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- mage1129, on 10/10/2007, -20/+126Atheism already has a section at the book store, it is called non-fiction.
- breadbin, on 10/10/2007, -5/+98I heartily applaud this. Atheism has been a dirty word for too long. It's about time it was up for discussion in the public square. However I found this line from the article quite amusing:
"A reader actually sent me a photo of this miracle."
The miracle of the atheism display stand. I'm calling oxymoron on that one! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -9/+87In other news, Bush declares Borders Bookstore a terrorist organization
- Zares, on 10/10/2007, -8/+54About time too!
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -6/+35Damn. Maybe it was just me, but I loved watching people get offended when they entered the religious section and would run across "The God Delusion" and other books.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24Borders pissed off a lot of atheists by pulling Free Inquiry from their shelves for printing the Danish cartoons. Christopher Hitchens boycotted them after that. Props for attempting to hug and make up.
- gegtik, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29Things I don't find interesting: your thoughts.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21seriously. ive always found it ironic that i had to look in the "religion/spirituality" section to find the God Delusion. i felt like such a d-bag looking through that shelf.
- gegtik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Yeah Borders is pretty much responsible for establishing whether certain movements are religions
- bagboyrebel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20yeah, how dare they organize their bookstores so that people can find what they are looking for...
- Scynet, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21Because the Diggers want it to be? Because the topic is important to them? Why do you care?
- redwards, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Or just so that atheists don't have to look like morons searching for an atheism book in the religion section.
James Randi's books are in the 'new age' section at Barnes and Noble. What a travesty. - ddxChrist, on 10/10/2007, -6/+23A lack of belief does not constitute a religion. Is not collecting stamps a hobby of mine?
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -5/+21Because we're censored everywhere else by religious people.
- ohthedaysofyore, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16No.
- skjede, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Usually they keep books like that under "science". At least, B&N does.
- galtenberg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Now how about taking philosophy out of the religion/metaphysics section?
- redwards, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Yes, and lets put the science books under new-age, while we're at it, since they tend to counter each other. Wait, what?
- badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Funny, when I bought The God Delusion it was in the science section.
- redwards, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17That's what we sly atheists call a 'joke'.
- TomFrost, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15That's a little strong. Sure, there are evangelistic atheists (especially on digg) who make your life hell if you're a christian, but calling them "THE ones who hate people..." is very false, as it doesn't take much looking to find a so-called christian who's just as unaccepting of atheism. And it's all just dumb, all these arguments. People are always going to believe what they've decided to believe, and neither christianity or atheism will ever go away. There will be die-hards in both groups, and they're best ignored.
- JD52, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Oh yeah.... because Christians never kill themselves.
- otakushark, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13CORRECTION:
Atheism: There is no compelling evidence for God, therefore there's no more reason to believe there is one than any other mythical deity throughout history. Live with it.
Agnosticism: I just don't know.
Religion: I believe in God because this old book and my mommy and daddy and the preacher all say he exists and if you don't agree then you're evil and going to Hell forever. So there. - scottious, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Ummm, I go to Borders all the time and they've had an atheism section for a while now.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+19Why do you hate the pursuit of knowledge?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Some people are passionate and fight to prevent their country from falling into the hands of the fundamentalists. They fight to get atheism accepted as normal. If you are annoyed by that, too ***** bad.
- scrambled, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I think we're witnessing a movement. Atheism has never been this popular in America, and it looks like the pendulum could finally be swinging in our direction.
- Zreitan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10ahem, the ground you're standing on and the universe you live in is a whole lot more proof for Atheism then some silly made up book. And when i say made up i mean stolen and reused material.
- bagboyrebel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11so not believing in unicorns is a religion too? how about not believing in faeries, or gnomes, or leprechauns? just because you can't prove/disprove something doesn't make it a valid belief. By your logic, I could claim that the earth is actually controlled by a giant invisible duck, but since you can't disprove it it must be a valid claim.
- iamorlando, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Nooo, what is the world coming to!!! If we go any further people might start to think for themselves! /sarcasm
- IamBobX, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12As a Christian, I fully support this idea.
- sjm20k, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15the issue with any debate is that both sides cant be right. logic points to atheism as being the right answer so most logical minded individuals flock in that direction. traditionalists and your average joe will simply believe what he has been raised to believe or sees those around him believing. to respond to WestonP: lord of the rings fans have books and gatherings too, does that make lord of the rings a religion, no, it makes it something people are interested in. i prefer to think i don't delude myself with religion, and in this way (and i'll come right out and say it), i feel that i am more right than any religious person. it seems like most people with a good ***** detector will always flock towards the atheistic argument. just remember, opposing sides can't both be right.
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The Christians, like your typical Mrs. Over-Weight-Soccer-Mom. They are the funniest, because they start huffing and puffing, contemplating on whether or not to remove the books and put them in another section, but too scared to even touch the books for fear of someone thinking they are going to buy it.
- Pake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The amount of historically correct data in the bible is equivalent to that of the book "300." Sure, some ***** did happen, but most what was written did not. The difference is "300" was just soooooo much more awesome.
