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- ScottMcIntyre, on 06/10/2009, -3/+37I'd say it's a 'ruff' estimation...
- Shadowhawk109, on 06/10/2009, -2/+28Fa--SQUIRREL
- nahsrocketeer75, on 06/10/2009, -1/+17"Rorry Reorge"
- blackhole37, on 06/10/2009, -2/+18Fact.
Proof: Look Who's Talking Now - dirtmonkey, on 06/10/2009, -0/+15This article is poorly devised...talk like speak english? Or just communicate? My husky can talk to me. Not words per se, but she still communicates to me vocally and through body language. When she wants to go out she comes right up to me and howls. If she wants to be pet she paws at my hand.
Isn't this how humans would communicate without the ability to form complex vocal tones, or write? - michelsonmorley, on 06/10/2009, -1/+15My dog tells me to burn things.
- ethanator1088, on 06/10/2009, -0/+12Fact. They have no idea what they are saying, but fact.
- slicksoul999, on 06/10/2009, -1/+12Caesar from The Dog Whisper can communicate with them, so must be true.
- InfiniteNothing, on 06/10/2009, -0/+10Aren't we all just imitating other people when we're talking?
- nepidae, on 06/10/2009, -0/+9To some extent yes, however we can figure out the meaning of words we haven't heard before, or even make up fake words that sound cromulent. I think that is more than imitation.
- smashblu, on 06/10/2009, -0/+9I am the dog weespurer.
- bstockwell, on 06/10/2009, -0/+9My dog talks to me, but the sound comes out of my mouth. He has a really dopey sounding voice and he just says he wants his belly rubbed a lot.
- FaithclubDotNet, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7On the Internet no one knows you're a dog.
- BaphClass, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6Somebody's outside! Somebody's outside! Hey! Hey! You hear me?! Somebody's outside! Somebody's outside! Hey! Somebod- WHAT WAS THAT?! Let's wrestle! Hey! Hey! Let's wrestl- THAT NOISE AG- Somebody's outside!
- dafragsta, on 06/10/2009, -0/+5Agreed, but I bet they think "This is an affectionate playful behavior and this person will identify it as such." They don't have the words for it, but they no doubt have the emotions for it. That's all I think the dog is trying to convey when he does that. It's just something that he know will be acknowledged, so it is communication. Dogs have amazing vocabularies based on our words. My dogs know numerous words and can pick objects out of a pile by name.
They have the mental capacity for vocabulary, but they don't quite have the brain power to put the coordination of that together with their vocal articulation and make a good relationship between the two. If you think about it, your thoughts probably have a different pace and tone than your conversational voice. Some people are elegant writers but are sometimes derailed and don't get their thoughts together when they speak. They are two entirely different ways of thinking that just happen to be related. For all we know, a dog could be making sentences in his head with words you taught him, but he just can't put it together. - dOOBiEx213, on 06/10/2009, -1/+6Before I read the article: FICTION... or else the headline would've read: "BREAKING: DOGS CAN TALK"
- h3lx, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3I've got a fat orange dog named Tubby that can say "hungry" better than most deaf people.
- specialK16, on 06/10/2009, -1/+4Yeah, it kinda gives me a bone-r.
- jaymzdean, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3"my balls taste good"
I don't think that's what he's thinking.
"that feels good and keeps me to some degree of clean"
But they're not eating something. - whimmel, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3My dog learned the meaning to several words.. cookie, pizza guy, go for a ride, etc. But she could only speak one: "OUT-SIDE!"
After a few accidents where I would then pick her up and yell OUT-SIDE as I took her out, she learned to say it in her own way. She then would shriek "BAH-ROWRRrr" with the same tone and cadence that I used when I was yelling at her. I rewarded her by immediately taking her out and it stuck.
So yeah, my dog could "talk" - grantmoore3d, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3I dunno if I want my dog to talk or not, "Squirrel, Squirrel, Squirrel, my butt itches, mmmmm my balls taste good, mmmm. Is anyone going to eat this poop? Om nom nom. Hey, hey, hey, hey, this is my yard, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey....."
- ashkan101, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3Faith is belief in that which cannot be proven. Moron.
- stephhicks68, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3Blah, blah, blah, blah, "Ginger," blah, blah, blah, blah (kudos to Gary Larson!)
