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- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -16/+264I treat animals with the same respect they treat each other.
Pass the butter. - samolition, on 11/14/2007, -9/+108So do cows, kinda missing the 'blow' here.
- bungoman, on 11/14/2007, -19/+99So does every other animal I eat. Like I care.
- dinostabOMG, on 11/12/2007, -5/+72YOU don't boil cows alive. I'm running the tub right now.
- cgruber, on 11/14/2007, -5/+70It's the sound of delicious.
- logandr, on 11/14/2007, -12/+72Recipe for Lobster Scrambled Eggs:
break four eggs into a frying pan
place live lobster in frying pan
turn up the heat
the thrashing lobster scrambles the eggs - Sedako, on 11/14/2007, -4/+49That sound is gas escaping from their exoskeleton. Crustaceans do not have vocal cords.
- csisop, on 11/14/2007, -13/+56Only a blow to people who care about animals pain.
- Lax32, on 11/14/2007, -6/+48Good. Now we can torture them until they cough up the names of where all of their friends are hiding.
- MasterChi, on 11/14/2007, -19/+54This confuses me. If someone posted a video of a dog or a cat being boiled alive there would be an uproar but now with another animal (a lobster) you all are just saying pass the butter. Geesh, you people confuse me.
- vault, on 11/14/2007, -7/+40FTA: "Richard Chapman, from the University of Utah's pain research centre in Salt Lake City, stressed that most animals possessed receptors which responded to irritants. "Even a single-cell organism can detect a threatening chemical gradient and retreat from it," he said. "But this is not sensing pain."
- cgruber, on 11/14/2007, -5/+38Who the ***** eats buttered cat/dog? It better be served as General Tso's Kitten or Noodles 'n' Poodles.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -2/+34When gas escapes from my exoskeleton, the "Eeeeeee" sound comes from my wife.
- InfinitySnatch, on 11/14/2007, -19/+47This does not bother me.
- stephant, on 11/12/2007, -2/+28Of course you don't boil cows alive. That would be a waste of a cow. You inject them with cheese and deep fry them. You just have to be sure their bowels don't release in the hot oil.
- onestrawplz, on 11/14/2007, -13/+38pain is the most basic feeling. even a rudimentary nervous system would allow for a pain response. of course lobsters feel pain.
- pintomp3, on 11/12/2007, -0/+25as long as you eat them.
- LosingTheFight, on 11/12/2007, -8/+32Seriously? Who the hell pays for this kind of study.
Breaking: Being punched in the face hurts.
Now give me $100 for my study. - latrosicarius, on 11/12/2007, -0/+23Lobsters and crabs are in the phyllum Arthropoda. Taxonomically, they are of the same level of advancement as insects. These kinds of creatures are so rudimentary in their mental capacity that it can be argued that they do not have the ability to think or feel. Everything they do is based upon a stimuli-response "instinct", a.k.a pre-programmed instructions.
When an ant detects food, it will behave predictably. When an ant detects a threat, it will behave predictably. When an ant loses a leg, it will modify its behavior in a similarly predictable manor. An ant's behavior can even be simulated by a computer program.
That said, human behavior can be predicted as well, but only generally, and there is a much greater degree of variation due to free will and the ability to ignore instinct and make unique decisions. - computergod, on 11/14/2007, -1/+24Generally killing a steer means going through this process:
1: Stun it with a blow to the head (they use these pneumatic gun things I think).
2. Stick a meat hook through its back leg(s) and hoist it up.
3. Slit it's throat and let it's heart do the work of draining the blood.
They tend to wake up from all the blood rushing to their head after they are hoisted up. It's not a pretty sight seeing them thrashing around on the hooks with blood spewing out of their necks. I wouldn't exactly call it humane since there are much quicker ways to kill them and the stunning part is there mostly to protect the workers from the steer. - kinseyincanada, on 11/12/2007, -9/+29you don't boil cows alive, the majority of the time cows, pigs, chickens etc.. are killed in humane ways.
- gudnbluts, on 11/14/2007, -12/+32It's pretty simple really. Lobsters make crap pets but good food. They also barely have a brain. Which bit don't you follow?
- Rev0lver, on 11/14/2007, -5/+24I'm not going to lie - I laughed a little.
- thcobbs, on 11/14/2007, -5/+23Oh, that's great.
I love the idea of my lobster screaming its head off minutes before I eat it. It makes the carnal pleasure of mastication all that much more sweet. - gudnbluts, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19I do lobster all the time. They don't scream. Occasionally you'll get the whistle of escaping steam, but that's it.
