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- EmmSee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+212Now they have more reasons to rip them apart and study them. This is bad news for turtles!
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -6/+205Eventually they will discover that the only cause of death for turtles is...scientists dissecting them to figure out why they don't die
- kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+125"Living forever's great, but what good is being a turtle if you can't bed Nicole Richie?"
living forever and not once feeling the urge to bed nicole richie - debuggercll, on 10/12/2007, -5/+114You have to cut off it's head and wait for the lightning to get it's power.
- riah, on 10/12/2007, -9/+116...Infinite-age Mutant Ninja Turtles?
- Razster, on 10/12/2007, -7/+93So if by eating the heart of the turtle, will I live forever?
- ceoandpresident, on 10/12/2007, -14/+90Yes, but will they Blend?
- captjc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47"Personally I'm drinking the blood of a thousand virgins and hoping for the best."
So thats why your hanging out on Digg...
/ I keed, I keed - indulgence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41Kidney failure due to old age... Liver failure due to old age...
Your organs become less efficient as you grow older. - ArchieAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Serious question. What can you die of that is considered "old age" and isn't considered a disease?
- cblalock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"Personally I'm drinking the blood of a thousand virgins and hoping for the best."
Digg users beware. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27"So if by eating the heart of the turtle, will I live forever?"
Personally I'm drinking the blood of a thousand virgins and hoping for the best. - thebeltwymonstr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24After 250 years, does the human study the tortoise, or does the tortoise study the human?
- EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@fearless: More accurately, we're all crippleware.
[You have 9,454,567,896,342,981 cellular copies left until your license expires.] - howismydriving, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16They have to live forever! Its turtles all the way down!
- withincontext, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Arrogant turtles. Let's bomb their country!
- captjc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16It is just overused. It has nothing to do with the cross-pollination of memes.
Besides, it this was /., it would be marked -1 redundant
/besides, drlha is just being a dick - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Duh, anyone that has seen the Neverending Story already knows this. Sheesh.
- 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13if you read the article, you would see that it says turtles organs, dont break down or show any signs of aging..
- CanceledCzech, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@FearlessFreep
Yeah, that and Shredder's minions. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I'm sorry to hear you had to discover sex that way.
- Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Heart/other organ failure I suppose. Not entirely sure. =/
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@CanceledCzech
Since when have Shredder's Minions actually caused the death of a turtle? That seems to be the least of their worries :) - nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@StringAnomaly
"Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seriously thought that this is the case for humans as well, and most other living organisms."
Humans age. After a certain point, things start to deteriorate, and the likelihood of something bad happening during any given year becomes greater and greater. A 100 year old individual is far more likely to die within the next year than a 30 year old individual. The claim is that this isn't true for turtles. Lobsters are another example. Older and older lobsters are just bigger versions of younger lobsters. They don't get arthritis, or any other age-related debilitating condition.
That said, nothing can live indefinitely unless its rate of growth slows such that there is a limit on its size as its age approaches ... infinite. An animals mass grows faster than its strength, for instance, and at a certain size, it can no longer lift its own weight. There may be possible exception to this rule - bouyant sea creatures for instance (sponges?). - FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12So we're basically shareware....
- offput, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18What I don't understand is why memes from other sites are automatically dugg down. Why is digg so scared of slashdot memes "infecting" their community that is must resort to such antagonistic behaviour?
- ArchieAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12In researching this question, it seems to me that it comes down to semantics and what one considers the definition of the word "disease". I have seen some definitions that would include organ failure.
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@controlguy That's the point of this article. Turtles don't need telomerase to replicate cells. There is not preprogrammed 'cell death'.
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16TKDWILSON is correct. Humans DO die of old age. Every time a cell replicates it 'uses up' a little bit of the DNAs telomerase. Once there isn't anymore telomerase that cell will not replicate again.
Hence wrinkles, bad hearts, increasing odds of cancer, liver failure, and all of the other fun stuff that comes with aging. - gravylookout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Don't starfish live forever too? Technically they reproduce by splitting into two clones of eachother but wouldn't one be the parent and the other the child? If it has the same DNA is it still the same starfish?
