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- crashkg, on 11/26/2007, -6/+94Obviously God did not design intelligent enough followers to make their own video.
- iomegaboy, on 11/26/2007, -32/+107As a devout Christian, I think that most people pushing for this type of thing to be taught are ***** retards.
You can believe in evolution and (not) creationism, but who's to say God didn't use evolution to design us? - reeder, on 11/26/2007, -30/+101How anyone can listen to the laughable talking-point phrase "intelligent design" and believe it!? What a joke this country has become under Bush.
- iFrikkenR, on 11/26/2007, -14/+73You can hardly blame Bush for the rise of "intelligent design"
Still, the rapid increase of believers in this theory is a definite concern for all. Given the chance it could set us back to the dark ages (you can thank christianity for that one too). Well, maybe not set us back, but impede research and development to the point where we aren't advancing at all. - AmishRefugee, on 11/26/2007, -4/+58I understand what you're saying and agree with the loathing of our current copyright system, but the fact remains that they stripped the video of any mention of who actually made it and tried to pass it off as their own work. This goes far beyond what anyone who rips music videos from MTV and uploads them to Youtube without permission would be guilty of.
- robdiggity, on 11/26/2007, -2/+45And the radical agenda, and the matured organization and funding to delver on it. No, the sky isn't falling, but when wackos organize and secure finances it's time to check for cracks.
- DimensionalPunk, on 11/26/2007, -3/+44As an atheist 3D Animator, if I made this, I would sue the living ***** out of these idiots.
- AshamedAmerican, on 11/26/2007, -6/+43Man, for a group claiming to be so righteous and pure they should do seem to pervert everything they can get their paws on.
- AmishRefugee, on 11/26/2007, -9/+42I respect your right to your opinion and everything but,
"but who's to say God didn't use evolution to design us?" is not a very fair question, considering no matter what you say or do and no matter what I say or do, neither of us can prove or disprove whether God is behind all this, so unless someone comes up with a way to prove or disprove god (I don't think that's very likely to happen) this argument is going to always remain a stalemate. - thespudmall, on 11/26/2007, -2/+34Or is it the other way around?
- Ajajadude, on 11/26/2007, -3/+34Just think about it as if they were a student writing a thesis paper and rather than write their own paper, they bought one and stamped their name on it. This isn't a copyright issue like the RIAA v. The Consumer. This is blatant plagiarism, plain and simple.
- SlvrEagle23, on 11/26/2007, -4/+33What kind of an ***** of a God would give us no definitive evidence against evolution, then get pissed when we considered it irrefutable fact?
This is the same question that reveals a great deal of manipulation inherent in religion. What kind of a higher power would give a species such a vast free will, leave it with no conclusive evidence of his existence, then banish its members to hell when they very rightfully questioned the higher power's existence? There's a huge hole in the logic of religion here...the hole where God is supposedly humanlike in his vengeance against nonbelievers and thus critically flawed, but yet at the same time perfect. This paradox doesn't work out very well for humans, but it works out wonderfully for the people who translated the Bible, and the people who continue to maneuver politically to exploit it for their own capital or authoritative gains. ;) - carterbaldwin, on 11/26/2007, -2/+31From reading your other comments, I'm reasonably sure that you're just doing this preposterously conservative thing for kicks. Regardless, it's scary that all your beliefs and positions are shared by real people.
- sv650touring, on 11/26/2007, -1/+26He's totally a ***** troll. Let's not feed him.
- Schneckehaus, on 11/26/2007, -0/+23Try the fact that people that believe in fairy tales can be in power.
If Bush believed in Santa I would be equally worried. - merper, on 11/26/2007, -0/+23Who ever said this had anything to do with proving them wrong? This is about plagiarism plain and simple.
If you want to find info proving them wrong, there's millions of other places that do that. - tchynerd, on 11/26/2007, -1/+23cells are fictional?
- penchant, on 11/26/2007, -13/+35My initial reaction was "HA HA, sue 'em Harvard, the public media would go nuts!!!"
But I had to think long and hard about this digg, as I was afraid I was selling my soul.....I loathe our current copyright laws and would normally cheer for the "guilty", but at the same time, I hate those dastardly proponents of Intelligent Design.... - Drahkar, on 11/26/2007, -2/+23People who believe in Intelligent Design are the same people who think you don't have to take medicine to cure diseases because you'll get cured by 'God's Will'.
- Richandler, on 11/26/2007, -3/+23Most people don't know the theory of evolution or lack of theory in intelligent design. Watch this PBS documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/
- UrbanOne, on 11/26/2007, -4/+24Jesus Christ, even The Pope believes in evolution. Why does everything have to be 'either/or'?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new ...
