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- Antangil, on 03/21/2008, -15/+237It's classic; a movie that rants about how their viewpoint is being suppressed uses armed guards to keep people out with whom they disagree. Ben Stein and his cronies FTL!
- IrisMR, on 03/21/2008, -19/+166Oh. My. God.
It doesn't get much more hilarious than that. Expelled folks? YOU ARE PATHETICALLY FUNNY! Crash and burn with your silly prehistoric nonsense.... Oh wait, you deny prehistory even existed. Nevermind. - wagnerfilm, on 03/21/2008, -8/+134Not just people with whom they disagree, but one of the actual scientists from whom they secured an interview by deliberately misrepresenting themselves and the nature of their film. This whole silly mess is going to collapse under the weight of ridicule before it even gets going. Talk about an epic fail!
- SphinctOr, on 03/21/2008, -25/+129PZ was a victim of a HATE CRIME.
I would press charges and bring shame upon the AMC 14 at the Mall of America, as well as the Producer of the film who asked that PZ be thrown out! My God, PZ had to post from an Apple store! For the love of God, man!
Anonymous, where are you when we need you!?
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TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 2000a
§ 2000a. Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation
(a) Equal access
All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
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Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:
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(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and ...blah blah you get the point.
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Tampa, FL - TobiasTheCommie, on 03/21/2008, -10/+101This is hilarious, and just goes to show that the most fundamentalist Christians have an extreme double standard..
A movie, called expelled, and then they expel one of the scientists they interviewed for the movie, from a screening of the movie...
How two faced can you be..
How stupid can you be.. - BionicWhippet, on 03/21/2008, -9/+94Very funny. Looking forward to hearing what Dawkins thought of the film.
- brstilson, on 03/21/2008, -5/+77I lol at people who think Ben Stein is some sort of academic or scientist because he wears thick glasses and a bow tie and speaks with a boring, monotone voice. The guy is a right-wing nutjob. He was Nixon's speechwriter for goodness sake.
- iamondigghaha, on 03/21/2008, -7/+75Imagine how sad Richard Dawkins must have felt. :(
- muldoon1987, on 03/21/2008, -11/+76Dawkins pwns Ben Stein!
- geniescott, on 03/21/2008, -2/+44Actually, Kinseyincanada, we know quite a bit about this movie, from people who were accidently let in, and who wrote about it. Read the reviews at www.expelledexposed.com. More to come.
Eugenie (one of the bad guys in the movie) - Chaostician, on 03/21/2008, -7/+48Dawkins actually appeared at the University of Texas, my university, yesterday, and I was fortunate enough to see him. He actually mentioned this movie, saying he was duped into appearing in it and that he was given no indication that the movie was unfriendly to science. He also mentioned that anyone allowed to see it thus far has had to sign a non discloser agreement, so no one can mention anything about the film. I move that we boycott this movie and refuse to contribute any money via ticket sales to their organization.
I'm all for torrenting it though for the sake of ridicule - slave1, on 03/21/2008, -7/+46"bury me to let me know I've proved my point"?
Meh, Christians are such suicidal freaks. - DarwinsBeagle, on 03/21/2008, -12/+49It's been two hours since I read PZ's blog and I still can't stop laughing. If there is a god, the dude's an Athiest for sure! The Irony!! It hurts!!
- StopPre, on 03/21/2008, -7/+44This is too good to be true!
- brstilson, on 03/21/2008, -6/+42Attention Ben Stein and all the "Expelled" folks:
No matter how hard to try to present ID as science, at the end of the day you are still advocating that bronze-age goat herders knew more about the universe than all of the Biologists, Geologists, Geneticists, Astronomers and Archaeologists in the modern world today. - Devilboy666, on 03/21/2008, -0/+34British people don't feel sad - they feel indignant!
- Shoebox639, on 03/21/2008, -7/+40Hey, the Flying Spaghetti Monster acts in mysterious ways.
no wait... or was it Thor? - d0onut, on 03/21/2008, -7/+38"How stupid can you be.." Umm, they're creationists.
- bigbadgoat, on 03/21/2008, -5/+34So, a movie intentionally misleads its audience by presenting arguments that have already proven to be incorrect. It throws out abstract, branched theories about the start of mankind as the accepted norm when they have nothing to do with evolution. It never once offers any definition of what exactly is Intelligent Design or Evolution or offers any evidence that actually supports that ID is even remotely plausible, and you expect people to strike it down because they're anti-christian?
Sorry sir, they're just pro-intellect, pro-logic, and pro-reason. - NSResponder, on 03/21/2008, -4/+33Well, that makes sense. Creationism is certainly trivial.
-jcr - PrimateInRepose, on 03/21/2008, -4/+33Too bad. I understand its a great comedy, and now he will only see it in video
- motbob, on 03/21/2008, -6/+34That's like keeping Draco Malfoy out of heaven, but letting Hitler slip past.
- OneLess, on 03/21/2008, -2/+29"This guy" is a professor at a respected university...I'm sure he has a history of going to movie premieres and causing uproars. I bet he brings small children to use as seat cushions as well.
Someone sure does need to check their facts, but it's not Antanqil or tulipdog. - Fordi, on 03/21/2008, -5/+32Holy *****. Did not know that Ben Stein was a ***** creationist. Need to make a quick internal adjustment.
People.Stein.Ben.respect*=0.01; - scrambled, on 03/21/2008, -13/+38This may be the greatest thing I have read all year. Could Creationists get any dumber?
- brstilson, on 03/21/2008, -1/+25I also forgot to mention that it seems Stein is presenting himself as a scientist in this movie, a "rebel" scientist of sorts. It'd be like me making a movie and playing a "rebel" mathematician that insists 3+3 equals 7 because 6 is ungodly.
