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- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39The clouds are going to get tortured and jailed if they dont do what they say.
- YellowBook, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26I remember the Olympics in Moscow 1980 when the Russians opened the stadium doors to generate a following wind just as the their javelin thrower was about to throw. The Chinese are just taking this on a step futher ;)
- WrecksTXP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"We have an incredible new technology that could control the weather. It could end droughts, poverty, hunger and more!!! Lets use it to make sure it's not cloudy during the shot put."
- kevin.gc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Japan has got to be pissed. Is it karma?
- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Looks like China is already controlling the weather - just in other ways...
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16712 - raada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Sweden has the same problem. Most of its pollution comes from other countries...
- HoldenDapen0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Do you have a link or documentation of this? Im really interested :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7cloud seeding is limitedly effective but will help clear some clouds. The us miltary has experimented with it for clear bombing runs.
Nothing humans can do to stop a real weather system, even a small storm. - ianweir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Just watch, somebody is gonna bribe these Beijing Weather Modification Office people to literally make it rain on somebody's parade.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6No, just a good way to cause a hurricane on the other side of the planet.
- davidv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hmm
http://www.sok.se/inenglish/moscow1980.4.18ea16851076df63622800011020.html
The Lenin Stadium was probably the place where the boycott was noticed the most. No Americans or West Germans, but there were still six world records. There was a lot a talk about how the Russians cheated. It was said that the gates to the stadium were opened whenever it was time for one of the Russian javelin throwers, that the officials in the pole vault could be recognized as Russian coaches and that legitimate jumps were ruled out in the triple jump. But a lot of what was said had been brought up as a result of the politics surrounding the Games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Summer_Olympics
Although approximately half of the 24 countries which boycotted the 1976 Summer Olympics participated in these, the Games were disrupted by another, even larger, boycott led by the United States followed by 64 other countries in protest at the 1979 Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Eighty nations did participate - the lowest number since 1956. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've always wondered why they don't seed clouds in the middle-east? They could use the rain?
- raada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The Russian used to do it for May 1st, so it would be nice weather for the parade... I dont think it worked very well and the stuff they sprayed out was not very healthy...
- Digital2k6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4China gets scarier by the day. The country is growing be leaps and bounds on the backs of a billion 3rd class citzens being treated as slaves. The world will cheer on this accomplishment as their people suffer.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3this was experimented with in the US back in the 60's in an attempt to lessen the impact of hurricanes.. it was never determined whether or not the cloud seeding was successful..
edit: wiki article on it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3leave it to the chinese to spray large amounts of chemicals into the air in order to alter the weather.
- angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3OBKenobi
"No, just a good way to cause a hurricane on the other side of the planet."
In a digression, I read Tom Bearden's website (http://www.cheniere.org/index2.html) and interestingly (probably due to the closed nature of our weather systems), he states exactly that via scalar electromagnetic interferometry. The theory is you take "weather" from one place and put it in another via the manipulation of scalar electromagnetic waves. His website isn't at all easy to navigate and is a bit of an eyesore, but after reading it I had a few burning questions about weather engineering. He sounds... well... kinda crazy but I live in the part of Australia where these "energy weapon tests" were allegedly done and felt I should know more about it or the theory behind it. Coincidentally, from around that time, we've had the driest winters on record. I don't remember the events, but I would've been only 13-14 yrs old at the time so I might not have really been noticing. - Mac2492, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Yes, and that person will probably play "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head", just to rub it in. ^.^
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2don't worry i was in athens 6 month before the last games, i was amazed they ever got it all finished.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4They shoulda routed the pollution to Taiwan. Force the dissidents to come back to the Mainland.
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Rain Rain Go Away Come Back.... how about next thursday?
- angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Effective radiated power estimates for this type of facility abound, and range up to three terrawatts at a single station. For some eye opening perspective, a terrawatt of electrical power is 1,000,000,000,000 watts."
Source: http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=60&start=0&category_id=&parent_id=0&arcyear=&arcmonth=
This is an estimate of the power usage of the HAARP and other similar facilities, which is an unimaginable amount of power.
"We anticipate that four of the diesel generators, producing approximately 10 MW of prime power, will allow operation of the final, completed facility at its maximum rated RF power level of 3.6 MW"
Source: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/power.html
This extract is from the HAARP site itself and may (or may not) be closer to the mark. Still 3.6 MW is a LOT of power. It's interesting to note that the facility now has 180 RF antennae as opposed to the original 48.
The pdf (in the weather wars link above) may be slightly alarmist but the author points out areas of the US that seem to have anomolous and "non-natural" levels of seismic activity. The volcanic targets are listed as Mount Rainier, the Yellowstone Caldera and the Long Valley Caldera. The activity is very small, but the net effect is to speed up the geological event of massive volcanic activity on the North American mainland. It also highlights other areas of concern, like the "deliberate" shifting of the Juan de Fuca tectonic plate - again not directly with a single focused EM beam, but slowly with small amounts of energy at a time. These areas are all near, or within effective distance to highly populated places, which is why if one erupts the effects will be felt by many. An interesting, yet very frightening read. - crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Not to worry. There is an actual UN resolution banning use of weather control in times of war.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/enmod/text/environ2.htm - cybersamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this seems like exactly the kind of thing that causes armageddon when we mess around with it
- angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ooops
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@angryredplanet
It would probably take a great deal of energy? I think it is theoretically possible, but not practically.
A good example is storm activity caused by periods of heightened solar activity. There you have proof that you can indeed change the weather electromagnetically.
Could the same thing be done on a smaller scale? I really don't know how much energy it would take to do that. Maybe these people do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP - Zaxcomp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Texas also leaves this mostly unknown subject right in the open. Most people on the street would call you crazy for talking about weather modification, but here it is right in the open.
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/WW/ymwed.html - fluffyturtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They already do cloud seeding in Texas and have for a while now.
- Chairmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Reminds me of Back to the Future 2.
"Too bad the mail isn't as efficient as the postal service" - Right after the rain stops precisely on time.
But yeah, this is nuts, I'm pretty sure this is bad and can royally mess up the atmosphere some day. - twingod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3just in case you didn't already know... http://weatherwars.info
governments manipulate the weather all over the world. Hardly anyone takes notice, except for people that are obsessed with jet trails in the sky and such. - andrewmp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Maybe China caused Katrina
- g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1In the future it may not be so easy to call people kooks when they have hurricane conspiracy theories.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This is actually really scary if it works 100% and gets into the wrong hands...weather wars?
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Next they'll use it to take over the world.
- CasualNinja, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The US have been spraying "stuff" into out atmosphere for years in the form of CHEMTRAILS. The effects of this spraying has yet to be determined. It is not surprising that another country is also spraying stuff into their atmosphere.
- msbeckman, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4To think this stuff actually works... well its cool that they can do thise I guess, sort of strange, but hey dugg!
"In soviet russia, coat wears you!" - mikev, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5***** with the temperature in a large environment: one step closer to global warming.
- SquareOne, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Hahaha!! Thats so funny but true. They will ban anyone who doesn't agree with them.
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