I am neither a scientist or a theologian, so I will defer to better-educated minds. But, who cares where we came from? Let's worry about where all this partisan hate is taking us. - Barbosa, on 11/26/2007, -3/+22You may be the most reasonable, rational and level headed Christian I have ever "met."
- SlvrEagle23, on 11/26/2007, -0/+19Are you honestly suggesting that the entire point of society is to test which of us believes in a certain particular god and follows a certain doctrine or religion? What are we, a focus group? A case study for God's doctoral dissertation?
To suggest that God would create "one true religion" and countless other partially untrue ones, many with beliefs that directly conflict with the one true one, then expect society to sift that one religion to the top by anything other than just pure popularity and imperialism, then directly punish those who quite reasonably questioned this whole process or wound up on the hemisphere of the planet that didn't largely follow that religion...
...really?! Do you see the flaws in that? - D3koy, on 11/26/2007, -2/+21I hope Harvard sues the hell out of them, then donates the money to some pro-evolution company or something...
- Pinkertinkle, on 11/26/2007, -4/+21Haha IDiots.
- Schneckehaus, on 11/26/2007, -1/+17Gods an ***** if he expects the only people to follow him to be in the same league as the same people who believe in the Tooth Fairy.
So if he is real, he can go ***** himself. - iomegaboy, on 11/26/2007, -13/+29I am not trying to WIN an argument. I know what I do about God based on faith and spiritual experiences that have proven to me that He is real. Not science. The assumption you make is that if there is a God, he MUST allow us to prove his existence through science. I fully support the scientific method and I also believe that eventually, all science and doctrine of God will be completely known to us (not of our own discovery) and we will see the big picture. Until then, all we can do is continue to try to discover our universe through science and have faith in the things that are not seen, which are true.
- SlvrEagle23, on 11/26/2007, -2/+15At this point, the only difference between you and me is that you attribute the spiritual emotions coursing through your head as being the result of a God, and I attribute them to the powerful ability of the brain to convince itself of absolutely anything. I'm absolutely fine with both of those viewpoints, because neither of us are using our personal feelings to manipulate others, and as long as they remain personal feelings they'll always be completely alright.
Dogma said something along those same lines once..."I don't have a belief, I have an idea"...beliefs are dangerous things that, largely by groupthink, spread across societies and control people just enough to get them to the point where they want to be controlled. Ideas are things you keep in your head...that might enrich you but don't do so at the expense of others. Ideas are fine. - iamafatguy, on 11/26/2007, -1/+12Bush endorses teaching ID in public school:
During a White House interview with a group of reporters yesterday, Bush was asked whether “intelligent design,” the latest version of “creationism,” should be taught in public school science courses.
Bush told the reporters that he favors teaching intelligent design “so people can understand what the debate is about.”
“I think part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought,” Bush said. “You’re asking me whether or not people ought to be exposed to different ideas, the answer is yes.”
http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7 ... - sarge96, on 11/26/2007, -0/+11"secular religion"
Whatever the hell a secular religion is. - nazadus, on 11/26/2007, -0/+11I'm not a religious person, however I really don't think they are following Christs teachings. If anything, they are bastardizing them to their own goals. Thusly, I don't view these people as regular Christians. I classify them as the same fanatics that I place under Muslims that are fanatics (ok, a peg or two lower than the Muslims with xplodey bits) but point being -- I don't classify them as Christian by what a Christ calls Christians.
- Barbosa, on 11/26/2007, -0/+10I only wish it was a parody... unfortunately, the IDer's have arrived in my area too so I have learned that they are all too serious and they are becoming a potent force on the local school board here.
- jgreene777, on 11/26/2007, -3/+13how do you animate atheism?
- RedHerringHack, on 11/26/2007, -2/+12They will never convince the truly intelligent that ID is real, so game over.
- thebellmaster1x, on 11/26/2007, -0/+9I can't recall anything that ever said Christians couldn't curse. If I'm wrong, do correct me on this.
- TheDHC, on 11/26/2007, -0/+9great documentary
- thebellmaster1x, on 11/26/2007, -0/+8Oh, and even though evolution and cells are most definitely not fiction, if you don't think that you can copyright fiction, you're an idiot. Try selling a copy of Gravity's Rainbow with your name on it and see if Pynchon comes after you.
- Pake, on 11/26/2007, -6/+14Ah, but this is a parody!
- SlvrEagle23, on 11/26/2007, -3/+11Forgive me, but it really seems like meshing God to fit science now that society has improved enough to actually have science is just a convenient way of rationalizing a belief in a higher power...long after the modern world has given you every reason and every opportunity to question God, religion and its leaders.
