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- flippinjeremy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20It's pretty awesome that blood from 4 people could save thousands of lives. I love modern medicine ..... dugg.
- knulpm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Mohinder?
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11burried flippinjeremy for stating the obvious.
- Zique, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Yay for evolution and modern medicine!
- Wade, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@tbeseda
It's funny that 28 Weeks Later's cure / immunity for the rage virus was most likely inspired by certain women in Africa who are carriers of AIDS but are otherwise unaffected by it. - dattaway, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6But these are people who's cases were severe enough to be admitted to the hospital.
I live in the zip code were the West Nile virus first hit in the Midwest. I had all the symptoms, but made it without calling 911. I was young enough to not have required medical diagnosis like the older people in the neighborhood. Many people will get this type of flu, but never even know they had it. They might end up getting symptoms so mild, they could carry the antibodies for life. We are constantly evolving in a biological system. - foolfromhell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4@darkhero
I believe the term is
"dibs".
In which case, I call dibs.
@linkedlust
0+(-2)= -2 - tbeseda, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Seems like the stuff of fiction: like "28 Weeks Later"...
- Barryke, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Nitrodist is right. Newsvalue? Nada. I've got a headline for you:
1) If humans avoid bears more, there would be less human victims.
2) In other news, building a 1:1 scale bridges of spagetti requires large and specially crafted spagetti strands, unheard of in science today.
3) Also, 1 - 1 is very much not 1 due to math circumstances.
4) Spongebob is very much fun.
5) People who can't spell or use gramatics vvell, are not to be taken seriously, a recent study (by me) points out. - imacashew, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5snoozfest..this is how they find the cure to pretty much every other virus. Not to mention the bird flu is so much less serious than the media would like to make it. It was pretty much just a matter of time. Now the bird flu is even more of a joke.
- jkizzle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3considering the amount of time and money that goes into the annual flu vacinations, i would think this actually IS a big deal. Imagine how many seniors would die every year without the flu vaccine. figuring this one out is even more important because it could practically eradicate the bird flu in humans, as it does not (at least yet) mutate.
- xtraa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I thought the bird flu was a panic hoax made by Tamiflu Roche stockholder Cheney and friends?
At least I wonder where all the scores of infected went. - itdood, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So this will help if and when H5N1 mutates enough to be virulent, at which point, the antibodies will no longer recognize H5N1 because of said mutation? I doubt it. The media just can't let this boogie man go.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You mean like antibodies??
Now, if we could also figure out WHY their immune system was able to adapt so quickly.... THAT would be useful info. - jodokast, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@repubicker,
The reason it has killed so few people is because the virus is not transmissible from human-to-human. But it only takes one victim to mutate the virus into something that is. The Spanish flu began the same way, then a WW1 soldier got the virus from some farm animal, then it mutated, then within the first year...50 million people dead.
@catalysis,
RTFA, this is not about a vaccine. It's about a method of protection against the virus / treatment for those who already contracted it. - tvh2k, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I have a total respect for the researchers who work on this stuff. It's amazing how far medicine has come in only a few decades.
- MadDogIIC, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It depends on the binding recognition site of the antibodies, the same receptor is mutated than it certainly would make the potential passive immunotherapy useless. We have been collecting anitbody samples from HIV patients for years but they're non-neutralizing because the gp120 receptor is so easily mutated, any antibodies against it are useless in therapy. However a couple months ago, scientists did identify a conserved protein which so far has been a good target for antibody therapy in mice. The M2 protein is an ion channel found in all strains of orthomyxo viruses, it is the best target for a rapidly mutating RNA virus. This was reported in the CDC's emerging infectious disease journal, http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/13/3/426.htm?s_cid=eid426_e
And might I also say, this journal article would never pass in a real journal, there's no literature research, controls, or presentation of hard data. The news media should really choose better sources of info for their stories. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@thcobbs
Buried because I've never seen Lost and you burying a comment I found insightful. - jkizzle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2very true, the treatment will likely only need to be applied to at risk seniors and babies
- dbalaski, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Not exactly a new approach -- to quote from the article:
This approach is called “passive immunotherapy,” and more crude forms of the approach have long been used to protect against certain viruses. Before hepatitis A vaccines, for example, antibody-containing shots were common for tourists heading to developing countries.
Modern medicine gets its thanks from being able to isolate the correct antibodies - tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, isn't that the article itself? I mean, I doubt that it was actually conducted this way; it's just the write up for the masses.
- tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Do you know what this is due to?
- Barryke, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They didn't adapt really quickly, they're not that much Borg.
These people just came equiped with the correct defense mechanism for this attack on their body.
All hail his noodly appearance for touching these heroes.
Hmm ..I wonder if future historians will ever get sick of all the spagetti references in this online era.. WWFSMD? - tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@dark
Do you blame him? Roche seems like a great investment if you bet on a bird flu epidemic in the near future. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7This might be the most obvious story I've ever read. Antibodies from survivors!? Genius!
- Hawkeye2, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Brits have been sucessful, they have imported the virus to the EU and West, thanks again phukin brits.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@joshshu
That "bird"/flu shot is called "Tamiflu" and it's manufactured by Roche - the company that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld owns $5 million shares of. - glitch47, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1
let's hope Begbie doesn't try to eat them. - joshshu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1hehe, exactly they just wanted to sell that vaccine that contain bird flu virus
- Ottawa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1
We never thought Minnesota would be the home of West Nile Virus, or Dengue Fever - but now we are. There's a white paper explaining the coming plague of Avian Influenza (I was a youngun when the Swine Flu first hit) and http://www.bdgpartners.com/whitepapers.htm
Ick. - geekchic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3The vampires will be pleased.
- vulapine, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Mutant Healing Factor
Like Wolverine. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Does this remind anyone else that V is for Vendetta?
- loquax, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Look, I am usually the last person to cry "the sky is falling." I've just talked with too many friends in the medical field and seen too much in the news (PBS specifically) to think this is anything other than a serious threat. Anything anyone finds to lesson the deaths that will be coming is fine by me. Dugg for keeping the public mind on this virus.
- catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Well hey, now they can make a vaccine for a virus that is barely even pathogenic to humans. Of course, if it does become virulent, the vaccine won't work but by then Time will have already sold enough magazines, so what's the problem?
- darkhero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1dips on blood.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Bird flu .......hahahahahaha ......what has it killed a grand total of 6 people this year. what a croc of *****. Regular flu and choking kill more ***** people. I wish everyone would quit buying into this fearmongering *****.
- Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Don't hold your breath for this in the US.. Bush will somehow decide it's wrong and include it with stem cell research etc... and tell you to pray for a cure instead....
- 1dog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0How do you get bird flu? Does a chicken have to sneeze on you?
- kushed, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2This is why I always wanted to donate my blood for research. I am not wolverine but my wounds and injuries do heal rather quickly, according to my physician, almost twice as fast as average person.
- flymolo2k, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1It is a crock of *****. I cant believe i still hear about the "bird flu".
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Now we can save Molly Walker!
- flippinjeremy, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1dugg thcobbs for making me laugh
- MasteRR, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1Blocked all 3 of you for being idiots.
- flippinjeremy, on 10/11/2007, -13/+3dugg for Heroes reference :)
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