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- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3We are not running out of oil. However, the continued use of oil might damage our environment long before it supposedly runs out.
The scarcity myth the oil industry has hoisted on us is an excuse to charge ridiculous prices for their products. Oil isn't scarce.
For example, under the Falkland Islands, there's more oil than in Kuwait. You really think the British actually fought Argentina for those islands just for a bunch of sheep? Get real.
Which company is one of the largest petroleum companies in the world? BP. That's BRITISH PETROLEUM, or, as they now like to be called, Beyond Petroleum.
Gawd, people. Its like nobody ever watched the X-Files. Black oil will get'cha... - Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah plate tectonics is a "theory." You know, WackyT, like the "theory" of a heliocentric solar system, the "theory" of relativity, and the "theory" of molecules.
When are people going to understand that "theory" in science doesn't mean, as in the common parlance, a "best guess." Want to doubt plate tectonics? Fine, but read up on the ***** mountains of evidence first. - catcardz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Great, so if we do not run out of oil to burn, how long will it take to run out of clean air because of all the fumes?
My point is that is doesn't matter whether or not we are going to run out of oil, we still need to look for better energy alternatives. - WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I like these 2 quotes.
* C. Maurice and C. Smithson, Doomsday Mythology: "Every ten or fifteen years since the late 1800’s (when we began using petroleum) ‘experts’ have predicted that oil reserves would last only ten more years. These ‘experts’ have predicted nine of the last zero oil-reserve exhaustions."
*Sheik Yamani, one time oil minister to Saudi Arabia, who stated in a speech to Europeans, "The stone age ended, but not because of any lack or stones. Undoubtedly the oil age will end the same way."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/crispin/crispin12.html - Kielrandor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmm, interesting. I agree with Drahknon tho, let's see some science behind it. It makes sense tho. I mean complex polymers are formed in a lab under intense heat and pressures from hydrocarbons. Carbohydrate Hydrocarbons are broken down with intense heat and pressure through a process known as Thermal Deploymerization. Our best understanding of how oil is created involves breaking down complex organic compounds with intense heat and pressure over millions of years. Stands to reason that you can do the same thing with higher heat and higher pressure to more common hydrocarbons that occur deeper down in the earths crust.
- foohookups311, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Very Interesting. I am not sure if I totally buy the information in this article but it is interesting to consider. I just think that many science communities produce junk science to advance some sort of political agenda.
A great example of junk science is the belief that humans are a significant factor in global warming. If humans seriously contributed to global warming then why does Mars show signs of global warming with no SUVS, gas guzzling private jets, etc.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1660 - Diggg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This 'theory' of hydro-carbons percolating upwards to the Earth's crust from the Earth's core has been taught in Soviet & Post-Soviet universities for over 75 years and has been plagiarised by various western researchers for at least the last 50 years.
It also explains how hydro-carbons are spectrum-analysed on asteroids, etc in deep space. - QuikSilvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is actually a bad thing, more greenhouse gasses and air pollutants may be on the way for a longer time.
- thebigbossnahhh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Careful, the Hippies might get mad that your supplying facts from NASA research.
- DrMerle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Geez, and I thought it took tens of millions of years for fossils to break down and create oil deposits... It must be the work of GOD!!! God has blessed the Saudi's and the Texan's... I agree with the guy that said this will be taught alongside intelligent design, that sounds like a good idea, we could put some taxpayer funds behind it and make some real progress. While we're at it we should make Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell president.
- thebigbossnahhh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ouch, Sarcasm, Factor 9.5 on the Sarcasm-O-Meter! lol
- Ryland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not even a theory, it's just *****. They're trying to get it into the discourse and get it talked about, so then they when people object because it's *****, they can say, "Well if it's *****, then why are people all talking about it? There's obviously a controversy, let's study it and settle the issue." It's the same tactic as with Intelligent Design, if you get enough jackasses to talk about it, then you can make it appear that there's a dispute over the science, when in reality there is no dispute. It's just a group with a vested interest trying to call attention to their agenda. In this case, an "oil regeneration" myth serves the interests of oil companies, because it keeps people buying SUVs rather than investigating alternative energy sources.
- Codom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We should extract the spagetti from atoms and use it to make bio-diesel.