I understand why you would do it...your whole life was greatly defined by religion, your parents might've followed it, your friends might've believed it, your country probably has a huge percentage of believers in it...but none of that does anything to prove it. Popularity doesn't equate to perfection, which just might be the only reason I don't already worship Madonna and Bono. - cam2009, on 11/26/2007, -5/+13Creationists and Intelligent Design people are two different things. Intelligent Design didn't take off until the Creationists push to put the literal Bible in schools failed decades ago. They work with whatever limited area science isn't 100% sure in and mold the Bible to fit the current view. Picking and choosing, God of the Gaps, etc. Creationists are generally more 'if it's in the Bible, it's true.' Creationists twist facts to support the Bible, ID people twist the Bible to fit science. Neither make any sense in the modern logical world, and the way ID people now are trying to masquerade as science but the ID movement is definitely a threat to reason, but ID is much less dangerous than trying to convince the schools of a 6,000 year old Earth.
- SlvrEagle23, on 11/26/2007, -3/+10The brain has an amazing way of convincing itself that the first belief it held regarding something is the correct belief. Of course you haven't seen any reason to question God, as the filter of your brain has removed that as a viewpoint toward any of outside society, including science and religion.
As long as you are aware of the inherent weaknesses in your own psychology, you will never be without a reason to question the set of feelings and forces and answers to grand questions you collectively refer to as God. - scabbers, on 11/26/2007, -5/+12They probably did it on purpose to troll for publicity.
- AndrewJC, on 11/26/2007, -1/+8I feel for you if you've never seen a single reason to question God. You've either led a completely sheltered life of perfection, in which case you've always been happy with Him, or you choose not to look into the face of the world, in which case you're unbelievably naive.
The people who have REAL spiritual belief are the people who HAVE found reason to question God and yet still come out the other side with their belief intact. The people who accept the Word for what it is without ever truly analyzing or questioning it are nothing more than sheep and, in my opinion, are wasting the gift of Free Will that God gave them. - merper, on 11/26/2007, -1/+8Don't suppose DI is connected to Answers in Genesis. I would love to see Harvard sue them and get a multimillion dollar settlement they'd pay for by turning over the ID "museum" they put up. All Harvard would need to do to turn it into a real one is relabel the exhibits.
- solarsavior, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7Hate to burst your bubble, but evolution does NOT explain how something comes from nothing. For that, please read up on abiogenesis. Evolution explains how genes change over time, resulting in the diversity of organisms.
- thebellmaster1x, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7Descended from monkeys? Christ, I would've thought that somebody like you would at least push past the absolute cliché of the straw man arguments against evolution. Go back to high school; that is, assuming you've passed 9th grade, which is a pretty big jump for me to take.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7Huh? In what way is a welfare system considered natural selection? By definition, welfare is the absolute opposite of natural selection and that explains why natural selection has no effect in this situation. Your argument is retarded.
- noodhoog, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7At last. Someone speaking sense, who sees the bible the way I do!
Someone who understands the metaphors!
Like, when it says Jesus was the son of God, born of a virgin, who died on the cross to save us from our sins, and was later resurrected... that's actually just a metaphor that really means "You shouldn't eat hot dogs on a Friday"
Oh, I'm sorry.. is that not what you believe was meant there? Well, I guess we'll never know who's right or wrong, given that you can pick any bit you disagree with and say "Well, that's obviously meant as metaphor!"
Oh, but I forgot. You can't. After all, the bible is the word of God, and who are you or I to argue with him when he tells us the bible is inerrant:
2 Timothy 3:16: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (KJV)
or, Deuteronomy 4:2: "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
I guess that means the world really IS flat, hung on pillars, and that dragons, demons, angels and witches are all real after all. - martinmayhem, on 11/26/2007, -4/+11This leads to at least 2 problems for the the fundamentalist:
1. If God set everything up at the Big Bang and then let evolution take its course, that implies the bible doesn't contain the literal truth. As there's only one God, and the Bible doesn't contain the word of God, that means that the other monotheistic religions out there could contain the word of God, and why shouldn't I be paying a % of my income to those Churches? Or maybe there's one God and everyone worships the same God, or maybe ... shock... horror... there's no God!
2. If God set up everything and then stepped back and watched it go, then there's no real "hands on" God, which means prayers are pretty pointless, and then Churches are also pointless, so why pay a % of your income to belong to a church, and why not join another club where you'll actually enjoy yourself and have a good time for less? - stopbrorape, on 11/26/2007, -2/+8the truth that we descended from unicorns!!!!!!1
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