- SoCalDissident, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3Am I the only one who thought of the Far Side Dog translator?
http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/d ...
I'm pretty sure my dog is trying to "talk" in whatever language huskies speak, but I can't get her to try to imitate words; she has her own agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEdEU4aWISI - inactive, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3Tsst.
- dafragsta, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3"The dog's speech is 'the production of vocal sounds which produce illusion in the hearer,' Johnson wrote."
Credibility... out the window.
How would you describe the function of vocal cords? I say if the dog can repeat the behavior and knows it conveys some kind of message to the person he does it for, it's talking. Talking is simply communicating through vocal sounds. Whether or not the word illusion is applied seems irrelevant. How comprehensive the animal understands the words seems a little arbitrary, otherwise you'd have to say children under the age of 3 or 4 aren't really talking, since they probably only have a loose grasp on the concepts they are trying to convey with words. - Minapan, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2intelligent imitation eh? *goes home to teach dogs to say swear words*
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2 Yeah.w'd have to change their vocal chords and their lips so they could speak properly and up their brain power and give them a speech center...Then,maybe they could talk.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2He can talk! He can talk, he can talk, he can talk! I CAN SING!!!
- nepidae, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2To be honest I'm just in it for the cookies too.
- TheMachine1, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2"dogs have limited vocal imitation skills, so these sounds usually need to be shaped by selective attention and social reward."
And how is that different from how people learn to talk? - dorlic, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3No. But dogs can look up!
- EddiePotato, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2It's true that intentional breeding has only been around for a few centuries, but humans have been a major factor in the evolution of dogs for at least 15,000 years.
Since dogs have been valued as "useful" companions throughout most of that time, it stands to reason that any antisocial, exceptionally stupid, or lazy dogs would be shunned by humans more often than not, so those traits have been selected against for much longer than the specific breeds we know today. Just a thought. - Reziarfg, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Well you're a festesio. See? I can make up words too!
- k3rfuffl3, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Ruck roo
- m0rph, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXqrQl4_dc
- BaphClass, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2I love you Dr. Zaius!!
- analogkid01, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Big Al says no they cahn't!
- askantik, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Exactly. I have some sort of husky/malamute mix and she does the same thing. Arctic dogs FTW!
- vsujohn2, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UHKB6nQrzM
- stutimandal, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1When I say, "Tommy", my dog says, "Woof." Obviously he can talk, but I cannot understand.
- geoboy, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Finding out the true answer is going to be a bitch.
- Sheethappens, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1You MUST be old to remeber that line! Good one, though! ;-}
- InfiniteNothing, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Not a huge difference. We're just better trained.
- jaymzdean, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1But you can whisper.
- Krakerjax, on 06/10/2009, -3/+4Really? So my faith in numbers is completely unfounded?
- Abram730, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1(I love you does mean "give me something" in human).. the human language is built around the same associative process.
See feral children.
here is one
If dogs raise a child they bark, growl and lap up their food..
http://cbs2.com/watercooler/dogs.raise.girl.2.1021 ...
people raise animals like they are people and they do this.
cats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVBiRqKj6j8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV71mpbvl-g
dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1We6GX4IM
think humans are the only ones that can use complex language?
--->All it takes is a brain the size of a walnut<---
Alex the African grey parrot was easy to understand and made up words.. He had never seen a red apple, only yellow delicious apples.. he was asked what it was and called it a cherry apple... think off all the associations there.. It's an apple but it's red so it's not like the other apples.. it's color is like a cherry so it must be both... cherry-apple.
This is talking
http://www.snackfeed.com/videos/detail/b8ea12e4-f8 ... - yournightmare, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Why that's not the definition of faith at all. The closest definition of "faith" to what you're saying is: belief in that for which there is no proof. Having no proof for something is extremely different than something that CANNOT be proven.
- kd1s, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Last thing man needs is a talking dog. Imagine this scenario:
You're screwing the girlfriend but the wife doesn't know about it. The dog walks in and here's the conversation:
Dog: "You're getting me a prime rib or else I tell the Mrs that you're boning this chick."
You: "My ass, how'd you like to be locked in the garage for the next eight weeks?"
Dog: "How much you want to bet that I won't be able to tell your wife?"
Any number of scenarios could play out but I won't stand for a talking dog. - Cainxinth, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Fact or Fiction: Scientific American is out of material
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