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- thefox84, on 06/17/2009, -6/+56Which is why the drinking age should be lowered to 18. So it's no longer a huge thrill to be drinking.
- Suits, on 06/17/2009, -4/+45Yes. But compare to deaths caused by MARAJAWANA!? oh wait.
- adremali, on 06/17/2009, -10/+47natural selection. let it be.
- drifter, on 06/17/2009, -0/+28So hold up, the amount of deaths goes up roughly 400 people in 7 years and that seems like a huge shock or scare? Yes, it shouldn't be happening at all or shouldn't be rising at all. But the fact is, I bet the amount of people attending college has increased a great deal in the last 7 years. If say there has been an increase of a couple thousand then that 400 isnt as a big a number anymore.
- bubbles19518, on 06/17/2009, -2/+25Define binge drinking.... 5 drinks in a sitting is NOT binge drinking.
- bfogarty27, on 06/17/2009, -4/+27it really should be dropped to 18
kids in europe dont binge as much and tend to actually enjoy what theyre drinking and dont go for crap like natty
im currently in college and my school had 3 kids die last year from alcohol. if you just drink younger but responsibly you wont go to college unexperienced and not knowing what your tolerance is.
ive got my underage and puked in a cop car and had blackouts but never close to dying.
they try to blame drinking games which is stupid plenty of people play games with no issue. it is always the innexperienced drinker trying to impress everyone while they dont know what they are doing. - GMH24, on 06/17/2009, -2/+20I doubt the drinking age has much to do with it, since nobody adheres to it anyway.
- elnerdo, on 06/17/2009, -0/+16I guarantee you that most of the dead kids would say pretty much the exact same thing.
- Velocity14, on 06/17/2009, -0/+13I disagree.
Peer pressure will always provoke stupid and ridiculous alcohol-related decisions. Age has nothing to do with it, but maturity and education does. The constant desire to have an escape from "real life" results in excessive alcoholic consumption (and other drugs, too). Our culture really pumps the party scene out to be this fabulous way of life. We all buy into it at a young age because that's what impressionable kids do. Then we realize that real life takes a lot of ***** effort. Of course, partying is so much fun we don't want to give it up.
We are cultivated to participate in these vapid social rituals because the culture tells us this is the only way to have a social gathering. People who never get the chance to grow up mentally will perpetuate the college party scene. People who acknowledge how detrimental it is will move on from it. Ultimately, most college kids are a mess. We're developing our morals and personal beliefs about ourselves, others, the world, and our relationship with it. But then we're challenged with the ever growing temptation to escape.
It really affects the way we perceive happiness about ourselves or our life.
Lowering the age limit doesn't revoke the thrill of alcohol. Those who are already in a depressed state will simply fall victim to alcoholism sooner. People have to understand the consequences and responsibilities of drinking to be able to drink. And that's not something you can assign an age to. - Shadoblak, on 06/17/2009, -1/+13Yeah, polishing off a six pack while playing WoW isn't a rare occurrence..............................and I'm never gonna get laid again am I
- xcolonel, on 06/17/2009, -1/+12drunk driving -->accident-->couple die in other car---> natural selection?
- vapn420, on 06/17/2009, -0/+10I love how all the amateurs tell you how much they drink on the regular and expect the rest of us to be amazed.
- merimeet, on 06/17/2009, -3/+13I wish more people saw it this way too. Some deaths are meant to be!!
- raydeen, on 06/17/2009, -2/+12Bunch of ***** Nancy-boys. You don't go for the Olympic gold all at once, you have to practice and build up to it. Be sensible. Start with 2 beers a day. Then go for 3. Then 6 and a watered down bourbon. It might take 20 years or so but sooner or later you'll be downing half a case and a fifth a night with 4 hours sleep and a McDonald's iced coffee in the morning and be well on your way to a successful career as a shoe salesman living on a steady diet of Weenie Tots and Big 'Uns.