- Vicissidude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Atheism is a viewpoint about god, but it certainly is not a religion itself. Atheism has no tenets, no dogma, no doctrine, no moral code, and no SET of beliefs to pull from - as such, it is not a religion.
In fact, when someone says they are an atheist that only tells you one belief they lack, but it tells you nothing about the beliefs they actually possess. You can be an atheist and not believe in evolution. You can be an atheist and not believe in humanism. You can be an atheist and believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, astrology, tarot cards, crystals, and any other sort of superstition.
When an atheist tells you what they believe, that is a result of their personal opinion resulting from one of these other belief systems, such as humanism or evolution. The atheist may subscribe to humanism or evolution because they don't believe in god, but humanism and evolution do not require atheism. There are Christian humanists. And there are Christians who believe in evolution. - thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Opinion.... Author's last name.... author's first name
If all else breaks down, there's the Dewey Decimal System. - Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Wrong, because us atheists have evidence. The only evidence you have is a somewhat historically accurate storybook that was never meant to be taken literally.
"Neither side can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are right, hence it takes faith to believe either."
Can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that gravity exists? Long story short: No, but there's sufficient evidence to believe it does. - DavidYeah, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Yeah, but we don't show up at your door at five in the morning.
On digg, we show up due to democratic process. Digg up your favorite religious articles if you want. Or bury the athiest ones. Or go create your own digg.com clone like the conservatives did with conservapetia when they realised that the reality presented in wikipedia doesn't conform to their ideology and never would. - nattisfaction, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I've worked at a Borders for 3 years and for at least that long there has been an atheism section. It usually hovers around a couple of shelves in size and is located in the religion section after the Christian religions.
This endcap is actually just a new piece of marketing that went up about 4 months ago. All Borders stores are required by corporate to place this endcap, so if you don't see it up call your local store and ask for the name and number of the district manager (this speeds things up dramatically). You'll be amazed how fast it will go up then. - Vicissidude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8It's hard for atheists to exist peacefully when they've been hunted, burned, and killed by Christians, Muslims, and other believers thousands of years due to being heretics.
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10being an athiest is nothing like being a christian. look at the religious whackos in kansas who stopped teaching science in favor of fairy tale stories. religion is anti-knowledge and has taken an anti-knowledge stance throughout history. look at all the religious lobbying groups in washington and all the religious nuts in congress and senate who are trying to get roe over-turned, get creationism in every classroom, ban porn and strip clubs, hell just turn on the ***** tv and see what religion has done to free speech, where in america (supposedly the free-est country) you cant even hear a swear word on cable (that you pay for) yet in every other country even basic cable isnt censored, you get true free speech (not the watered down american version that masquerades around as free speech) and even nudity. theyve got people like fred phelps on their side spreading his hate (although not too many of them admit that they support him i know many christians hold the same views as him against gays from first hand accounts). ***** dude the list goes on and on, seriously if you dont think this is a problem then you are blind. there is so much that christians are doing wrong in this country
i remember going on a roadtrip through the midwest last year and in and driving through Pennsylvania or ohio or one of those random middle states to get to NYC i saw countless signs and billboards stating that youre going to hell if you dont follow the ten commandments or love christ etc. (dont believe me i have the pictures to prove it). ive never seen any athiest billboards condemning people who are religious. - Fafnir43, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Er... Not sure about Hitchens (never heard of him), but I'm damn sure Dawkins never advocated forcing believers to become atheists. Or blamed 9/11 on religious people. Or said that religious people weren't truly American. Or tried to get government funding for atheistic initiatives. Or really did any of the things that makes Christian fundamentalist whackjobs like Falwell such wankers.
He insults religion quite a lot, I'll grant you, but that's about it. If all Falwell had ever done was insult atheism, I wouldn't have had a problem with him. - Scynet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I don't see why, considering nothing mystical, supernatural or divine is going on that science can't seem to explain. We've figured out some truly amazing laws and theories about life after hard work, and it's getting more and more obvious that we're not going to find miracles any time soon either. So why would one believe in something divine? Give me a bush that lits up without any natural reactions by chemicals or other known forces, and I'll revise my statement.
- danielsan1701, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I have to agree. I consider myself to be athiest. Not an Athiest.
- otakushark, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8No need for prayer--people will take care of it. Just like they always have.
- ruley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7the Da Vinci Code should be put under non-fiction according to that logic. the bible is not(usually) put in the non-ficiton section of large bookstores because it IS historically inaccurate. it is put in the religion section
- Vicissidude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Probability points to atheism, just like in the cases of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
- biggrz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Actually, books being inanimate objects and all, don't believe in anything to begin with. For this very same reason they won't be found 'talking about the problems with religion' either. However, as you may have noticed if you've actually BEEN to a bookstore, books on the same topic often get their own section.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Since you know nothing about atheism, you are in essence an idiot. You should look up Epicurus, Hume, Kant, Dawkins, etc.
- otakushark, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's just a way of organizing them. Do "Non-Fiction" "Reference" "Travel" and "Sci-Fi" sections make the books they include "religious"?
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