That is if string theory is more than a theory. - Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"A great example of junk science is the belief that humans are a significant factor in global warming. If humans seriously contributed to global warming then why does Mars show signs of global warming with no SUVS, gas guzzling private jets, etc."
Um, because Mars has a completely different atmospheric makeup than Earth and therefore is capable of warming and cooling for completely different reasons? - hepcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WND is one of the LEAST credible "news" sources out there. You'd be better off going over to the Moonies at the Washington Times than believing anything from WND.
- bbiggs32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seriously folks, it's part of God's plan for everyone to own SUVs.
- dan_s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The concept of 'oil reserves' has changed somewhat over the years. I dont know where he is getting his numbers but oil reserves HAVE doubled over the past few years because the way oil is extracted has become more efficient and therefore usable oil has increased. There isnt a greateramount of oil.. just we have a better ability to use it.
- fourcorners, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WackyT Super String Theory isn't "being made up to explain the unexpainable" it is propagated and entertained because it ties two worlds of science as we know them together. For it to be true some aspects of the universe have to be outside our current understanding. But I'm guessing you are just afraid of science since you've alrdy been told and believe what you have been told about the unexplainable through folk lores that have been passed on for generations. God knows with campfire stories who needs science, at my next campfire I'm going to regress to whisper something about earth being flat and self replenishing oil. ;)
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought this was already a theory - I've been thinking it for years now.
- thebigbossnahhh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Nope, coal causes greater pollution than petroleum and Diesel combined.
- azuldude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have believed for some time that oil renews itself. Even if an organic process is solely responsible, wouldn't that process continue to produce new oil? Plants and animals have been dying and decaying on this planet for millions of years. An important thing to keep in mind though is that even with renewable oil, if we continue using oil faster than it can be renewed, we will still eventually run out.
- browell172, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My question is... They don't know how oil is made?
- DaviDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tree hugging is wrong, and therefore this is a credible theory. - No digg from me.
No, there isn't enough oil to last us a long time.
Oil only has to reach Hubert's peak for the current western way of life to die. It's unsustainable!
As soon as production cannot meet demand, prices will inflate and cheap energy for transportation is gone.
Oil doesn't have to end for a crisis to be at hand, we only have to reach half capacity of the reserves.
Why do you think there is a "hydrogen economy" planed?
Because we will reach Hubert's peak certainly before 2030, some predict we will experience that much sooner.
We will produce electricity from natural gas and coal, and then use it to transform hydrogen for transportation, but initially losing EROEI.
The EU plans to have 40% of it's energy made from runnable resources before 2010, and the nuclear fusion reactor will start to be built at about that time...
It's definitely coming and it'll be this generation to deal with it.
I realize this is an American web board and I will become a Target for saying this - but we already had a war for oil. Freeing a country from a dictator is nice, but ensuring a cheap supply of energy for years to come, is an even nicer bonus. - infra172, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm sick and tired of these religious fanatics who ignore facts because it doesn't fit their beliefs. By the way, I'm talking about the liberals. Environmentalist is just another way to say pagan.
- Ryland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow, digg has gone downhill since it got popular. World Net Daily is worse than Fox News, worse than the New York Daily News, it's almost as bad as the News Of The World. It's a blatant right-wing propaganda rag. Anybody who got a passing grade in high school chemistry can figure out that this story is *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey dumbass, I'm not holding your eyelids open and forcing you to read the story. Please stop commenting.
- pubbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually, world net daily are a bit shady.. I've noticed, as im sure others have, they lean to the right.. a lot. Less than fox though.
- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As for oil being crucial for plastics...well, plastics can also be made from soy and corn. It just hasn't been cost effective as of late.
Has Iceland made an official statement why it has hedged its bets against joining the EU despite the fact that almost every other member of the former EFTA has joined (well, not Norway)? I realize what we now call the EU finally signed a free trade agreement with the holdout EFTA nations back in the 90s, but wouldn't they want a say on some of the trade policies of that block? Perhaps they don't want to be suckered into the CAP which did dramatically raise agricultural prices in the U.K. and Ireland since they joined. - dig-dug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd have to see more hard evidence before I believe the earth has a gooey oil center, like the middle of a huge cadbury Easter egg..
Occam's razor: they miscalculated the output of the oil field, oil doesn't so much "flow" underground like water in a huge empty balloon, it doesn't work like that. more output would have to coincide with more drilling. - MediaShipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If this was true, our current administration would be telling us this crap everyday. It would be in every Humvee commercial!