- jstone, on 03/21/2008, -1/+24"they are simply trying to make people think about it as an theory in a scientific method."
Well, there's a big problem with that: ID isn't actually scientific. The Discovery Institute's claims are impossible to scientifically verify, so they don't attempt to do so. Instead, the DI has come up with a few arguments that sound good to the general population, though actual evolutionary theorists can easily disprove them. They then present these arguments to average people, and more or less state that "evolution has a hard time explaining this and this, so therefore you have to give equal weight to our mythology." That method of 'reasoning' is absolutely not accepted by the scientific method; an opposing theory having holes lends absolutely no credibility to your own. - Aerlinger, on 03/21/2008, -3/+26There's actually a bit of a background story. PZ Meyers was actually featured in the movie which he, like Richard Dawkins, was lied to by the interviewers who claimed it was for a documentary about the controversy between science and and religion. Not some ID propaganda film. Anyhow, read Meyer's post from a few months ago:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/08/im_gonn ... - Chainheart, on 03/21/2008, -5/+28Evolution doesn't say suggest that we came from apes a protoplasm - the archeology and genes do. Evolution merely attempts to explain how. Before you attempt to contrive your polemics, educate what you are preaching on. Furthermore, you do not understand that science does not care what human intuition says about a particular hypothesis. Your intuition tells you that evolution sounds ridiculous and unworthy of belief while science examines each claim fairly and asks for evidence.
What are the "evolutionists" afraid of? Nothing I suppose, your ilk are the ones making completely misinformed movies laden with paranoia and straw man arguments behind the facade of victimization. - Nullifidian1859, on 03/21/2008, -1/+24If the excuse is that Dr. Myers wasn't invited, then who's the bright spark who invited Richard Dawkins, who was allowed in?
- Phyraxus, on 03/21/2008, -1/+22If you actually read the god delusion, you'd notice that he never calls anyone stupid outright. Delusional, ignorant and/or wicked, yes, but not stupid.
And, if you did read it, compared to the bible, his tone is much more jovial than that of the horrendous atrocities that occur in the bible.
And, I'm sure if you weren't ignorant, you'd know that Richard Dawkins does contribute to science and he is attempting to utterly destroy the position that the religious zealots take against science, because they are the roadblock to progress. - ICSU, on 03/21/2008, -4/+25Oh. My. Science.
- Owned1Up, on 03/21/2008, -8/+28we're no strangers to love....
- OneLess, on 03/21/2008, -3/+23If they weren't such massive hypocrites, PZ could have used their own arguments against them.
"I can't enter the theater? I beg to differ, that's only a theory!" - 22magnum, on 03/21/2008, -5/+25actually i buried you because your an idiot...
- bmorlok, on 03/21/2008, -2/+21There are segregration laws that extend past public property and into businesses as well ;-)
- villageatheist, on 03/21/2008, -5/+24you know, i thought i was going to resist writing something demeaning but then i clicked on your profile and your favorite story is: "more proof that barack obama is a racist", at which point i realized that YOU ARE DESTROYING AMERICA.....GET A GODDAMN EDUCATION
- Bhima, on 03/21/2008, -2/+20his latest gig is promoting christian creationism
- lougoose, on 03/21/2008, -3/+21I'm not sure if the theater is technically considered public property.
- OneHine, on 03/21/2008, -1/+19An additional level of irony: creationists believe that scientists are arrogant God-haters for relying on evidence and logic while they're humble servants for good for believing that God made the entire universe just for them.
- Owwmykneecap, on 03/21/2008, -2/+19Nice username, messiah boy.
- OneHine, on 03/21/2008, -2/+19"...it saddens me to see the immaturity, anger, and hate the constantly occurs on BOTH sides of this futile argument."
Both sides? Excuse me, but when was the last time you saw scientists try to get an anti-scientific mythology taught in science classes? When was the last time you saw scientists dishonestly equate their opponents to Nazis? When was the last time you saw scientists declare that anyone who disagreed with them deserved to be tortured?
I know it's popular to declare that scientists are no better than fundamentalists and that the truth is "somewhere in the middle", but it's pure, unadulterated *****. - Chainheart, on 03/21/2008, -6/+23It's going to be terrible. I expect nothing less than condescending *****, copious amounts of straw men arguments, and self-victimization/pity. ***** Ben Stein
- adam1185, on 03/21/2008, -1/+17woops, got cut off:
http://tinyurl.com/3ans3c - bigbadgoat, on 03/21/2008, -3/+19He's not a philosopher.
He simply requires proof to believe something to be true. - geniescott, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16Yes, this is my account. Nice to meet you!
Eugenie (Genie) - ncairns, on 03/21/2008, -1/+15"...tantamount to a court jester standing in the middle of the road to progress. "
'The Selfish Gene' is one of the single most important, brilliant texts on evolutionary biology ever written, arguably second only to Darwin's own. Speaking as someone who has worked (to varying extents) with people like Marvin Minsky and Noam Chomsky, Dawkins may well be the most intelligent person I have ever met.
And you are? - IrisMR, on 03/21/2008, -2/+16And yet... IT IS! Aaah, I laughed so hard I don't know how I'll be able to sleep now. Laughter will keep me awake!
- yakski, on 03/21/2008, -3/+17You have got to be kidding... compared to all the self professed God knowers out there/preachers that do not know anything about science, religion or the bible, Dawkins is a saint.
- Kregg17, on 03/21/2008, -4/+17Remember yesterday when you asked me the definition of irony was?
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