- herrshuster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10what are you whining about...I don't have an account and I read the entire article
- hypnotizd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Here you go:
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.nytimes.com - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"Are you kidding? Wrinkles are caused by the sun not aging."
@LanceHardenburg - That was a joke, right? - EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Anyone interested in aging should watch the presentation by Aubrey de Grey from TED-EU 2005.
Scroll down to "October 2, 2006: Might you live a great deal longer?"
http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/index.cfm?flashEnabled=1 - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Organ failure could be attributed to disease or just old age.
If you develop heart disease as a result of diet, for example, that organ is going to fail due to disease. However, if you don't develop heart disease, eventually your heart will wear out even if you have the proper diet and exercise. - somnus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Nice, Gravylookout just posed a fantastic philosophical question which applies directly to cloning: If you're looking at another lifeform that is you down to the cell, is it you?
- EmmSee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What are you talking about? The article says the organs of the turtles are different and do not break down over time. So you CAN NOT say the same thing about humans.
- keysersoze1234, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6If memory serves, the turtles would actually have to have a special process for repairing DNA if they really can live indefinitely.
You see, whenever your cells replicate, there is telomere degradation.. in effect you lose a little bit of code on the ends. Now, the DNA has a built in buffer region, so it does fine. However, the more times you replicate, the more chances you have of an error, which leads to cancer. Even if you kept a human in a perfect environment on a perfect diet with no danger/mutagens/etc, it would still develop cancer eventually. - DrScott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Turtles live as long as I say they can.
http://www.exoticmeats.com/store/index.php?cPath=24_59&osCsid=80aced3cd8b477cfa2eb364b0dc48f7d - mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14@debuggercll
That is what those turtles did to Chris Lambert career. - Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"The role of the sun cannot be overestimated as the most important cause of PREMATURELY aging skin (called photoaging) and skin cancers."
Key word here is PREMATURELY...as in before its SUPPOSED to...
Edit: goatrandy beat me to it - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yeah, but we don't event care. In fact, we don't even care whether or not we care.
Apathetic turtles ftw! - Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6And here's the bugmenot firefox extension if copying and pasting from a website is too much work. http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
- Valarauka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Naturally. Why do you think Shredder is always wanting to dine on turtle soup?
- sporefrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"kinda dumb. humans don't die of old age anymore either. they haven't since like the 70's when the government said no... you have to die of something.. start doing autopsies. if humans didn't die of diseases and stuff. we'd live forever too.. silly"
Oh absolutely, that's why average mortality rate increases /exponentially/ as humans grow older. Clearly age has no affect on human death rate, or we'd see some sort of pattern where more humans die more often at older ages. Just like turtles, see? Oh wait, NO THEY DON'T!
Becoming more susceptible to disease, cancer, and other methods of death are a result of the decay of our bodily processes and cells >.> - therobd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4People don't like Leonardo, Michelangelo, Raphael, and Donatello, I guess.
- ricree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@somnus
"If you're looking at another lifeform that is you down to the cell, is it you?"
No, that situation already exists in the form of identical twins. And since we don't consider them one person, I see no reason that we would in the case of cloning. - fleury29, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Serious question. What can you die of that is considered "old age" and isn't considered a disease?"
-ArchieAndrews
Deterioration of cells over time...that sorta thing. Anything that pretty much has to do with time. You heart just stops, not because of disease, but because of cell deterioration. Not saying that you cant die of heart disease. If I'm not mistaken, that's just off the top of my head. I could be completely wrong...so no need to flame me if I am wrong.
"Hmm...I assume that if you didn't get eating, ran over, get a terminal disease, and your bodily organs didn't crapping out, we'd probably live forever too."
-HP844182
lol no kidding. Its not a question of why tho. Its a question how. - banglogic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3FTA: "Scavenger turtles that live in the Ganges River devour human remains, making it possible for devout Hindus to deposit their loved ones’ remains in the waters they deem sacred."
Well, that's just a little disturbing. - maldog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4did anyone see the picture of the snakehead turtle?? I'm freaked out
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