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- bigboy101011, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11The next generation of led throwies
- reason78, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"The paper battery converts chemical energy directly into electricity."
OH MY GOD, so its just like a.... BATTERY. - foxtwo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Are there any other sources to back their claims? This site is from the viewpoint of the company only. No photos of the product or other third-party reviews. In addition they say they "have developed miniature power sources over 10 years." However there is only this one product. I'd like to see other references to the technology first.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Hope it's got a better electrolyte than the one from Singapore
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/pee-powered_battery/ - wrinkles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Anyone who would find this interesting doesn't have a clue as to what a battery is. Two different metals separated by a membrane in a conducting solution makes a battery. Here's a battery made from a lemon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_Battery . Digg that!
- sintaks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A similar (almost identical... no... identical product) :
http://www.powerpaper.com/
1.5 V, with a nominal current draw of... 1mA..! VERY low powered, indeed. But check out that voltage distribution plot... it's nearly flat! Very cool. - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Congratulations you're the third person so far to point this out. Thanks for reading!
- Toast1185, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is really vauge. I'd like to know how you can gear my tv remote up to run through a peice of paper. It sounds like it could happen, but there are virtually no specs about this
- funbags, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Let me know when it vibrates, then we got a product.
- Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There is clearly a need for this or similar if we are to combine with the paper screen that is already in limited use. Then we can have decent cereal packaging with built in computers (as seen in "Minority report") I won't be digging this because it needs further verification and research. However it is another component for the $10 mobile phone/computer. As for "snap, crackle and pop" what happens when it has added sound effects . . .
- NewEvolution, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2At 1.5 volts, this isn't something to be running high-powered electronics off of. But, seeing as current single cell batteries (AAA - D) put out 1.5 volts, this is clearly designed to be a replacement for standard consumer use batteries. The only hitch I can see is the run time of these new paper cells. Standard batteries get exponentially larger in size as their longevity increases. That is, in fact, the only difference between a AAA and a D cell battery...the D lasts far longer under full load.
@ wrinkles - ...um. According to the article, that's exactly what this is. The membrane containing the electrolyte just happens to be paper. I'm not sure I'm catching your point.
@ jasonsfakename - Not sure if it's a hoax or not, but this company's web page needs a MAJOR overhaul if they're going to attract any serious investors. - fivefootstep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3 I would love to jot down a note on an A4, tap "email", then log off, fold it up, and stick it back in my pocket.
Only worries about the future of this product theme: dealing with unwanted creases instead of scratches, accidentally shredding your MP3 player, legal forms suddenly changing after you sign them, mistakingly using a permanent marker instead of a stylus...
Upside: mail a freaking awesome letter, in a freaking awesome envelope. Take notes with incredible awesomeness, write a book on one sheet of paper (scroll bar or pagination w/ nav buttons). Walking around with a folded-up eBay item in your pocket... that you can check the status of.
Oh, the possibilities
and if it gets cheap to manufacture, when can we start printing wifi layers into the whole mess?
Yay.
Okay, I'll shaddup now, and hopefully my stupid comment won't get -dugg - karmajunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2actually i'm relatively certain that it doesn't have to be metals--any reducible cathode and oxidizable anode material will do. Metals are just the easiest to work with.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's why those items aren't called batteries Einstein.
- Nevarius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not earth shattering and for sure not going to go into any power hungry device atm, but could very well fill a need considering its:
Cheap (low manufacturing cost and raw material cost)
Thin and flexible (customer decides the size and shape)
Easy disposal due to environmentally friendly technology
Easy integration to the applications (both the power source and application are printable by roll to roll manufacturing technology)
limited use/throw away items come to mind. not to mention if this technology advances it may prove to be a cheap and environmental way to power day to day devices. Cool idea in which i hope advances and evolves. - tylerni7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Those things are hard to make if you use a button battery because the magnet doesn't stick well. With paper those would kick ass.... (And for all of you who don't know what LED throwies are... google it they rock)
- duckhat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@ NewEvolution - wrinkles's point is that this isn't news for those who are familiar with how batteries work. *Every* battery directly converts chemical energy into electricity. The design of the battery described in the article isn't particularly novel either. By design, I mean: paper separator in liquid electrolite between two electrodes. Zinc batteries have been around forever (they were very common before alkalines came along) . The only thing about linked battery worth metioning is that it sounds like it is easy to build and relatively light.
- Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"The paper battery converts chemical energy directly into electricity" isn't that what all batteries do?
- fivefootstep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2reason has already pointed this out, but yes, yes it is. =) And rechargable ones also convert electrical energy to chemical, in a nice reversal of the process.
- vandykee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1crap page. get a picture of the product, perhaps in some real application like powering e-paper.
- sintaks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I love how people post comments without reading the previous comments.
- koguma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I can't wait till they make toilet paper like this. It will be a BLAST!
- jasonsfakename, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This seems to me to be a hoax. All I see is a page without references or pictures. I doubt it would be viable in every day life....A laptop battery made of paper wouldn't last long.
- ChrisGranger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2OT: Their logo has horrible JPG compression artifacts. Someone should tell their webmaster about PNG.
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2you beat me to it! What a stupid headline...
- fivefootstep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1lmao
- BigBill62629, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Bogus
- fivefootstep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I love how people post comments without reading the previous comments.
- muzic.pirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0If a company can develop such a cool product, don't you think they can get a 12 year old to design their site instead of a 9 year old? I'm just saying....
- fivefootstep, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Testicles... Aren't we talking about paper-thin batteries?
Apparently this article is written in a language that just happens to confuse the issue of penis pumps with power paper.
Interesting. - epicbard, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3You could have hit the "Check Spelling" button.
Back on topic.
This sounds cool. I would like to see it working. - dashjackson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Many people have stated that all batteries convert chemical energy directly into electricity, but I have a few words for you.
Flywheel, Pendulum, Spring. - Dragular, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Whoa whoa whoa now. Do huh? When was pumping explained in the article? I got lost in scientrific mumbo jumbo.
- aAnaRchY, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Just tell me one battery that it doesn't converts chemical energy directly into electricity. The only different thing with this battery is that it's thinner that other batteries.
- azar, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5AHAHAHAHAHA....oh man... thanks for making me laugh man, i'm taking a screenshot for prosperity. Wrong article, dumbass.
- jedi_master, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3ummm.... yeah, I'd get that checked out if I were you...
- thewise1, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6That happens sometimes in my morning ritual -- I'll explain it:
I call it "the Terminator." First, I crouch down in the shower in the classic "naked Terminator traveling through time" pose. With my eyes closed, I crouch there for a minute, visualizing either Arnold or the guy from the second movie (NOT the chick in the third one, cause that one sucked) and I start to hum the Terminator theme. Then I slowly rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me to proceed through my day as an emotionless, cyborg badass. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my Terminator leg...it ruins the fantasy. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3What the hell? 12 hours old and it makes it to front page? the Orb story was 24 hours old. and it made it in under 40 votes, both did, wierd..... We need an explanation of the algorithim (sp?)
Very Interesting story - rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -18/+5Many people have a well-justified concern for the safety issues involved in pumping. The pumping process can cause blood vessels to burst, and can form blisters. In some cases the testicles can be unexpectedly pulled into the cylinder and cause an extreme amount of pain as well as possible injury.
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