- dtatom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well until we can see straight into the core it is hard to say whether this story has any truth, but it was capable of pissing off a few of my tree hugger friends. For that reason alone it worth a digg :)
- ookla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm with ryland here - anything out of WND starts out with little credibility. I don't really care if you're a lefty or a righty - BS is still BS ...
- Optimus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Once again... DIE, WACKYT, DIE. You and your kind hold back the progress of all mankind. You're so afraid of life. You destroy young minds to suit your own idea of what reality *should* be and not what it is or what the best evidence tells us it is. Please, just die :(
- TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"""""My package is so big it fills 9 dimensions. Seriously, who the ***** cares? There's only one that matters. THIRD."""""
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
So, you have only depth and no length or width (insert phallic joke of your choosing here).
PS.
I thought there were 12.
Eric Wilson - TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0By the way, do you all know that if it was not for global warming of burning trees thousands of years ago we would be in another ice age? Or that is what scientists believe now. I don't know if I buy that global warming is caused by people and not caused by a normal earth cycle.
Eric Wilson - Axim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love how you can post any bs story and just by virtue of putting a question mark at the end make it an acceptable article.
Ghosts the cause of electricity?
YOU BE THE JUDGE - d-rock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Everybody knows oil comes from Arabs. They make it from pigs. We eat pigs here, they don't. That's why we run out.
PIGS FOR OIL!!!
Damn you Bush for not signing the Pig Protocol!!
Bush = Hitler
I want some bacon... - chesterton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The possibility that this occurs at all is pretty interesting to consider. It has always seemed a bit of a strech to consider that dead creatures and plants had to be the source of all this stuff. Is there protein in oil? Is it broken down protein? Do all the chemical formulas balance out (x amount of dead animal in, add pressure and heat to break it down, and x amount of crude oil out)? I don't claim to know, but given how much oil we go through, even if stuff was dying off for a long time, what about the food chain? Taking all that biomatter out of the food chain must have been pretty devastating.
I think I'm going to check out the book and see how plausible the arguments are. - fli7e, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So basically here's what I got from that story:
"We are finding more oil reserves."
Sorry guys, but that isn't enoguh to warrant calling it "regeneration." Yeah, oil regenerates, at a rate of what... 25 barrels per day worldwide? - TK99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well this is either an oil company's wet dream or environmentalist worse nightmare.
- cuoops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0May 25 2004?? Old article..anyway, don't worry, there's enough oil to last us for a long long time...and by the time we use it all up, which we will not, there will be all kind of new ways of getting energy..kthx
- macbayboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What do we really know about oil and where it came from? How much there exists. We are being feed lies through every avenue and we believe it.
- Mofo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's also ***** more oil in Texas the only problem is there's no pressure to pump it up because during the oil rush there everyone and there mother tapped a well taking out all the natural pressure. So there's ***** of oil very deep with no plausible way of getting it out (research is under way injecting gasses etc). There is also more oil under the Rockies than has ever been burned period. Oh and natural gas can be converted to oil. In short fossil fuels are going nowhere soon.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh, nevermind above post. That story is from BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4293934.stm - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If anyone wants to read more about this:
http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm
http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj4.htm
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/pi/margins/seeps_workshop.html
It appears that people have talked about this beyond the pages of WorldNewsDaily... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I realize that WND isn't the most credible news source but the article is interesting, and deserves a look. There has been like 60 comments stating this so please stop commenting on the credibility. People can decide for themselves whether or not to digg the story.
- bilange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Credible??
Wake up, this is a *theory* ! :P - stormlrd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0nothing to see here, move along - no digg
- peterw99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0no, oil does not regenerate! There are a fee theories for oil generation at depth by a Fischer-Trops process (like that used by germany in wwII) ... but it's unlikely to work on this scale and is largely dismissed by scientists. I think what we are seeing here is a very deep reservoir of oil, going into a not so deep reservoir. The uppermost reservoir gets pumped out quickly, then the deeper reservoir slowly creeps up to refill it. It does not jsut form as a regerative process, isotope dating/modelling woudl show that conclusively I think.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wouldn't say digg has "gone downhill". I posted this story simply because I thought it was worth a look. I think its great that people have conflicting views on this and discuss it. If you don't like it, don't digg it.
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