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- pintomp3, on 01/06/2008, -14/+204someone should send copies to mike huckabee and ron paul.
- gbarberi, on 01/06/2008, -9/+82It took 88 pages to explain that!?
- sleeknerve, on 01/06/2008, -13/+73i still cant believe the people that dont believe in evolution. I know some really smart people, but for some reason, they just cant believe in evolution. Its like they've been brainwashed, its sad really.
- chaosium, on 01/06/2008, -7/+65The problem is that they have to respond to every single argument from ignorance that the Creationists throw out.
"HEH WELL EVILUTION IS A LIE BECAUSE IT HAS THESE HOLES" (proceeds to list things long debunked, things never stated, and things that were declared as hoaxes in 1900) - banmaster, on 01/06/2008, -12/+64*****! 88 pages. It cam be summed up VERY simply:
Science and evolution = questions that might never be answered!
Religion and creationism = answers that MUST never be questioned! - SuckMyDigg, on 01/06/2008, -4/+52I get what you're saying, but we both know it would have exactly 0-effect.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -3/+49I'm sorry, but they did not demonstrate how the banana doesn't prove that God exists.
/I'm depressed that I feel obligated to point out that this was a joke. - vervalsing, on 01/06/2008, -7/+46Hopefully this will explain the issue better to people who are still undecided. I know quite a few people who say they don't believe in evolution because they don't understand it, so maybe this will clear things up. I doubt that the hard-core creationists/ID-ers will care, though.
- ITguy102, on 01/06/2008, -3/+34I have downloaded the PDF for anyone to distribute - it was free on their site after registering.
http://rapidshare.com/files/81604916/Science__Evol ... - fowleryo, on 01/06/2008, -0/+31RP himself: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6JyvkjSKMLw
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -10/+3924000 people die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes, 74% of them are children. About 800 million people haven’t enough food
5700 Africans die each day of Aids
We have Cancer, Aids, Polio, Yellow Fever, Influenza, Measles...
67% of the people on this planet who die will supposedly burn in hell fire for all time because they don't believe in the equivelant of Santa Claus
Yeah, some "Intelligent Designer"
Believe whatever you like, but if you want me to believe it then provide evidence or expect mockery and ridicule. Do not expect polite debate. Religion has been given too much liberty to murder and enslave humans while hidden in the garb of "Faith". It and whoever believes it does not deserve to pick the fecal matter from my ass. Politeness is out the door by far by now. I don't give a damn what brand of ***** anyone believes until those beliefs begin to turn into laws and campaign platforms, you've overstepped the boundry separating church from state.
Thats what happening in this country. Don't expect politeness, Nutbars. - inactive, on 01/06/2008, -12/+41Cool booklet, to bad creationists only read one book.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -2/+30Then kindly refrain from trying to get your superstitious drivel in PUBLIC schools. You've already got a place for it, it's called a church.
- Dumbledorito, on 01/06/2008, -5/+30"God did it," while shorter, is a tad scant on details, observable phenomena, testable or predictive theories, or supportive data.
- NeoCortex, on 01/06/2008, -3/+28and don't forget Chuck Norris.
- mdoerr, on 01/06/2008, -4/+28Because denial of science and blind reliance on dogmatic principles opens the door for ignorance in other arenas and the blockage of important scientific progress (particularly stem cell research) and other social issues (abortion, gay marriage) over which religion should have no influence whatsoever.
If religion was more of a "don't tread on me" type of thing, we could deal, but the nature of religion is to "evangelize" other people and either get them to believe you or to get in the way of the way they live their lives i.e. Terri Shiavo or by overturning Roe v. Wade. - merper, on 01/06/2008, -3/+24No you're right. That's pretty much why people are creationist. Sadly, an 88 pg factual report is going to have very little impact on that demographic.
- hayzeus, on 01/06/2008, -2/+23> ....from the same scientists that brought you "global warming" no doubt.
and modern medicine, engineering, and just about everything else that makes your existence significantly less miserable than that of the average serf a millennium ago. - mdoerr, on 01/06/2008, -1/+21What, then, should we decide a leader based upon then? The suits he/she wears?
- theexitwound, on 01/06/2008, -3/+22Faith is belief in spite of evidence. The lack of evidence is just a placeholder until science fills in the gaps. Belief is essential to this process, yes, as scientists work to prove their hypostheses. If they end up barking up the wrong tree, they tweak their hypotheses and try again. It's the belief in their work they're falling behind, not belief in the unknown.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 01/06/2008, -3/+22Unfortunately, most of the people who believe in creationism won't take the time to read this book.
- 0ddity, on 01/06/2008, -1/+19Some idiot might learn something.
- gnatgirl, on 01/06/2008, -3/+21There's a lot wrong with it when said faith in a higher power affects things like policy decisions and science research funding.
- bacon_skoda, on 01/06/2008, -1/+18Bush. Stem Cells.
- Dumbledorito, on 01/06/2008, -1/+18Look, we're sorry that science has that "please show your work" thing, but like proving you know what you're talking about when doing long division, it's necessary.
- GGoldberry, on 01/06/2008, -4/+20Wrong. Evolution is a scientific fact. Facts don't need faith, unlike beliefs.
- Ramble, on 01/06/2008, -0/+16We already do that.
