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Evolution vs. Creation debate
puretalkforum.com — Some say that man evolved from single-celled organisms. Others believe that we were rather created by a higher power, God. Evolutionists commonly argue that we couldn ’t have been created for a number of reasons. Creationists also have some great arguments to counter them. Were we created by God? Or did we evolve over time?
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- roncote77, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0(30) The Earth’s Formation-Creation Evolution-and the contradictions
The earth’s formation has two hypotheses, one by Creationists, the other by evolutionists. Each contradicts the other. Each is far removed from the other and no plausible means has been found to reconcile the two. One must assume that one has to be totally false.
Taken from the popular textbook used extensively in high schools across the nation, Biology, co-authored by Miller/Levine offers the following:
The formation of the earth is attributed to a collision with a large planet that “produced enough heat to melt the entire globe” and “radioactive decay generated enough heat to convert Earth’s interior into molten rock”.. In addition, “Earth’s early atmosphere probably contained hydrogen cyanide, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen, hydrogen sulfide and water”. It further states,” Had you been there, a few deep breaths would have killed you!” (p 423)
According to this text, early earth had an atmosphere that was so hot that everything was melted. Gases were so toxic that life was impossible. But, despite these deadly impediments and through the magic of evolution, life began to emerge anyway as the earth cooled into a solid crust. In the same text, it describes how Pasteur’s experiments proved that the hypothesis of spontaneous generation, also called abiogenesis, life arising from non life, was not possible (p 13). The text goes on to say that ”A stew of organic molecules is a long way from a living cell, and the leap from non life to life is the greatest gap in scientific theories of earth’s early history”. (p 425) Although stated in a matter of fact fashion, the implications are profound. Having no explanation for the impossible gap from life to non life, not even speculation, is crucial and foundational to how life could have even begun under an evolutionary scenario that begins with an impossibility. But these factors are ignored, seemingly inconsequential and no hypothesis is offered for how evolution was able to overcome these insurmountable barriers to life’s formation. The text adds “About 3.8 billion years ago, Earth’s surface cooled enough for water to remain a liquid” (p 424).
In summary, evolutionists state that the earth was so hot that everything was molten. Toxic gases were prevalent, there was no water until 3.8 billion years of cooling and life without life was impossible. Somehow, without explanation or any scientific data, evolution was able to overcome these devastating obstructions to the formation of life. It is amazing that somehow people continue to believe an impossible scenario that defies explanation, logic and science and freely admits in print the impossibility of life’s formation. The chasm of having life come from non life is one that is espoused and admitted by evolutionists. It can not be breached. If life has no way of beginning, how can it evolve? It is a car without an engine, expected to take a journey. The real tragedy is that this nonsensical episode is taught in our public schools.
The book of Genesis explains as follows:
Genesis details what God did on each day, it is perfectly clear. Each day’s events are mentioned as “the evening and the morning”. One evening plus one morning will always equal one 24 hour day.
With God who needed only to “breathe” to bring life into existence, He was establishing the 24 hour day and the seven day week, observed ever since.
Genesis also gives us proof that no long periods of time could have elapsed and still have nurtured life. Consider the sequence of events and the logical and methodical process that "puts all the pieces together".
Initially, He created the heavens and earth without form and void of life. Without form and void, means that no life existed prior to His Creation. No dinosaurs or any other life on a planet could exist on one that was without form and totally barren of any kind of life. One can only speculate how long God allowed this condition to exist. It is possible that He allowed a formless, void mass to remain suspended for an interminable period of time. But for whatever period of time He chose, nothing matters because a formless, void mass could not support life no matter how long it lasted. It would not seem feasible that an omnipotent God would create a formless, lifeless mass unless He planned to develop it further and sooner rather than later. This dispels the erroneous concept of “theistic evolution” It is also strongly implies that, once given form, the earth was covered with water for “ He moved the Spirit of God upon the waters and gave it light, dividing light from the darkness and on the second day He divided the waters, those above and below the firmament”. These waters contained no life because marine life was not created until the fifth day. This substantiates that no life and therefore no fossils could have existed before the first day of creation.
These two scenarios give the same message. According to the evolutionary postulate, it was a toxic, molten earth with no way to bridge the gap from life to nonlife and environmentally incapable of supporting life of any kind, plant or animal. Reinforced with the admission that life is not possible from non life, there is an outright admission by evolutionists that their scenario is thoroughly impossible. We can only conclude that the evolutionary scenario has to be false. Without the possibility of life, there could be no fossils. Because of the hostile and deadly environment as described and taught by the evolutionists, they, themselves, substantiate reasons for the impossibility of their beliefs.
Creationism’s message is that no life could have existed until the creation. “ In the beginning…” a formless and void earth also could not support life until He formed it, separated the land from the waters, provided a sun and moon, vegetation and then animal and human occupation.
There are no other postulates!
(30) The Earth’s Formation-Creation Evolution-and the contradictions
The earth’s formation has two hypotheses, one by Creationists, the other by evolutionists. Each contradicts the other. Each is far removed from the other and no plausible means has been found to reconcile the two. One must assume that one has to be totally false.
