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- Callidus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0UaHgWk88
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Probably should have replied here first instead of posting down there, oh well. - Gerolsteiner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13No metal in the microwave and no glass in the freezer. With these rules in mind, you can conquer any foe.
- HardJeans, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14This digg is lacking without video. I mean comeon, this is the broadband age....I need the info.
+ I'm to lazy to do this myself at this time of the night. - Afraithe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Found one video showing it very clearly with just water.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V3R4VAdCbTg - tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You shouldn't freeze your bawls dude... It can't be good for them.
- Callidus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0UaHgWk88
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Yay YouTube - greyfade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3that's why the bawls is blue.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That was Corona in the video. It wasn't a waste of it and it isn't good beer.
I would question whether it can even be considered beer at all. It's more like something I piss out a week after drinking a Guinness. - apache2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3this trick works with soda too
- imafish2002, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you gotta admit its a bit of a downer when your beer freezes after trying too be a smart ass and cooling it quickly in the freezer :P
- arcele, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Am I the only one that's surprised that those bottles aren't shattering once the beer freezes?
- slasherx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is nothing new. If you're any serious kind of drinker you would have already seen this before when freezing your beer to get it to ultra-coldness quickly.
- muklin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There is absolutely no way that this effect could cause the froth to freeze. By the way.
This story reminds me of a situation that occured in Siberia. There was a traveller who was taken for a Siberian picnic. The guide set up the fire and placed a bottle of Vodka by it to warm up to a drinkable temperature. He then capped the bottle and poured out nips for everyone to warm up before eating (the Vodka was still very chilly fresh, but alcohol has a warming effect on the body.) The traveller thought this was a pretty nice day so he took some friends to the same spot a few days later, and expertly set up the fire and place his own bottle of Vodka to rise to drinking temperatue. He then poured out the nips, and led the way knocking his back in one gulp, then fell over dead. The well below freezing Vodka froze the mans throath and oesophaegus, and then stopped his heart.
What he had not noticed the last time, was that the guide had turned the bottle to warm it evenly. Siberian Vodka has such a high alcohol content that it freezes well below zero degrees (because ethanol has a lower freezing point.) When you get VERY cold Vodka it turns into a sludge like mix that slows convection, (hence you must turn the bottle. Contact of Any liquid at -ve 40 degrees or less with the inner passages of the oesophaegus will not be pleasant!!
When in Rome, do as the romans, but make sure you do it EXACLTY the same. - Sesse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4When the can is opened, the pressure decreases and so does the freezing point of beer. Fun to watch the first time but not really interesting. What's the big deal?
- slasherx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh ya. That's exactly how I felt once I tried to drink it and noticed it was frozen! :P
- daeyeth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4why would you digg him down? he just gave you what you asked for
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why would the glass break? The bottle has been opened and there's no great pressure on the glass.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You meant 4C... and yes, since it's already cold the water would not be expanding as much as if it had to cool from over 4C. I was going to mention that, but the fact that it's open basically makes that point moot (I think anyway, I could be wrong).
- wunch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This works with any carbonated beverage. I've found that it actually works best with plain old seltzer water, because it has less dissolved solute than sodas or beer to depress the freezing point. It also works with plain bottled water (there are videos on the net of this), but is harder to achieve.
I do this as a demo in my chemistry classes to show the effect of supercooling, and that it requires nucleation sites in order for the phase change to occur. I agree with satanatnmtedu below that this is the much better explanation. It is essentially the opposite of superheating a glass of water in the microwave (http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave.asp).
It's relatively easy to prove that the ideal gas law explanation is incorrect. According to that explanation, the change in pressure lowers the temp of a near-freezing liquid to below freezing. However, this phenomenon will not occur if you just bathe the beer in an ice water bath (which is 0 degC, and yes I've tried it). You must cool it to below zero for this to work, by either using a freezer or a salt-ice-water bath. This strongly suggests that supercooling with a lack of nucleation sites is the better explanation. - Cowboy5995, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1", you give the opened bottle a sharp rap."
Lol I love that when that happens. "Hey dude hold out your beer I want to see if I can make if freeze. *Clank* watch the beer go every where and watch the person flip. - black_wolf_0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I do this with Bawls every once in a while
- PackerX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There may be something to the CO2 bubbles in beer... I honestly don't know. But I know the same thing can happen with bottled water, which is not carbonated.
- Devon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I believe this has to do with freezing point depressing.