- mrwiggl3s2, on 11/12/2007, -2/+20because theres only 2 types of animals
humans and other - Gunsotsu, on 11/14/2007, -15/+31Let them scream and pass the butter!
- rr525356, on 11/12/2007, -0/+16You want to shoot the lobster in the head first.
- noumuon, on 11/12/2007, -0/+15wait, what? that's the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. if a lobster dies slowly, it secretes adrenaline and the meat becomes tough and less tasty. that's it. that's why you throw them into the water head first; they die almost instantly. of course, lobster spoils rather quickly... so watch out for food poisoning if you plan on keeping them dead and uncooked.
- iceman0113, on 11/14/2007, -6/+20FTA: "The claim will add weight to campaigns by animal rights organisations which protest against lobsters being boiled alive."
Lobsters are cockroaches of the sea, so any animal rights group protecting is in essence protecting cockroaches.... - insomniac8400, on 11/12/2007, -8/+22Can anyone explain why it would matter if an animal feels pain before killing it and eating it?
- imnojezus, on 11/14/2007, -6/+19Mmmm... tasty agony.
Seriously though, if you feel bad, there are quicker ways to kill a lobster, or you can put it to sleep first with a short stint in the freezer. - Wrathernaut, on 11/12/2007, -0/+13Similar recipes can be used to have your cat clean out your toilet bowl.
- MadOgre, on 11/12/2007, -1/+14No, that doesn't work on lobster... but there is the technique of cutting it through the head with a large butcher knife, splitting the spinal cord and brain. The downside to that is that it allows all the juice to escape and your lobster just isn't as tasty.
No, I'm not even kidding. Go to YouTube and you will find video's of this... I saw it on a Gordon Ramsey and Jeremy Clarkson video. Gordon does this... but you can see the lobster flails out and gets all twitchy. At least it's faster than a dunk in the boil.
Look... tasty animals have to be killed before we eat them... either before cooking or during cooking. We might not like it - but at least they taste fantastic.
- karel747, on 11/13/2007, -0/+13That's the point. Reacting to a stimulus is not the same as "suffering" or feeling pain as we humans conceptualize it. The whole debates is based on semantics.
- MacEnvy, on 11/13/2007, -1/+14The freezer works better. 10 minutes in there and their metabolic rate is significantly lowered, but the meat won't freeze.
- inactive, on 11/12/2007, -6/+19I agree. That's why I enjoy killing humans.
- nizzy1115, on 11/12/2007, -1/+13"Even a single-cell organism can detect a threatening chemical gradient and retreat from it," he said. "But this is not sensing pain."
- emjaymj, on 11/13/2007, -1/+13No tasty ones anyways
- unpolloloco, on 11/12/2007, -1/+13plants also feel pain http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/1998/A/ ...
so i guess we just need to stop eating plants or animals............oh wait......... - taquitohater, on 11/13/2007, -0/+12Also if they're so complex then they should have evolved out of being so damned delicious. What kind of survival strategy is that? I'd like to know who thought that would be a good idea.
- nakile, on 11/14/2007, -13/+25You think? They would always go "Eeeeeeeee..." when I I saw them put into the boiling pot.
- f4nt0m4s, on 11/14/2007, -20/+32The lobster screaming as I boiled it alive didn't give that away...
Hey, I still eat chicken, cow and pigs and I'm pretty sure they feel pain too. I'm sorry, but as a member of PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) I'm going to have to bury every hippy that posts some anti-lobster eating crap here. - consoneo, on 11/13/2007, -4/+15Easiest way is to put your Lobsters in the fridge for a while.... they go into a catatonic state, then you cook them straight from the fridge.
- Hickeroar, on 11/12/2007, -6/+17Yes
- botvis, on 11/14/2007, -3/+14It's more than just 'pain'.
Pain can be defined as a reaction by the organism to tissue damage, or the conscious mental agony Humans (and probably other higher vertebrates) suffer from that reaction. Plants react to damage. Ants react to damage. Plants and Ants most probably don't suffer.
Pain =/= Suffering. - inactive, on 11/12/2007, -0/+11I wonder how many vegans will starve themselves after finding that out.
- xJudahx, on 11/14/2007, -0/+11You would have to do it immediately before cooking. The main reason they and crayfish are cooked alive it to be sure you don't get sick when eating them.
If you've every eaten crayfish, you know that if the tail is straight, don't eat it cause they were dead when cooked. - noumuon, on 11/12/2007, -0/+11that's why you throw the lobsters into the boiling water head first. it kills them almost instantly. if you don't do this, they release adrenaline and the meat becomes tough.
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