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- Smurph0404, on 08/26/2008, -3/+62The downside: you can only get it by chopping of the heads of other immortals.
- nypix, on 08/26/2008, -3/+55Time to start a rumor about how this protein is contained in semen.
- fx666, on 08/26/2008, -3/+25This article is too scientific for my taste. There is a simpler solution -- join the Church of Scientology and learn how to develop your supernatural abilities to such degree that it does not matter whether you're alive or dead. L. Ron Hubbard has already reached the highest level a human being could reach and he is waiting for you on the other side of the Bridge of Total Freedom. I was able to cover the first half of that Bridge but then I fell from it, but you may have more success in joining LRH. Why did I fell? Because the evil galactic ruler named Xenu the Great pushed me from that Bridge!
- protogenxl, on 08/26/2008, -3/+24There Can Be Only One!
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -4/+22Immortals?!??!?! We shall put them to the test!
- diablo2032, on 08/26/2008, -2/+20There can be only one
- beaverfetus, on 08/26/2008, -4/+18ask any cancer patient how great it is to have cells that won't die in the tightly regulated fashion that cells usually do. Telomeres may contribute to our cells limited capacity to divide and eventual aging process, but they are a huge blockade against cancerous transformation.
You cells are either mortal or cancerous. bummer. Looks like were going to stay mortal. - systmc, on 08/26/2008, -0/+11At first, yeah. But there was a time when "only the rich" could afford dentistry, AC, cars, air travel, computers, and just about every other modern convenience. I'm happy they can afford to pay the initial premium cost - they fund the necessary R&D that leads to a better, more affordable product for everyone else.
- borez, on 08/26/2008, -2/+13Not wanting to spoil the part here but... cells that keep splitting and become immortal when they should have died all have a common name, it's called Cancer.
- masterxxshake, on 08/26/2008, -1/+11this is only a very small step into fully understanding telomeres. I work in a lab where we also have discovered the structure and purpose of several protiens that are involved with telomere production and regulation.
http://dimer.tamu.edu/shippen/ - zantos420, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7www.semensaveslives.com ?
- MisterEX, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7"...hyperactive telomerase could promote uncontrolled cell division and cellular immortality associated with cancer."
Yeahhh, that's bad. - RudeTurnip, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7I always found it funny that the cure for death was cancer and that the cure for cancer was death.
- Andrwmorph, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7Don't forget to mention its good for the teeth!
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6(insert twentieth highlander reference here)
- SkyJedi, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4This protein is active in cancer cells. Its one of the defining characteristics of cancer.
- mstachiw, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4lets see how quickly corporations jump on this bandwagon and exploit it as the next craze... I'll have the Cup O' Christ Venti
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -4/+8They should make a Viagra Protein like that.
- Stevethegreat, on 08/26/2008, -3/+7And? There's no such thing as socialized technology, even in our ancient tribes it were the high ranking members who handled the best technology (hunting tools).
If it was not for the rich to be the first adopters then the poor would never be able to adopt the technology at all. Thank god for the rich paying the inventions' overhead, actually making the tech affordable for everybody eventually.... - floorman56, on 08/26/2008, -1/+5Sooo did any one understand all that? Can I live forever or not? When can I go to the 7-11 and get a bottle of "Live Fer Ever" with my Nos?
- Lone1, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4what if the choice is to die in the regular ways or live to be 200 but constantly fighting off horrible new cancers. give me the robot body plzthanx
- Merendino, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4I wish you the best of luck in the future, you brave soul.
- chmstar, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Fear not, sperm cells beget sperm cells that beget spem cells for millions of years. We will overcome these limitations.
- xero69, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Sounds good in theory but it might be difficult to hide an "immortal erection"
- Charlotte_Web, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Were you in the pool?
- RobotBuddha, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Eh, usually can't cure something without first understanding the mechanism of action. Any news in this area is good news as far as I'm concerned.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6Only the rich would be able to afford this.
- zantos420, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3anyone think we'll see life lengthening benefits from this in our lifetime? would this be able to reconstruct existing telomere? would that make people somehow look younger? i want answers damnit!
- gsiliceo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4One step closer to zombification. Inmortal cells = human bodies survive shotguns shots on the chest.
- Culyt, on 08/26/2008, -1/+31m0rt4l1ze your p3n1s today!
All natural ingredient!
☢ - Zarokima, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2My body doesn't have built-in missiles, machine guns, lasers, or internet directly in my brain. I'll gladly become a cyborg.
- splendic, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Agreed!
