecasts," ...that's an inconvenient truth.
- heartcoldfusion, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8It's not that the estimates were high. It's that they were apocalyptic. Before the season the experts warned that this year would have many devastating hurricanes, possibly multiple Katrinas. Not only were there not many hurricanes, none of them were relatively powerful. People are fed up with 'experts' trying to scare them at every possible turn to generate hype.
- trollick, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7Wow, it must be Global Warming that's causing all this unpredictability.
- DucoNihilum, on 12/03/2007, -0/+71. Um, YES... it was....
2. We're NOT all going to die?! GHASP! Wait, we're predicting something we can't predict? Then maybe storms will go on the DECLINE rather than incline? AFAIK- our weather is staying the same if not getting more mild.
Global warming as it's seen today, as a doomsday prediction caused by the evil humans and the evil capitalists..... is for hte most party a myth. - deadparts, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7The only weather I take somewhat seriously is tomorrow's weather. And even that with a grain of salt.
- DucoNihilum, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6Correction- manbearpig.
- torched, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6Not only will I not take them seriously, I am going to sue for the stress they caused me!
- proliance, on 12/03/2007, -1/+7Gorebal warming at its best.
- DuffyDirect, on 12/03/2007, -2/+8Well in this movie I saw called the day after tomorrow there were hurricanes, but the twist was that they were super-cold and created a frozen rampage that even chased jake gylenhal and some hot brunette down a hallway (but they narrowly escaped)
- bffoley, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6Yep. Look at the people who refused to leave before Katrina hit. They thought the NOAA was the boy who cried wolf and then bitched afterwards that nobody would come and save them.
- smergs, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6The problem is that no one knows wtf they are talking about. We might very well be experiencing global warming but maybe it doesn't cause tons of massive hurricanes like they were trying to say. I personally don't put any blame on either side of the govt. in this argument. I put all blame in the media for not just reporting what really happens instead of using their scare tactics to try and get us to watch the news and stay interested. Is it so hard for them to just report the freaking news and leave the rest of the filler crap out???
- jedicurt, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6please... i work with NOAA NWS and the Hurricane Center, here in the US, everyday.... and i never believed their predictions... so what has changed?
(actually, i'm just kidding, they do their job quite well... however, they have been far off the past few years... which just goes to show that we don't know near as much about weather as we think we do) - tekmonkey, on 12/03/2007, -0/+5Oh, so the bad news is that people are stupid? I was afraid it was going to be that all these missing hurricanes were going to team up and hit all at once.
- Barbarino, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4Here in Fla, we don't pay attention to predictions but we are prepared much much better. If they would force you to put on hurricane roofs (not tile), park your car in your garage, use shutters, and put the power lines underground, I'd say 85% of the damage is gone. But nope, you can keep putting on the same ***** roof that gets blown off every 5 years. My co-worker is on his 3rd roof, all tile!
- quentinp, on 12/03/2007, -1/+5I don't see the problem with not taking the number of forecasted hurricanes per year seriously..is it really a useful number? I mean I want to know if a hurricane is going to hit next week, but the fact that there MIGHT be 10 this year instead of 8 is really irrelevant.
- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 12/03/2007, -3/+7Please just take my word for it, and I am not being sarcastic.
Reputable meteorologists think Phil Klotzbach is a joke. Accuweather is beyond "joke" status. These guys issue hype forecasts to garner attention, similar to how many local news stations love to hype snowstorms that fizzle.
NOAA and the NHC issued more conservative forecasts. These still exceeded the actual count of hurricanes for the season, but it just goes to show how difficult long range forecasting is.
Much more important is the accuracy of storm tracking -- a storm's impact in, say, the next week. - jhnewt, on 12/03/2007, -1/+5Wolf!!!
- zebr, on 12/03/2007, -4/+8"GLOBAL WARMING!! FEAR! FEAR! VOTE DEMOCRAT!! GLOBAL WARMING!! GIVE THE UN ALL YOUR TAX DOLLARS!! FEAR FEAR!
Suck it, warm-mongers."
Couldn't agree more. ***** you Al Gore! LULZ MANBEARPIG - Chahrlie5, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4You heartless bastard, how dare you post truth and honesty on digg. You can't expect Americans to be resilient like the Japanese when they have Earthquakes. We are helpless people who shouldn't take care of ourselves, big brother should be coddling us 24/7.
