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- wendelgee2, on 10/28/2009, -2/+14worst. comments. ever.
Digg has really gone down the crapper. - missinglink, on 10/28/2009, -2/+13Glaciers are my favorite type of water. They are just awesome. They violently shape the land, operate like an ultra-slow moving liquid and have all sorts of cool physical properties at varying depths and pressures.
- archiesteel, on 10/28/2009, -0/+8Only parts of the Antarctic ice sheet are growing. Overall, it is still shrinking.
- TrevorBradley, on 10/28/2009, -0/+5Finally a post we can agree on. Being from mountainous British Columbia, Canada, glaciers are awesome!
- danlowlite, on 10/28/2009, -1/+6I'd agree. I have a long-standing fascination with the arctic, and really would like to visit Greenland one day. But, I really don't want to be one of those eco-tourists. Though, I guess that's what I'd be...Everyone I know thinks I'm insane, "It's too cold; all that ice" and so on. While I respect the fact that there you could quickly die if you were caught outside in the cold, I think that risk would be worth it.
- LokitheComplex, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4They are growing on what time scale? Year? Decade? Century?
- archiesteel, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3jonnyboy1544: it's not about the area, it's about the thickness. The fact that so many ice shelves have broken off Antarctica in the last 15 years is a good indication that the ice sheet has grown thinner.
Some more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_shelf
http://www.cpom.org/research/Fluxes-Ant.htm
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008 ... - SamuraiGhost, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3I don't think shooting at glaciers is going to help.
- junkneo, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Devastating effects of warmer planet, but i don't just blame the fossil fuel use, but others in addition - deforestation, waste heat from human comforts, lower atmosphere weather changes induced by direction of transportation vehicles, etc.
- charlietuna, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2This morning I believe a pile of snow built up to TWICE its height. It's a fact, right over by the tool shed.
- stuffradio, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Here here! BC represent!
- wendelgee2, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2"you're"
not "your" - clvngodess, on 10/28/2009, -1/+3FTA: The close-up image allows a clear view of both snouts’ rough surfaces. While ice at the bottom of a glacier generally flows smoothly, the ice overhead is often brittle. As a result, the glacier’s movement causes ruptures on the ice surface, which can be exacerbated by surface melting. Foehn winds—warm, dry, down-slope winds—may contribute to glacier melt, and also keep the underlying valley mostly dry. The shallow, blue-green water in the valley bottom is likely laced with rock flour left over from earlier glacial grinding of Greenland’s rocks.
- xXSheepyXx, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Let the graveyard commence
- hereticoftruth, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Yes, Antarctic ice is growing because warmer air also holds more water vapor. If the air rises above the temperature of the ice, then it will melt the ice as it has around the edges.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1Oh, let's get rid of "water vapor" then.
"Covering up the absorption spectra..." I think it's the Scientists who look into these details. Water vapor both traps and reflects heat depending on where you find the clouds and the particle size .
Whether or not you find an Environmentalist who exaggerates "and shoots self in foot" -- it isn't going to protect you from the Eco Disaster that is already plaguing island nations and Australia. With all the Demagoguery from the profiting polluters, we will spend years examining every last flaw of Green Peace while nothing is done.
Which is the intent. Right? - hereticoftruth, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1Thanks. I use most of my information from environmentalists so they cannot say my sources are suspect. Apparently they lied on this one. But no matter. It still is albedo that causes most of the increase in solar energy absorption and most of the increase has occurred in the northern hemisphere. Now I realize the global warming effect is still real but a bit more localized than I was led to believe. But I will check this out further in case this isn't right.
- 2Six119, on 10/28/2009, -2/+3THEY'RE COMING RIGHT FOR US!
- jonnyboy1544, on 10/29/2009, -1/+2http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-ic ...
- musntSurfatWork, on 10/28/2009, -4/+5You know what's truly amazing? Talking relatively on a smaller scale, I'm sure most of you already know this,
when I put some ice cubes into a bowl, or a glass, and set the bowl anywhere in the house, where the ambient temperature is warmer than the exposed ice, it melts in time. HOW AMAZING IS THAT? - archiesteel, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1Again, jonnyboy, this doesn't take into account the *thickness* of the ice cover.
- hereticoftruth, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2It is true BIG OIL HAS their own selfish reasons to make more profit. But environmentalists are just shooting themselves in the foot by pursuing "solutions" that don't address the real problem, Global warming. CO2 comes in a distant second to water vapor as a greenhouse gas which also comes in a distant third to surface solar energy absorption. The real solution is to plant more forests and trees. The environmentalists did a good job of covering up their own statistics of the absorption spectra of our atmosphere and its components since the beginning of this year but I have another approach that will work and I will document their public deception this time. This is important because if they don't do the right thing it is and will be worse than doing nothing at all.
