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- J_Omega, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Kashey : We've never PROVED Einstein right. We don't need to try and validate Newton because we have already DISPROVEN him.
@ tweaq : They'll NEVER prove anything. Science cannot prove things, only invalidate and disprove other theories. One of the tenets of science is to not assume your theory is perfect. So no, it is not easy to prove or disprove. It is impossible to prove, and so far has been impossible to disprove. - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1More info (summary of the paper.. a bit heavy): http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7065/abs/nature04233.html
- OmniOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article references new effects that were discovered as part of this experiment. This is a red flag for me that makes me suspicious of the quality of science being conducted. Typically if an experiment needs a whole bunch of new theory to have the data fit the theory being tested, there's a good chance that the additional theory wasn't as much suggested by the results, but fanagled into place to make the data fit the original theory.
- FunHeadlines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Naturally Einstein's theory of relativity was proven with the lead of a pencil. What do you think Einstein used? The eraser part?
- super_structure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It is not easy to explain their significance but both discoveries led to Nobel prizes."
Kind of sounds like 'trust us, we're smart scientists. I'm not saying I doubt them, but some further explanation wouldn't hurt this article. - Butterbean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0crappy article, nodigg
- Kashey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I GETTING SICK AND TIRED of those "Einstein is once again proven right".
Why Newton's stuff isn't in need to be proven right. Ah?
Anyways IDGAF!! - Brutusfly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sweet. Graphene, fermions, good times.
- stimpack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'd test this out, but my wife says I have no lead in my pencil :(
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What it should read:
"Einstein's relativity theory COULD BE proven with the 'lead' of a pencil. We hope." - sebastiangomez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow.. I was expecting a in depth article and an explanation on how they managed that.. but oh well, no digg.
- Hieros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nice. I can see a good portion of you don't understand what you are reading and try to dismiss it. This is a major find to the scientific community.
- _jinx_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Agreed, if this is to be "proven" I would expect a little more excitment let alone valid and well written/documented proof!
- DKasler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pencils dont contain lead... They contain Graphite.
- mjburian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was just WAITING for this to somehow involve shaking the pencil so that you could "see" that it wasn't a solid mass, but in actuality was "rubbery."
Actually, that would have been better than the ACTUAL article. - TheClone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Things like this can't be proven with expirements, only disproven.
- borderpatrol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not that much information.
- TheMJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Kashey
IDGAF... I wasn't aware that was even a standard abbreviation. I'll have to use that more often.
IDGAF - .Steven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't pencils have carbon graphite in them?
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Smells like ***** (data cooking) to me. Electrons might exhibit some characteristics of Dirac fermions but being massless sure isn't one of them.
- sailor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can prove string theory with rubber bands and a paper clip...
- tdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love 12 year old kids whining because they dont understand photosynthesis, let alone newtonian forces.
Of course pencils dont have lead. that would be why the title has quotation marks around lead. hell it even says that in the article.
Quantum hall effect is the subject of TEXTBOOKS, not webpages. If you do want to understand the effect better i suggest a doctorate. - Miketrav, on 03/24/2009, -0/+0We are a group that is challenging the current paradigm in physics which is Quantum Mechanics and String Theory. There is a new Theory of Everything Breakthrough. It exposes the flaws in both Quantum Theory and String Theory. Please Help us set the physics community back on the right course and prove that Einstein was right! Visit our site The Theory of Super Relativity: http://www.superrelativity.org
- volsung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Reading between the lines, it sounds like this is another one of those experiments where someone has figured out how to make one system which acts like another. In the case of graphene, they make the electric charges (due to the influence of the surrounding material) behave according to the same equation as a massless Dirac fermion. That does not mean they ARE massless Dirac fermions. (Any more than Socrates being a man demonstrates that all men are Socrates.) We in fact know that electrons (the charges in question) have mass, and have measured it many times.
What you can do with a system like this is check that mathematical predictions of massless Dirac fermion behavior actually work, when translated into this system. It does not tell you whether "relativity is correct" as a description of the behavior of fundamental particles moving at high speed. - Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0mmmm. I posted this 4 days ago
http://www.digg.com/science/Einstein_s_Theory_of_Relativity_Proven_With_The_Lead_of_a_Pencil..
so DUPE! hehe - Neuronjockey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Other Cosmological Models
The Einsteinian Big Banger model survives in the face of challenges from the Steady Stater flank currently bolstered by Edwin Hubbel's chief assistant Halton Arp's forehead slapping observation via direct photographic evidence of the proximal relationship between quasars and energetic galaxies pegged by "grant science" as residing at greatly disparate distances. Arp sez that red shift is quantaic and not the universal speed bump we think it is. His catalog of unusual galaxies remains a definitive textbook in academia, but his analyses of its non-edited photographic contents showing energetic galaxies ejecting quasars out their rotational axes, turned him into a villified heretic. Decide for yourself: http://www.haltonarp.com/
Walter Alter - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I have no idea what that article is trying to say, Im a physicist..."
are you trying to say that you're a bad physicist? - GhettoCash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i dugg this, but it lacks information though. it is very cool, but it needs more information
- Kashey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I have no idea what that article is trying to say, Im a physicist.."
Golden.:) - tduncn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have no idea what that article is trying to say, Im a physicist...
- tduncn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For what its worth. Photons are bosons, all bosons are so called massless. Electrons are fermions, all fermions have a known mass.
- TGMD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0SHHHH!! There Scientists Thats mean They are smarter than US... So Do they really need proof for the "Science", trust them they know what they are doing, just give them more research money so they can do it better.
- Luftwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1O RLY?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0***** DUPE YOU STUPID BITCH
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