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- michaelpinto, on 02/16/2009, -0/+22Those poor Neanderthals could never have enjoyed ice cream or pizza! Very sad...
- sonofabiscuit, on 02/16/2009, -8/+26Take that, religious fundamentalists!
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -1/+12first discovery from bone as follows:
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Neanderthals_coul ...
and the recent news is based on the decoded of gnome DNA..
new human race will emerge..so runnnn... - barryiggins, on 02/16/2009, -1/+10 Neanderthal Man has no patience for lactose, and he won't stand for it!
- Dustmuffins, on 02/16/2009, -0/+8But the story has a happy ending! They all died first!
- atomic811, on 02/16/2009, -0/+8Yes bring them back. They should now blend in with most of the population.
- caLt, on 02/16/2009, -1/+9CLONE THEM!
- atomic811, on 02/16/2009, -0/+7Genesis 6:4 (this always creeped me out)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. - Myztry, on 02/16/2009, -4/+10Neanderthal genes still exist in the human population. Since 1984 they've mainly been delegated to the Night club bouncer class because of their stocky build and low intellect...
- garryw, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7I'm lactose intolerant and have 8 wisdom teeth (5th molars!) study me
- FI5HERMAN, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6And where should we run !!!
- ricker2005, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6RTFA. ""We can see the Neanderthal was not able to drink milk, [after] they were weaned," Pääbo said."
Lactose intolerance, even to this day, occurs in many cultures after they stop breast feeding. That doesn't mean they can't be fed breast milk while they are infants. Also, neanderthals aren't a "new species" at this point. We've known about them for a very long time. - atomic811, on 02/16/2009, -1/+7I wonder if the last Neanderthal was lonely.
- Sodas, on 02/16/2009, -0/+5You act as though you support the idea of a creationist debate.
Important sections of DNA they have mapped in that 63% is what they are comparing. Do they have the genetic code to develop a Hyoid bone in the same place as ours? (Allowing them to articulate speech beyond grunts) Things like that.
Were they cognitively capable of understanding language (Yes based on cranial capacity and development of this FOXP2 gene.)
Lactose Intolerance is more common in Asian and African people than Europeans, it does not mean one is more or less related to a Neanderthal because of that particular gene. I drink almost a liter of milk a day!
What they are trying to convey in this article is that by having a blueprint now they can contrast with Humans and Chimpanzees (Knowing full well what Chimps are capable of, some more than others. Take Bonobos for instance versus Gorillas) to see what changes the species went through.
It's having a reference point, nothing more. We -know- Neanderthals were physically quite different from modern humans, some hominid species that looked similar to humans varied in ways such as having a grip that could turn a human hand into pulp with a handshake, or the opposite - tiny stretched out skulls with minimal cranial capacity yet were bipedal.
Some could talk, some couldn't. Some could control fire - some could only make use of tools instead.
By looking at areas of the genome in a Chimpanzee, a Human and a Neanderthal we notice which parts the Neanderthal shared with us that Chimpanzees did not. That's where they are getting their numbers from.
Modern humans are no open-and-shut case either. Look at people like Kim Peek(Absolute 100% Photographic memory for every day of his life and can read a page with each eye, memorizes enormous amounts of data and links them in a very deep articulate way that nobody else is capable of. His brain is MISSING the highway our brain has for each hemisphere but the connections that make up that highway traveled throughout his brain)
Daniel Tammet(Synesthetic Savant) I mean there are countless other examples but these two individuals are on the extreme end of the spectrum of what humans are capable of - and maybe even a glimpse of the future. - chmstar, on 02/16/2009, -0/+5So does anybody know what their chromosome count is anyway? In humans it is now known that we have two less than the other apes because our #2 is a fusion of two others that occurred sometime in the past. The question is when.
- cyberthief, on 02/16/2009, -1/+6they could have saved time and used my ex's dna....
- Witchboy, on 02/16/2009, -0/+5So what, GlobalRoamer? Wikipedia stands up fine against all those tired old arguments. To your point: Print encyclopedias have errors that last for years or decades; at least the one you cited has the potential to get corrected.
- thespiff, on 02/16/2009, -1/+5Digging this one because it is from a reputable source and not the earlier Daily Fail version.
- Qumahlin, on 02/16/2009, -1/+5Then you don't read much unless you are attempting to classify these creatures as non humans. Last time I checked most biblical texts addressed humanity as a whole, not by individual sub species.
Does the bible say that god created ***** Sapien in his image? - lump1, on 02/16/2009, -2/+6OK, let's get that DNA into a human egg already and make it grow! Pay some woman good money (much more than the standard $10,000 for surrogacy) to carry it to term, and then try to raise the baby normally.
What we might find is that the Neanderthals were not really all that dumb, but it would be fascinating to learn about similarities and differences from an actual living person. - Witchboy, on 02/16/2009, -0/+4For some reason, everyone always wants to believe this but almost all the sources I've seen say that, after diverging, there's no evidence of back and forth DNA mixing. In fact, this article says that as well.