Taken from the popular textbook used extensively in high schools across the nation, Biology, co-authored by Miller/Levine offers the following:
The formation of the earth is attributed to a collision with a large planet that “produced enough heat to melt the entire globe” and “radioactive decay generated enough heat to convert Earth’s interior into molten rock”.. In addition, “Earth’s early atmosphere probably contained hydrogen cyanide, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen, hydrogen sulfide and water”. It further states,” Had you been there, a few deep breaths would have killed you!” (p 423)
According to this text, early earth had an atmosphere that was so hot that everything was melted. Gases were so toxic that life was impossible. But, despite these deadly impediments and through the magic of evolution, life began to emerge anyway as the earth cooled into a solid crust. In the same text, it describes how Pasteur’s experiments proved that the hypothesis of spontaneous generation, also called abiogenesis, life arising from non life, was not possible (p 13). The text goes on to say that ”A stew of organic molecules is a long way from a living cell, and the leap from non life to life is the greatest gap in scientific theories of earth’s early history”. (p 425) Although stated in a matter of fact fashion, the implications are profound. Having no explanation for the impossible gap from life to non life, not even speculation, is crucial and foundational to how life could have even begun under an evolutionary scenario that begins with an impossibility. But these factors are ignored, seemingly inconsequential and no hypothesis is offered for how evolution was able to overcome these insurmountable barriers to life’s formation. The text adds “About 3.8 billion years ago, Earth’s surface cooled enough for water to remain a liquid” (p 424).
In summary, evolutionists state that the earth was so hot that everything was molten. Toxic gases were prevalent, there was no water until 3.8 billion years of cooling and life without life was impossible. Somehow, without explanation or any scientific data, evolution was able to overcome these devastating obstructions to the formation of life. It is amazing that somehow people continue to believe an impossible scenario that defies explanation, logic and science and freely admits in print the impossibility of life’s formation. The chasm of having life come from non life is one that is espoused and admitted by evolutionists. It can not be breached. If life has no way of beginning, how can it evolve? It is a car without an engine, expected to take a journey. The real tragedy is that this nonsensical episode is taught in our public schools.
The book of Genesis explains as follows:
Genesis details what God did on each day, it is perfectly clear. Each day’s events are mentioned as “the evening and the morning”. One evening plus one morning will always equal one 24 hour day.
With God who needed only to “breathe” to bring life into existence, He was establishing the 24 hour day and the seven day week, observed ever since.
Genesis also gives us proof that no long periods of time could have elapsed and still have nurtured life. Consider the sequence of events and the logical and methodical process that "puts all the pieces together".
Initially, He created the heavens and earth without form and void of life. Without form and void, means that no life existed prior to His Creation. No dinosaurs or any other life on a planet could exist on one that was without form and totally barren of any kind of life. One can only speculate how long God allowed this condition to exist. It is possible that He allowed a formless, void mass to remain suspended for an interminable period of time. But for whatever period of time He chose, nothing matters because a formless, void mass could not support life no matter how long it lasted. It would not seem feasible that an omnipotent God would create a formless, lifeless mass unless He planned to develop it further and sooner rather than later. This dispels the erroneous concept of “theistic evolution” It is also strongly implies that, once given form, the earth was covered with water for “ He moved the Spirit of God upon the waters and gave it light, dividing light from the darkness and on the second day He divided the waters, those above and below the firmament”. These waters contained no life because marine life was not created until the fifth day. This substantiates that no life and therefore no fossils could have existed before the first day of creation.
These two scenarios give the same message. According to the evolutionary postulate, it was a toxic, molten earth with no way to bridge the gap from life to nonlife and environmentally incapable of supporting life of any kind, plant or animal. Reinforced with the admission that life is not possible from non life, there is an outright admission by evolutionists that their scenario is thoroughly impossible. We can only conclude that the evolutionary scenario has to be false. Without the possibility of life, there could be no fossils. Because of the hostile and deadly environment as described and taught by the evolutionists, they, themselves, substantiate reasons for the impossibility of their beliefs.
Creationism’s message is that no life could have existed until the creation. “ In the beginning…” a formless and void earth also could not support life until He formed it, separated the land from the waters, provided a sun and moon, vegetation and then animal and human occupation.
There are no other postulates!
(30) The Earth’s Formation-Creation Evolution-and the contradictions
The earth’s formation has two hypotheses, one by Creationists, the other by evolutionists. Each contradicts the other. Each is far removed from the other and no plausible means has been found to reconcile the two. One must assume that one has to be totally false.
Taken from the popular textbook used extensively in high schools across the nation, Biology, co-authored by Miller/Levine offers the following:
The formation of the earth is attributed to a collision with a large planet that “produced enough heat to melt the entire globe” and “radioactive decay generated enough heat to convert Earth’s interior into molten rock”.. In addition, “Earth’s early atmosphere probably contained hydrogen cyanide, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen, hydrogen sulfide and water”. It further states,” Had you been there, a few deep breaths would have killed you!” (p 423)
According to this text, early earth had an atmosphere that was so hot that everything was melted. Gases were so toxic that life was impossible. But, despite these deadly impediments and through the magic of evolution, life began to emerge anyway as the earth cooled into a solid crust. In the same text, it describes how Pasteur’s experiments proved that the hypothesis of spontaneous generation, also called abiogenesis, life arising from non life
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