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- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -14/+90In the rest of the world, pyramids like that are called "hills".
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29They're hills. Natural hills. Not pyramids at all.
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21More pictures of yon hill are in wikipedia entry for the town of Visoko:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1973_Visoko.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ilustracija.jpg
Don't miss the entry on "Bosnian Pyramids"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramids
"Semir Osmanagić's claims, widely reported in the mass media, have been challenged by a number of experts, who have accused him of promoting pseudo-scientific notions and damaging archaeological sites with his excavations. Penn State University Professor Garrett Fagan is quoted as saying "They should not be allowed to destroy genuine sites in the pursuit of these delusions[...] It’s as if someone were given permission to bulldoze Stonehenge to find secret chambers of lost ancient wisdom underneath.""
Coordinates for Google earth for the "pyramid": 43°58'40.41"N 18°10'31.99"E
It's immediately adjacent to the town of Visoko.
The take home message: IT'S A HILL! - axox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Read the article.
The author starts with the hype and then explains why these are likely a natural phenomenon and not man-made. - ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The "pyramid" is a giant hoax carried out by a con artist. Sadly, real medieval sites may be destroyed by this hack before real archaeologists actually get to explore them, very sad.
- VeryBoredNow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Selam Alejkum,
I am from bosnia. We burried our grandfather there. It's just a sweet looking hill with tunels.
We thought it would be cool to give him a pharao type burrial. We got all the little neighborhood kids
involved. My older uncle even dressed up like Cleopatra.
.... kinda sad how bored we are down there. - gypsyjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This story is as old as the hills. Or pyramids, take your pick.
- LarianLeQuella, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7From Professor Parker: "In this site they have a fabulous natural phenomenon and the danger is that the people and the country could become a laughing stock if the site continues to be interpreted in this way."
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Old and bogus.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9And how do you lose something of that size in the first place?
/gotta be a hill... - isemism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6BREAKING! This just in: Ancient pyramid found East of Portland, Oregon
http://unrnet.seismo.unr.edu/Aerials/Mt-Hood-zoom.jpg - epicera, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The researcher explains all of the natural phenomena, including the occurence of concrete slabs, in the article.
The title of this story is pretty misleading... yes they are pyramids I suppose... and sure they're ancient, but the article concludes with stating that it's a completely natural geological phenomena, not manmade pyramids... so why name the article "Ancient pyramids discovered in Bosnia" when it should really read "Myth debunked, pyramids turn out to be molehills". - widman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@account please read the article, both pages. It ends on the better side.
- isemism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ Ghostal: This story was posted on The Register yesterday. RTFA, not the comments.
- Kale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ZOMG, another one found in Tennessee!!
http://www.tellthetruthtravel.com/images/Memphis/pyramid.jpg - rationalist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The Bosnian who went up a hill but came down a pyramid.
- donnyburnside, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6This is a very old story and like mentioned above... They're just hills.
- johnnyzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dugg inaccurate - the interview culminates with this statement :
"In this site they have a fabulous natural phenomenon and the danger is that the people and the country could become a laughing stock if the site continues to be interpreted in this way."
The claims of it being a Pyramid are not related to this article, so the headline is wrong. - michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I thought this was debunked last year and the guy was proved to be a fraud.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5oh come on. wasn't this dismissed on digg before. click the 2nd link in the article. it's obviously a mountain. it's like saying K2 is an ancient pyramid.. pure nonsense.
- msmcd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The publication from the Archaeological Institute of America has featured a couple of articles about the "pyramids" and the "archaeologist" that is making the claims:
http://www.archaeology.org/0607/abstracts/bosnia.html
In this update posted on their website, they follow the ebb and flow of the pyramid story, and also discuss the experts that Osmanagic sites. Basically the whole thing is a fraud. The Egyptian expert is a fraud, and other experts (if they are real experts) have disavowed any association. Finally, UNESCO is also making a statement about the pyramids and Osmanagic's "pseudoarchaeological claims."
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/update.html#update - Ewige, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google maps: (not hi-res)
http://maps.google.com/?om=1&ie=UTF8&z=14&ll=43.97824,18.178082&spn=0.048176,0.080338&t=k - Crazytree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I WANT TO BELIEVE.
- resplence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22 or 3 months is actually plenty of time in digg-time.
- spearce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3maybe becuase a lot of people have just found digg like i have. i wasn't around a year ago.
- Ghostal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How in the world does this get 200+ hits? As one comment points out, the story is over a year old. As many others point out, most archaeologists don't even back this story. Anyway, welcome to the front page (again).
- ichirorabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope this is real just for the fun of it. Far fetched reason for a pyramid that big, is that it was for humans to live through the Ice Age. But keep digging it out, it's the only way to prove true or false.
- RodeoRobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1According to this (*unverified) source, the largest pyramid is in China and is over 1000 feet tall and 5000 years old, and served as the tomb for a Chinese empress.
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question13652.html - Cyrusman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't like people who always claim stories to be dupes, but wasn't this a big story on digg like 2 or 3 months ago?
- reaver, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Looks to me like they're digging up bricks. If there's bricks there, then how are they just hills?
- infinitejones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Dude. They're hills.
- Ghostal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I did read the RTFA (cool). And I RTOriginalFA http://digg.com/general_sciences/Scientists_begin_dig_at_Bosnian_%E2%80%98pyramid%E2%80%99 and this whole thing is a joke, both times.
- iamdan1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One thing that makes me question the authenticity of the Pyramids is that the two pyramids are different styles. One is a triangular pyramid and the other is a stepped pyramid, and it doesn't make any sense that a civilization would build two different pyramids. No other civilization that has built pyramids that I know of have built different styles together.