- Zarokima, on 01/06/2008, -2/+18For anyone who doesn't get it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv-Qn1M58I
- Ramble, on 01/06/2008, -4/+19Nothing, some of my very closest friends do, and one who also studies science, and they accept evolution.
- MacEnvy, on 01/06/2008, -0/+15What an interestingly contradictory statement.
- bacon_skoda, on 01/06/2008, -2/+16you are just hoping.
- JoeVet, on 01/06/2008, -1/+15Actually its to keep the subject in the forefront of everyones mind so it will be harder for the fundamentalist fanatics to introduce their religious tenets into science class. Some one reading Digg will realize that there are many people opposed to the perversion of science and will be more likely to lead the opposition. The fundamentalists are organized and have an agenda. If they go unopposed we will all suffer. So we will continue to fight back as long as our schools are under attack.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -4/+18Time to start mass distributing it.
- lee1199, on 01/06/2008, -1/+15They'd believe the "devil" sent them.
- pastasauce, on 01/06/2008, -1/+15I vote for the tallest one.
- ZooCoug, on 01/06/2008, -3/+17No amount of information or evidence will ever sway the hardcore ID proponents. But this will at least help those who don't know much about it make an informed opinion.
- mdoerr, on 01/06/2008, -5/+19This is precisely what the national academy should be working on. This is fantastic stuff.
- inactive, on 01/06/2008, -7/+20What God?
Done. - thesonofdarwin, on 01/06/2008, -1/+14There shouldn't be anything TO convince people about. Fact is fact.
At least we know what it must have felt like with all of the other major scientific discoveries... earth is not flat, the Earth is not the center of the universe that everything else revolves around, the existence of chromosomes, biological microuniverse, the existence of elements, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. (etc.)
It's like beating one's head against a brick wall for people to understand evidence and fact. Thankfully science keeps moving on and is not entirely halted by the ignorance of the masses. - ats314, on 01/06/2008, -8/+21We can see distant galaxies, build nano-machines, clone animals, and we need an 88-page document to explain why evolution is real and creationism is fake. You can't make this ***** up. The root of all global conflict is religion.
- MJG2007, on 01/06/2008, -1/+13Wow....that sounded remarkably like it should have ended with "LEAVE CREATIONISM ALONE!!!!"
- S1ngular1ty1, on 01/06/2008, -1/+13The FAQ section is great.
My favorite part so far.
Isn’t belief in evolution also a matter of faith?
Acceptance of evolution is not the same as a religious belief. Scientists’ confidence
about the occurrence of evolution is based on an overwhelming
amount of supporting evidence gathered from many aspects of the natural
world. To be accepted, scientific knowledge has to withstand the scrutiny
of testing, retesting, and experimentation. Evolution is accepted within the
scientific community because the concept has withstood extensive testing by
many thousands of scientists for more than a century. As a 2006 “Statement
on the Teaching of Evolution” from the Interacademy Panel on International
Issues, a global network of national science academies, said, “Evidence-based
facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet
have been established by numerous observations and independently derived
experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines” (emphasis in
original). (See http://www.interacademies.net/Object.File/Master/6 ...
Evolution%20statement.pdf.)
Many religious beliefs do not rely on evidence gathered from the natural
world. On the contrary, an important component of religious belief is faith,
which implies acceptance of a truth regardless of the presence of empirical
evidence for or against that truth. Scientists cannot accept scientific conclusions
on faith alone because all such conclusions must be subject to testing
against observations. Thus, scientists do not “believe” in evolution in the
same way that someone believes in God. - nullx42, on 01/06/2008, -1/+13YES! Because ***** forbid our leaders have some sort of rational thinking that wasn't wasted away to make room for fairy tails about arks and animals and resurrections and the such. I want my leader to be one that thinks anyone whom disagrees is not part of the nation that he or she runs. I'm voting for Huckabee, and if he wins, I'm moving to canada.
- OneLess, on 01/06/2008, -3/+15Using pure scientific ignorance to pander to a crowd. What a man of principles.
- Zarokima, on 01/06/2008, -3/+14The vast majority I've come across don't.
- Zarokima, on 01/06/2008, -1/+12If we're not educating the stupid we're not doing our job as the more intelligent. That's not to say that every biochemist should be out teaching the minute details of DNA and stuff, I mean more general things like separating scientific fact from ***** fantasy. Would you prefer eugenics?
- surian, on 01/06/2008, -4/+15Evolution doesn't exist... Chuck Norris just round-house kicks animals until they become a new species.
- brstilson, on 01/06/2008, -1/+11I can. Evolutionary education in America is poor at best. Textbooks are purposely dumbed down to avoid controversy. When I was in high school, my parents actually opted me out of the evolution section in biology class. I was excused from class to go to the library, so I didn't learn it.
- Ramble, on 01/06/2008, -2/+12Fair question, but evolution doesn't deal with the origin, so that's why you wont find the answer in the theory. Check out the abiogenesis page on wikipedia if you want some answers.
- bomber91, on 01/06/2008, -1/+111. this is the exact anger and cruel aspect i was talking about and 2. did you even read what i wrote? "eager to pass judgment on those that dont live or think like you." i said that i am not here to change anyones views in any way. how am i passing judgment. it seems to me like most of these people are just as uneducated about religion as you accuse me of being about evolution.
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