- dagaith, on 02/16/2009, -0/+4No, Neanderthals aren't (weren't?) our ancestors. We only share a common ancestor. So, they are more like... older brothers :)
- kent1146, on 02/16/2009, -5/+9You're right.
When God created the earth 4,000 years ago, must have left evidence of other extinct species, like neanderthals and dinosaurs, and gave us the tools to believe that they lived 450,000 to millions of years ago (respectively) just to throw us off.
Very tricky. Or the is trickery the Devil's doing?
/s - theodenking, on 02/16/2009, -0/+4Considering Neanderthals subsisted almost entirely on meat, not mention went extinct 445,000 years before any lactating animals were domesticated by humans, it would be pretty strange if they weren't lactose-intolerant. They might as well have announced that Neanderthals didn't drive Hondas, it would be about as surprising.
</seriousnote> - serif69, on 02/16/2009, -0/+3NO WEEZIN' JUICE!
- LilJimmyNordin, on 02/16/2009, -3/+6Wow. You fail so powerfully that you've actually crippled my sarcasm generators. That's amazing. I mean, I had these things calibrated by Rush Limbaugh and David Spade...
- napsack, on 02/16/2009, -0/+3Please no, do you not know what the cromags are capable of!?
- irvin666, on 02/16/2009, -2/+5Will there be better penis enlargements?
- scoffey, on 02/16/2009, -1/+4it hasn't been verified, but there is conjecture that Neandertals and H sapiens did breed and produce fertile offspring... they almost certainly had sex w/ each other
- ricker2005, on 02/16/2009, -1/+4Brain size is not an accurate indicator of relative intelligence. It's the actual folds of the brain that matter the most.
- Kosh, on 02/16/2009, -0/+3Your last point is incorrect. Those percentiles are perfectly consistent with mathematics.
- wilhoitm, on 02/16/2009, -0/+3So does this mean that we did not inter-breed them out of existence? As some theories suggest.
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -0/+2A whale's brains is definitely a lot larger than a human's. I guess it's the brain/body size ratio.
- max420, on 02/16/2009, -0/+2I wonder if they will ever clone a Neanderthal, Jurassic Park style. Might be interesting to one for real.
- Myztry, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2I was taking a jab at Bouncers (though I nuffed the 1984 reference - Brave New World - sub species)
We don't even know if Neanderthals could talk let alone how intelligent they were. So they had large cranium cavities (brains long gone). Some of the dumbest people I know have huge heads.
It not simply an issue of size, it's an issue of function. Otherwise we'd be measuring IQ's with a tape measure... - hasahugedig, on 02/16/2009, -1/+3forget about Neanderthal man, bring on the Neanderthal women!
but seriously. L2cloneplsthx - Delphium226, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2"but every answer to any and every problem lies in the Bible"
So the Bible says slavery is ok...
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
I'd like to see you try and have slaves in this day and age buddy. - max420, on 02/16/2009, -1/+3clone them, and use our advanced technology to control their brains, so that we can use them as slaves for labour. And because they really wouldn't be human, no one could play the "we are all human" card.
/s - dustinl4m3, on 02/16/2009, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species#Difficulty_of ...
- inactive, on 02/18/2009, -0/+2I like your idea, but it may lead to apocalypse.
Hell, let's do it. - emptyo, on 02/16/2009, -5/+6Don't tell Bush and Palin. Shhhhh!
- gordonj, on 02/17/2009, -0/+1gnome DNA? Awesome!
- Namco, on 02/17/2009, -0/+1One's intellect is determined by a sustained, long-term effort toward learning. Something that hasn't been tried until very recently in our genetic timeline. Maybe if Neanderthals had a full time job and a commute where they could sit down for an hour and read the paper, they would've been much smarter. ;)
- inactive, on 02/16/2009, -0/+1Just look at my profile pic for proof...
- jimminy, on 02/16/2009, -2/+310 PRINT "GROAR MHHH... GRAUH!"
20 GOTO 10 - w3ber, on 02/16/2009, -1/+2RUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!!!!
http://earthfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/b ... - inactive, on 02/16/2009, -1/+2Looking at those 'people' make me sad in a strange kinda way. 30,000 is not a very long time ago in Earth's history. I wanna go back in time and observe them. We had magnificent civilizations 3000 years ago; only 10 times agoer than that, Neantherthals became exticnt. Very intriguing.
- slyzxx, on 02/16/2009, -2/+3i`d hit it.
- robbiedo, on 02/16/2009, -1/+2Big deal...sequencing Neanderthal DNA. It's so easy, even a Caveman could do it.
//Sorry, got nothing.
///Going back to Fark. - jmcenanly, on 02/21/2009, -0/+1Would he be an employee of the park, or an exhibit?
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