- grumpyrain, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3And Napa Valley, California
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bliss_XP.jpg
Amazing - JohnP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This reminds me of that underwater site off of Japan. Things look SO man made but lots of people say otherwise.
Experts seem a divided. Why would Egyptologists weigh in on the man made side of things if there wasnt SOME basis?
Has anyone got any up to date info on the sites status? - TheRingmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can anyone find this on Google Earth?
- chrozz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They are naturally made pyramids( the shape). Made by mother nature due to a concrete mixture made in a nearby lake and river system. This causes the hills to appear very pyramidlike.
- msmcd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The publication from the Archaeological Institute of America has featured a couple of articles about the "pyramids" and the "archaeologist" that is making the claims:
http://www.archaeology.org/0607/abstracts/bosnia.html
In this update posted on their website, they follow the ebb and flow of the pyramid story, and also discuss the experts that Osmanagic sites. Basically the whole thing is a fraud. The Egyptian expert is a fraud, and other experts (if they are real experts) have disavowed any association. Finally, UNESCO is also making a statement about the pyramids and Osmanagic's "pseudoarchaeological claims."
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/update.html#update - xister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1WTF?!?! Wrong story, "not all there".....
- JasterMereel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Old old old story... and they're hills.
- pyrator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OT
Going north of here is what looks like a forest fire for anyone messing with Google Earth 44°20'29.49"N 18°16'16.36"E - xcursedx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0although the video is interesting
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5163115220367330351 - sheryy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've read an interesting article on http://www.bosnian-pyramid.net
about the corners of the pyramid. It would be an easy way to proof
quickly the existence, but they dig near the corners but not the
corners. Then they've dug something on the top of it, but not the
top!? I've seen some pictures on that really let me think again about
this whole thing. Every day I believe less in this mystery. - jdj2007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is an extremely interesting and perhaps equally important story. If nothing else, it proves how little we know about the ancient past and that of the Bosnian region in particular. See http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4443738390504296376&hl=en for some video of a large network of tunnels they are currently excavating. Unless this is an elaborate hoax, there was definitely some significant construction at this site for which there is no surviving historical record; and the hills/structures are shaped and positioned in the same very unlikely/unusual way as Egyptian pyramids. We’ve all seen that image from Mars of what seems to be a monument with what looks like a face, but in this case we have much better images and there are three such structures/hills situated exactly like some of the pyramids in Egypt. Admittedly this region of Bosnia has a lot of geometrically shaped hills, so perhaps there is some mix of the man-made and naturally occurring or perhaps it is even entirely natural, but it is definitely worth investigating. The bottom line is the experts are being very stubborn and completely myopic (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing but sometimes a lot of knowledge is even more dangerous). Their claim is that there is no supporting evidence to prove the date of the stones/structures that have been uncovered and no POSSIBILITY that an ancient civilization ever lived in that region capable of building such large structures (the logic being that if there was such a civilization we would have already found artifacts, even though they admit to knowing next to nothing about the region's ancient civilizations such as the Illyrians). The question is simply whether there is a pyramid there (because if there is then there must have been a LOST civilization capable of building it) or just some unknown man-made structures added to a set of very unusual naturally occurring hills. So far there has been no conclusive evidence presented either way, but the experts are not going to help answer that question because they are sure they already know the answer and/or because they are afraid of damaging their reputations by being associated with a hoax or even an honest mistake. Osmanagić’s background doesn’t help but it has provided the motivation for his undertaking. He is a businessman and believer in a link between the pyramids of Eqypt and Latin America, Atlantis, and of course the alien visitors that tie everything together. He is most likely wrong about a lot of his beliefs but again the question is simply whether there is a pyramid there, not whether it was built by or for aliens or whether it proves a link with other regions with similar pyramids. The fact is that civilizations around the world built pyramids (including but not limited to Egypt, Central America, South America, CHINA!!!, France!!, Africa!!, and the Ukraine!!) throughout their history so it would come as no surprise if some lost civilization in this region did the same a little earlier than the biggest (non-Chinese?) ones, on a slightly bigger scale than the biggest ones, or whatever. So I am disregarding the "experts" and eagerly waiting to see if Osmanagić can prove his case. It seems like it should be an easy question to answer but according to Osmanagić it may take several years. If the experts are in fact wrong they will all be very embarrassed and, more importantly, Europe will take it’s rightful place as home of one of the world’s first real civilizations. Otherwise, perhaps Osmanagić is damaging an important historical site (which could be a pretty bad thing) but at least he’s doing something to answer a question that has been asked by people in that region for a very long time. -Josh
- jaznova, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol FTA "examine the evidence..."
45 sec video of some cobblestones
yea, that's convincing - Vacks, on 09/16/2008, -0/+0PIRAMIDA BOSANSKA!!!!!!!!!!one111!!!
- psygnisfive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Your uncle MUST be a queen if he's dressing up as Cleopatra. :p
Queen of the Nile indeed.. - xcursedx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'd like to be optimistic, but.. until I see further proof, or more information on the site I reserve the right to withhold my opinion.
I'd like to see some calculations relating to the sites position, it's alignment with the stars, yadda yadda .....
but all in all it doesn't really matter because whats accepted as fact about the pyramids we know and love is complete BS, they were made far previous to when they are stated as being made, they are not "tombs" as stated and yadda yadda.....
i'm still waiting for goldeneye source to come available...
anyways those are pretty cool hills, i'd like to see where those "tunnels" *cough*rat holes*cough* lead .. lol - xcursedx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0doh they should make the window for editing longer
this is a 21 min video on the subject
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8793763556525341053 - widman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Poster should have stated it's The Register, article summary is wrong. Still dugg.
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