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- MorganMghee, on 11/06/2008, -7/+19Don't miss out on the fun! https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/ This project is doing more to break down racial intolerance than any single effort. Although we may all look and act very differently, clearly we all came from the same place, the same family. At this link you can participate anonymously and track your ancestor's journey across the planet.
- arandia, on 11/08/2008, -0/+10When I read it, I thought they sequenced Chinese-African Gnomes.
- Tanktunker, on 11/08/2008, -0/+9Yes, stop all scientific progress.
FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND. - Bith8654, on 11/08/2008, -1/+9Uh this isn't Metal Gear, we don't need to worry about FoxDie.
- Duvali, on 11/08/2008, -1/+9or the craving to kill, rape and eat random women?
ohh sorry that's white guys. - Triple007, on 11/08/2008, -0/+6"You are prone to over eating, and have a 84% chance of heart disease."
Damn Human Genome Kit..... - MrTea, on 11/08/2008, -0/+6"or the craving to kill, rape, and dominate different cultures"
fix'd - ScottWC, on 11/08/2008, -1/+7Why isn't it "Asian, African Genomes" or "Chinese, Nigerian Genomes"? Where's the parity? This is a peeve of mine I see all the time and is why so many ignorant people, including Palin, think Africa is a country not a continent. This lumping of all Africa into one is particularly stupid and annoying since as the article hints, the most genetic diversity is in Africa.
Now back to the penis jokes. - inactive, on 11/08/2008, -2/+7That the fact that we all come from the same place means we're all equal in every respect and have the same potential and should be treated consequentially.
Because we come from the same place apes do. In fact, go down the road a little further and we're the same as plants by the same logic (of the "we come from the same place so we're equal" argument).
Then you have genetic similarities, but the amount of genetic similarities doesn't affect the existence of genetic differences or the fact that a tiny genetic difference can result in large physiological differences.
Then all you have to do is point out the existence of important physiological differences between families (ie, a separate family of a genome that shares the same characteristics) to demonstrate that physiological differences (which of course, include the brain and the nervous system) affect human behavior.
And of course, it can be demonstrated that physiological differences do include and affect nearly all aspects of human behaviour, from sexual drive to inquisitiveness, by observing any social animal species. Kids of smart people are usually smart.
So, "we all come from the same place" doesn't change anything about racial tolerance.
I prefer the "there's no point to it and helping is better than hurting" approach.
Plus it can be very easily demonstrated that culture and upbringing play a very large part of human behaviour. But then it's a question of the chicken or the egg. Are genetics responsible for the distinctiveness of cultures or are cultures responsible for the distinctiveness of the genome? (through closed population reproduction).
It's better to argue about equality as a right than to try to justify it with biology. - pstroll, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5That's correct. We are all descended from ostracoderms, the first vertebrates, which emerged during the the Cambrian epoch.
- paintgrl, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5This is so cool. I hope that we can soon find a cure for things like cancer and MS, and who knows what else.
- ptgrogan, on 11/08/2008, -3/+7That's what she said?
- auzziedigger, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4From MorganMghee:
"This project is doing more to break down racial intolerance than any single effort. Although we may all look and act very differently, clearly we all came from the same place, the same family. At this link you can participate anonymously and track your ancestor's journey across the planet."
You might want to read what James Watson has previously written on the subject. He was hounded out of England by intolerant politically correct bully boys for suggesting all races weren't equal.
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Africans_are_less ... - Diggnabbit, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4What underlying argument?
- cyclone219, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4METAL GEAR SOLID FTW
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -1/+5 Since the social scientists keep telling us race doesn't exist and is only a social construct these 2 DNA sequences should be pretty much the same.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -9/+12BRB Printing Myself a black guy!
- octopod42, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Is there a good reason why they're not sequencing women? Is this so they can do Y sequencing?
- fastorment, on 11/08/2008, -3/+6So... is there a gene for a big penis?
- JusTuring, on 11/06/2008, -0/+310x!
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3There are genes for the size of pretty much every bodily attribute, so, yes.
- Akaziel, on 11/08/2008, -1/+4MISTER DUVALI I LIKE TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND AM EASILY OFFENDED BY JOKING ON TEH INTERWEBS! YOUR OFFENSIVE WORDS ARE POLLUTING MY TUBES!
- minuslars, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1I've heard Craig Venter can be a no-***** kind of guy (read: tyrant). He once met a less than enthusiastic employee in an elevator and fired him before they got off.
- inactive, on 11/09/2008, -0/+1By that argument, you and any other person of the same "race" should have the same DNA sequence.
Try again. - ajkrik, on 11/11/2008, -0/+1It is a long-standing and currently very trendy theme that we should try so very hard to all love each other and not be bigots. Our current politics is saturated in this silly notion that if we prove we are "all the same" all bigotry will magically go away. As if bigotry is a product of lack of information. It comes from being a biology that drives animals to survive by turning outsiders into "others" and thereby treating them like a threat.
I can see it now "Genome Proves We Are All the Same - Hatred and Prejudice Disappear."
You want it to go away? Change yourself and leave other people to figure it out for themselves. - inactive, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2It's probably easier to trace the genome back using the Y chromosome (for men) than mitochondrial DNA (for women). But that's just my guess.
- atomic811, on 11/09/2008, -0/+1Some people in the U.S. don't have maps..like in the Iraq...such as.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1 Eventually he cowered and outright lied and said that he was previously wrong even though it's apparent he does not believe in the equality of the races.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -5/+5Too bad the underlying argument is a slippery slope fallacy.
- Schrodinger2, on 11/08/2008, -7/+5remove the penis code and half the brain code and voila. You have a female.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -5/+1 Blacks must have stolen that gene since they seem to be doing most of the killing and raping.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -8/+3MISTER DUVALI I FIND YOUR STATEMENT HIGHLY OFFENSIVE PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM MY WEBSIGHT THANK YOU KIND SIR
- Beautyon, on 11/08/2008, -15/+4So now they can create a bio weapon that can wipe out all the Yorubas and the Hans and leave everyone else alive. No thank you 454 Life Sciences, we don't need yet another E=MC2 'oops it can be used as a weapon too' style revelation.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -17/+3So where's the gene that causes a rabid craving for fried chicken?


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