Edit: Y'know, I'm trying to be funny here, but the best bet is, don't start drinking. I did and I'm a raging alcoholic. So far I've been lucky but it's not a good scenario. Just walk away clean white man from town. - KingGorilla, on 06/17/2009, -0/+9again?
- zzzpoohzzz, on 06/17/2009, -0/+810 beers and a few shots of whisky? what about on weekends?
- opitica, on 06/17/2009, -0/+7you had trouble getting weed in canada? you're doing something wrong.
- inactive, on 06/17/2009, -4/+11it's only going to get worse. being fresh out of college myself i was witness to this culture. where it's "just what you do" -- and it goes far beyond just the weekend. for many, sadly, college has very little to do with learning and a lot to do with partying it up. woo. i know people my age who are full blown alcoholics as a result of this party culture. beer pong beer bong. getting so drunk nightly, because this is what they've been told fun is. it sucks. im going to lose a lot of friends to the battle with the bottle.
- cawpin, on 06/17/2009, -0/+7Nope, still not there.
- inactive, on 06/17/2009, -2/+9It's called survival of the fittest, not the stupidest, for a reason.
It's Darwin taking out the trash. - DeathRay2K, on 06/17/2009, -6/+10No deaths are linked to marijuana because they are linked to smoking in general instead. Thus the number of deaths linked to smoking goes up, and the number of deaths linked to marijuana remains unknown. ***** in your lungs is always bad, whether it's from a cigarette or a cigaweed. The only time marijuana makes sense is when it's medically necessary.
I'm going to get dugg down, I know... - elnerdo, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4Willingness to brag about quality of school/GPA/IQ/What-have-you is directly proportional to idiocy and douchebaggy-ness.
- vapn420, on 06/17/2009, -1/+5Mark is a perfect example of the brain damage caused by underage drinking. Seriously, how about just that we as a society glorify alcohol? Until a kid turns 21 his entire life is geared toward getting and consuming alcohol. If you want someone to blame, blame it on our countries ridiculous alcohol laws that will allow someone to fight in the army before they can have a beer. Of course all this negative press is going to make booze the forbidden fruit of the college crowd.
- Stoneman89, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4I buried you because you said hella. I could care less if you like being sober, alcohol isn't for everyone.
- Velocity14, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4I said it in another post of mine... but I don't think it's age related. I think it's because Europeans understand the difference between partying responsibly and partying recklessly. Sure, there are crazy party scenes everywhere... but I've had the personal experience of shifting from a circle of friends who weren't very keen on higher intelligence to a loop of friends who were all about understanding their limits.
Huuuuuuugggeeee difference in the party scene. - Whatasillyhat, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4England is one of the heaviest binge drinking countries in the world. All the major cities are riddled with kids getting wrecked on cheap, crap booze.
- JoeHague, on 06/17/2009, -2/+5You sure as hell don't type like you have a 3.8/
- JoeHague, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3The amount of drinks it takes to go from puking to death is much less than it takes to go from sober to puking/
- inactive, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3that study sounds so recent we need a link! The problem is darwinism. Who gives a ***** honestly. Stop drinking so much at school. If you're a loser? Stay one! I'm honestly drunk too
- smemily, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3Binge drinking is an acquaintance of my husband's who went through 6 cases of beer, completely by himself, in under a week.
He actually survived on beer, weed, and a meal every other day for several months, it was remarkable. - HappyScrappy, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3I don't really believe this. Binge drinking was huge when I was in collect in the 80s and my grandfather told me about how it was when he went in the 30s and it was no different.
It's always been there, it will always be there. Learning your own limits (hell, learning that you even have any) is part of growing up. - blktooth420, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3ha, me dropped'ed out of high school and me the dumb one.?.!.?.!.
- trespasser28, on 06/17/2009, -0/+3Garbage. Im from the UK, i go to uni and pretty much every single person (myself included) drinks to massive excess on a regular basis. We dont die as we have brains but binge drinking is a significant part of university life and its developing in countries such as Spain and the rest of continental Europe very quickly. In fact it has probably been a problem is America for less time than in many other countries. .