- hereticoftruth, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1The intent is to get people to plant more forests and grasslands to change the albedo of the Earth, cause the absorption of solar energy to be channeled into chemical energy instead of heat, and to reduce the CO2 level in the atmosphere in the most efficient manner. Most environmental solutions are the equivalent of someone buying an air conditioner, setting it in the middle of the room and turning it on. It makes the problem worse, not better. Follow the real energy path to find the real solution. Don't get stuck following the majority just because it's popular. Think for yourself.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2As it is falling off the landmass, it is spreading out -- appearing to people not following the SCIENTISTS as if it is growing.
Stop thinking you came up with something the scientists haven't thought of. - Mujokan, on 10/28/2009, -0/+1http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
- jp2535, on 10/28/2009, -0/+1oh no gravity strikes again..........dam ice always flowing to the lowest point
- hereticoftruth, on 10/28/2009, -1/+1When can you see them on Google Earth? Also, why did Google Earth block out those islands south of New Zealand that used to be so clear you could see the bushes on it to the point you cannot see anything at all? I thought that was crass and controlling!
- jp2535, on 10/28/2009, -1/+1normal glacial flow........nothing else
- FullClip, on 10/28/2009, -5/+5Damn global warming!!!!!!!!!
- everfresh59, on 10/28/2009, -2/+2Inevitability....
- jonnyboy1544, on 10/29/2009, -1/+1http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-ic ...
- dhartin, on 10/29/2009, -1/+1***** grammar Nazi's, you seem like an intelligent human being, with your strong knowledge of conjunctions, may be you could employ some phonics and decipher my message, if you couldn't understand it then YOU'RE just a moron. I thought this was a digg thread, not a lit paper
- DigitalBenjamin, on 10/28/2009, -14/+13But wait... I thought Al Gore told us that the glaciers were all receding? He's a fibber!
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/28/2009, -3/+2The Anti-Global warming websites are slicker, and the arguments better formed. But if you've been paying attention since the Corporations got their George Bush in power in 2000 -- they all started from the same rotten roots.
I am sick to death of hearing the bleating sounds of the deniers who don't bring a real discussion to the table. You haven't re-evaluated your faith-based belief since it started from a complete lie. The new talking point is that Humans didn't cause it, and a newer one than that is saying "hey, maybe it's good for us."
I think everyone forgot the "Mars is warming -- the Sun gives us heat stoopid" argument of a year ago. Mars has it's very own orbit, and seasons, the Sun is actually in a lower output range at the moment -- yet the fluctuation is relatively small.
The Anti-Global warming propaganda, seems to depend on the same tactic of "moving the goal post" as the Iraq war. We had half a dozen excuses for this crime and in the end, it's about the OIL. And we have lot's of clever spins on the data, without a real understanding of the science (so it fools the fools), and in the end, it's about the OIL. The human race is going to kill itself off, because there are so many gaming the system and leaching off it by lying. No need to clean a smoke stack -- hire a pundit to move an army of idiots to confuse the debate.
Can we get through a discussion without these fools corrupting it? - FullClip, on 10/28/2009, -10/+8Shhhhhhh!!! It would be inconvenient (to his bank account) if we really new the truth.
- jonnyboy1544, on 10/28/2009, -3/+1http://www.climate-skeptic.com/photos/uncategorize ...
- pogdish, on 10/28/2009, -2/+0google and nasa should have a spying contest with their nifty satellites.
top right of first pic: glacier castle with twin spires - jonnyboy1544, on 10/28/2009, -4/+2http://www.climate-skeptic.com/photos/uncategorize ...
You be the judge... to me, it looks like it's more than it has been. - jonnyboy1544, on 10/28/2009, -12/+9Just a reminder that Greenland's glaciers account for 11% of our land ice (the ice that makes oceans rise if melted). Antarctica accounts for 88%... that it's ice levels are growing. :)
- Turious, on 10/28/2009, -4/+1Greenland isn't very green, it seems.
- elcalrissian, on 10/28/2009, -6/+1There is no 'before' picture. Am I to believe global warming is real because the glacier ends in a valley?
Looking at the patterns of the soil, there apperas to be a long geologic history of these glaciers expanding and receeding. But Im not really a geologist, I just dont believe unsubstantiated theories.
I know as much as the best scientists about global warming, it could be our fault, and it may not be. - dhartin, on 10/28/2009, -11/+6OMG, WERE ALL GONNA DIE, Where's Al Gore, hold me Al... oh wait... this isnt about global warming? Oh, never mind.
- Misanthropology, on 10/28/2009, -9/+3ManBearPig Strikes again!
I'm Super Cereal, You Guys!! - diggopolous, on 10/28/2009, -8/+2Melting ice in GREENland? Truff in advertising.
- dhartin, on 10/28/2009, -11/+2maybe you make a better one and quit bitching, no? maybe your the crap
- therightscoop, on 10/28/2009, -20/+11Global Warming is a Hoax.
- perfecxion, on 10/28/2009, -14/+4Global Warming strikes again.
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