- connieLingus, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3this is old news...atmospheric scientists in the 50's realized that weather is a non-linear system, and that very small perturbations can propagate over time into huge, unpredictable changes in the atmosphere.
it's blithy called the "butterfly effect" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect , and in "conveniently" forgotten by scientists when necessary to try to secure funding. - TubaTechno, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3Shame on them for trying to protect it's citizens from natural disasters!
- DucoNihilum, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3I'm not convinced that there is a 'crisis'.
- Dingo128, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3"NOAA and the NHC issued more conservative forecasts. These still exceeded the actual count of hurricanes for the season, but it just goes to show how difficult long range forecasting is."
Yet, it is similar prediction computer models that this same community show the public to prove that humans were the cause of global warming. We have turned into a society of excitement seeking sheep. If the "news" being reported does have some flair (like the U.S. is going to be crushed with massive hurricanes) then people don't pay attention. - didiman, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3You're a moron. Katrina was a cat. 5 hurricane, and I believe the 3rd strongest storm that has ever hit the U.S. mainland.
- WilliamDavis, on 12/03/2007, -7/+10What? We're too dumb to understand that an estimate can be high sometimes?
- bladzalot, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3What the heck do they expect. My local weather forecaster cannot even predict if we are going to get precipitation or not, let alone what is going to happen in the next four months. When they can start making accurate predictions on simple weather occurances, then maybe we can trust them with something more serious.
- neuropsychguy, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3"none of them were relatively powerful" if you only look at the U.S.
- RealmDown, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3This is great news! 2007 hurricanes fewer than predicted? That's at least -1970 hurricanes. woohoo!
- StGhurka, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3I can't tell if your quote is supposed to be serious. Maybe I'm dense and not getting the joke, but where did that quote come from? The Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale maxes out at 5.
- thefandango, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2i believe i have an employment opportunity for you...
- bobbknight, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2Trust me if the weatherman tells me that theres a cat 5 hurricane coming at me I will take him at his word, conversely if someone from the UN tells me it going to be a bad season I'll gona get out the salt.
- SinNickel, on 12/03/2007, -3/+5Crap...so you mean the lazy SMF's in New Orleans won't leave when the next one comes either? Damn you forecasters...
- KyleRayner, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Well thats easy. Tomorrow will always be a 50% chance of rain. It might rain, and it might not.
- DucoNihilum, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2And no mater the outcome- global warming is at fault!
- mcgarry83, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Those pesky storms! Never quit fast enough for ol' Gylenhal and the gang.
- gotamd, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2I blame Global Warming.
- thcobbs, on 12/03/2007, -1/+3No, that was rendition wasn't it?
- BigManOnCampus, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2"Katrina wasn't a particularly powerful hurricane."
It was Cat 4 when it hit land. That's powerful.
"It was the incompetent government's fault on that."
I agree and disagree. I agree the local and federal governments weren't well organized in terms of relief. I disagree that it was the government's fault. The government is not here to ensure that you as a citizen survive a holocaust. They are here to defend against invaders and regulate law and order. They are not and should never be a nanny that nursemaids citizens who refuse to prepare themselves for "acts of god".
"The concept is that, as a whole, the weather will changes in drastic ways we can't predict, but most likely it will be more storms overall."
Oh me, oh my, So global warming will result in more uncertainty??? Why don't you just predict that the sun will rise tomorrow. It would be just as meaningful. Basic thermodynamics dictates that entropy will increase, regardless of what you started with. So forgive me if this concept doesn't sound utterly vacuous of meaning.
"We do have increasingly worse and bizarre weather every year and the polar ice caps are melting at a more and more alarming rate."
You mean a complex system like the earth's climate isn't steady and predictable?? wow, that's just amazing, tell us more! - Dingo128, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2I agree, but if you watch the news every weather person has brought up global warming for the cause of whatever weather pattern is going on in that viewer's specific area.
The computer models that are used in weather forecasting, are similar to computer models predicting global warming and previous global temperature changes. - oldhick, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Nice try but no dice.
- greatgazoo, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Katrina was only a marginal cat 4 when it hit.
- Globehugger, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1Actually the bad news is that the media and Mr. Gore will never spend much time talking about how inaccurate the predictions are, especially since they cast doubts on the dogma of global warming.
- TuxedoMax, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1I'd say anyone predicting more than 2007 hurricanes for one year is pushing things. /s
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