The dissolved particles in water lower the freezing point. (This is why you put salt on ice during the winter to melt the ice.) When you open the bottle, the concentration of dissolved CO2 changes because the bottle has been opened/depressurized. The loss of pressure causes CO2 that has been forced into to solution to escape from the solution (usually forming bubbles along the side of the glass), lowering the concentration and raising the freezing point. The temperature now being less than the freezing point and the water freezes.
As noted vibration can also knock dissolved gasses out of solution causing the water to freeze although it usually takes a more dramatic loss of concentration to really freeze the drink.
This can happen to noncarbonated stuff too because it is underpressure in containers too. The release of pressure, again, shifts the equlibrium of the dissolved gasses/stuff raising the freezing point and freezing the solution. - slapshot24, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The article disagrees. Not sure which is correct.
>>The beer is below the freezing temperature, but there is not enough contamination for the ice to form. The bubbles of carbon dioxide released when the bottle is hit act as nuclei for ice crystal growth in the supercooled beer. Same thing happens in reverse when water is microwaved in a smooth container but won't boil until hit. - sinooka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nice explanation.. would lagers or ales be better for trying this? I'm guessing lagers because of their tendency to be higher in carbonation.
ftw - Devon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Greater change in concentration would create a greater change in freezing point... therefore you have a wider zone of temperatures in which this might occur?
Meh dunno. - SPLASTiK, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Happens at parties occasionally here in Alaska when someone leaves the beer outside in the winter too long to chill at parties.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21) Use the ideal gas law for an estimate, since gases are not liquids (PV=nRT).
2) The nucleation explanation makes the most sense to this Materials Scientist. The beer is supercooled and once a nucleation site exists, then the fluid will freeze.
3) Another point to consider is that beer is a mixture of water and alcohol. The alcohol will depress the freezing point of the solution by a few degrees. - arcele, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I may have slept through most of high school, but I'm pretty sure that liquid expands when frozen into a solid.
- Xyleene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The beer turns into slush.. not hard as a rock.. that would explain why the bottle dosen't break..
And it works with probably any beverage, not just carbonated ones. We had a case of water in our garage one winter that this happened to consistently. - PackerX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Pretty much what he said.
Water expands when it freezes. If you prevent it from expanding, it cannot freeze without reaching a higher temperature. When you open the beer (or a bottle of water, which I find far more fascinating to watch), nothing is preventing expansion and you get ice.
The reverse is how ice-skates work. You compress the ice, turning a thin layer back to liquid water, which allows you to skate. - greyfade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1you probably did sleep through it: water expands as it approaches 4F. most everything else contracts. since beer is mostly (85% or more) water, that expands only a little while the alcohol and CO2 (and certain other compounds) compress to make up for it. it helps, too, that most bottled beer is vacuum-sealed, giving everything a direction to go, should it expand.
- everywhereasign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We used to do this with Pocari Sweat all the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocari_Sweat
The trick is to get it out of the freezer before it freezes solid. It used to be a half hour in our freezer. Then we would hit the plastic bottle against a table and watch the crystals grow. You'd be left with a slushy bottle of Pocari. - wunch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@TheBigJ
Carbonated beverages are indeed supersaturated with CO2, but that has nothing to do with this phenomenon. I think the word you are looking for is supercooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercooling
Just because you found a word on Wikipedia doesn't mean you found the correct answer to your question. :/ - Afraithe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I know there was a video before that showed water in a clear bottle freezing instantly, some duded had an old bottle of water in his cold garage and discovered this when he moved it, then made the video repeating it, if i remember correct.
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- tacoxl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/explan2.html#Pmelt
- TheBigJ149, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Here "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersaturation" is an article on supersaturated solutions which is what the beer is when you lower the temperature far enough.
Wikipedia FTW! - ohbrilliance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It's actually a pretty nice effect. Open a near-frozen beer, pour into a glass and get a froth that freezes during pouring. No need for a video, just drink!
- sabertooth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3My roommate tried the same experiment, except the beer EXPLODED in the freezer instead. When I opened the freezer, there was only a frozen mass of beer, with no bottle, since it was now in shards everywhere....
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2No, for those of us who have done it before, this is a welcome explanation.
- jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1exactly...not really a big deal.
the fridge at my last employer was set at such a temp that that water bottles would freeze when you took them out.
being that most beer contains a high amount of water...WOW. - diggerdong, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@tito13kfm
lol, best comment yet. - marcan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I can confirm this happens, I've seen it with water bottles in a minifridge (set to colder than it should be). I took one out, and when I opened it a big chunk of ice formed inside (there was still a layer of liquid water around it, and it could rotate. I'd say 80% of the volume inside froze)
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