- Yawgmoth, on 06/17/2009, -1/+4it has everythign to do with it.
18-21 is old enough that you're away from your parents when you start drinking. So the only guidance you have when you start to drink are your other friends.
Lower the age to 18 and then you'll be introduced to alcohol at 16-18 when you're around your parents and they can (hopefully) knock some sense into you.
My parents taught me how to study, drive, shave and everything else that came with growing up. Why doesn't the state trust them to teach me how to drink?
I also second Urrelles' comment. I was good friends with the german foreign exchange student in highschool. He thought we were all ***** insane for making such a big deal about it. He thought we all acted like 14 year olds. - Yawgmoth, on 06/17/2009, -1/+4cool story bro
- Yawgmoth, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2@shadowofAres
That is only certain states. Most states don't allow you to go to the bar with your family and order a drink but only allow it in a 'private setting' which has a very tight definition.
Some of the laws are down rght silly. Check out california's exception " California permits minors to possess alcohol in private locations, but it is illegal for anyone to provide alcohol to minors in any setting"
source: http://www.alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/stateprofil ... - Skybird227, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2I think they're missing the connection. as colleges become more competitive and people are more stressed out all throughout high school they drink more once they get into college as a way of overcoming the stress they've been under for 4 years or more.. its not a problem that more cops and an even higher drinking age will fix
- Rethcir, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2You didn't spell it right.
- Dauntless1, on 06/17/2009, -1/+3You criminalized yourself. The judge just did his job.
- guruboyguru, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2Even if lowering the drinking age to 18 works, and there is good reason to believe it will, I would rather it stay at 21. Personally I take great happiness in the news of college and high school students dying from alcohol-related incidents. It's usually the stupidest people who die. I just wish drunk teenagers and college students weren't able to get on the road and hurt other people.
- cuoops, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2It has always been like this. The only difference is, there is more media coverage in these times. Nothing has changed about the drinking.
- vapn420, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2I also love how people aer quick to tell you about the top tiered school they went to but never have the balls to actually tell you which school it is for fear of getting called out for going to a crappy school or for fear of getting called out for lying.
- TheUngod, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2On the bright side, the parents can stop hemorrhaging money to support their kids drinking habit.
- AraleNorimaki, on 06/17/2009, -0/+2You want to go home and rethink your life.
- Yawgmoth, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1"An "interesting" finding from this study, Hingson notes, is that the increases in heavy episodic drinking, drinking and driving, and alcohol-related deaths were seen among 21- to 24-year-olds, and not 18- to 20-year-olds."
In other words, 21-24 year olds aren;t any more mature than 18-20 year olds. Who woulda thunk?
Here's an idea. Let's lower the age to 16 or 18, so that when people are STARTING OUT drinking, they have mommy and daddy to slap them around a bit if they get too drunk. The way it is now you have goody goodies waiting until they're 21 and they only have their equally stupid friends to help them out if they start to ***** up.
Even better have a graduated alcohol level. Let's say you know, Beer and wine and other lightly alcoholic beverages at 18, hard liquor at 21? hows that sounds? so you start off with training beers before you move to the 151 shots.
There's just got to be a better way. I'm in college right now and I can tell you the >21yrs law:
1) is WORTHLESS an impossible to enforce
2) makes college kids LESS likely to call a hospital if something is seriously wrong
3) increases binge drinking because the little kiddies don't know when the next time they're gunna get to sip the bottle again is.
If they start younger, especially when they have parental guidance (like I did) they learn their limits better and don't binge. - JoeHague, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1People don't say hella in SoCal?
also
Arrogant Bastard FTW/ - IPrintAll, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1"Why doesn't the state trust them to teach me how to drink?"
That would fall under the "exercising of free will".
And we'll have none of that! /s - inactive, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1just lower the drinking age to 18 already
- Renian, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1Er...hasn't the population of that age group also been inherently on the rise along with the rest of the population, thus allowing for more people to have accidents?
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