Wanna live forever, and will do it in a robot body if a must, but my own body is preferrable... although only slightly. - calipan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2not without systematic population control like they do in China. Slow birth rate down to match death rate from causes that still mean death (accidents, natural disasters, acts of god).
You give people an option. Forgo retirement benefits, social security, etc and pay into an immortality plan which regulates your life, or give up the life extension benefits and retire and then die. - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3Bring on the singularitarians!
- Feanor, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2This research seems to be pointing at better understanding of how Telomeres and their protein buddies behave. While this research may not prove to be a fountain of youth, perhaps it could be a key to stopping rapid uncontrolled cell division, aka cancer.
- durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -0/+2
"No matter the system, no matter what laws or policies are passed, there will always be haves and have nots."
You suffer from a paucity of vision, then. There have been plenty of complex societies which haven't been class stratified. You might want to read about them. We can start with this one.
http://www.nefac.net/anarchiststudyofiroquois
"there would still need to be leaders in order to get things done"
I never said anything about a lack of leaders. I argued against a lack of class stratification. I think maybe you're out of your league in this argument.
"Human nature makes it impossible for it to be any other way. "
Human nature is extraordinarily malleable. It's what sets us apart from any other animal. - jdutil, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I like your style
- iticu, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I'd do it for the internet. Screw the machine guns.
- Techx4, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2real zombies make for more interesting news.. i'd rather hear about a zombie horde attacking Manhattan than anything more about the Olympics or Obama... meh
- systmc, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Living longer is different than living forever. Slowing down or even stopping the aging of cells doesn't keep you from dying from a nasty virus, an aggressive bacterial infection, murder, genocide, suicide, a fatal accident in your flying car, or a hundred and one other ways you can die. However, the longer you live the longer you're a tax-paying consumer.
- acknotSW, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Personally, I think immortality and the cure for cancer will come within a decade of each other.
- Culyt, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2Yeah, back when the high ranking members could just have you killed.
Now days its almost impossible to stop medical treatments, you might need to fly overseas however.
If its patented, it will expire in 20 years at which point you will be able to get a generic brand (which is a problem for us now days but not for future generations).
☢ - worldnick, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1I'd do it even with BigDog robot body.
http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?sect ... - iamnobody8614, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2You're sort misunderstanding the role of telomeres. The telomeres themselves do not limit the capacity to divide, it's the reaction to their deterioration. Telomeres are sort of caps that protect the end of DNA, so that when it divides all the information remains intact. Each time a cell divides the telomeres of its DNA get shorter. Cancer cells (well most of them anyway) are a result of cells bypassing senescence (halting of their proliferation) which occurs naturally when cells run out of telomeres and telomerase (which restores telomeres). If a cell continues to divide without telomeres it will eventually mutate to the point of its death or become "immortal" due to a mutation reactivating the creation of telomerase, which means the now mutated cell will continue to divide unhindered by death --> cancer.
Now, this research involves making cells "immortal" from the get-go, or at least way before their telomeres run out, thus making cells that reproduce perfectly without its telomeres ever wearing down so much that they become ineffective by making the application of telomerase more efficient. They have to do this without making telomerase over-express itself, because that causes mutations as well. I can't really see them ever creating an effective way of making all of a person's cells do this unless they start from an embryo.
(I hardly consider myself an expert but I have taken a few genetics classes and this subject was one of the few that I really seemed to grasp pretty well.) - cultist667, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Kankel!!! The being of cancer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betterman
- worldnick, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Here is my plan: Introduce life extension technology and quickly push to get into space ASAP. Also limit reproduction for the time being (that would be an ok trade off for life extension) just to nothing excessive like 8 children. Next during the following enlightenment build schools, hospitals etc. All the self defeatism of the world will be ended. Drug addicts will stop using drugs, men will have new hope. I also believe this would put an end to war.
- ivengo, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1YESSS !!! Now all they need is move the research to a small underground lab under Raccoon City. Brilliant !
- JoeVet, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1LOL No, just old.
- iamnobody8614, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Whoever let you teach genetics was sorely mistaken if you think that telomeres themselves contribute to the aging process. As I said, it's their deterioration that triggers senescence and the absence of this process that leads to most cancers.
The problem with Sir2 is it only offsets p53's destructiveness, it doesn't fix telomere deterioration. In abundance Sir2 will promote longevity in cells, but the telomere problem will have to fixed in tandem or all you get is cancer again.
Also, when you mess with Sir2, you better damn well get it right, because if you get it wrong it's pretty much guaranteed to lead to mutation. - inactive, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1I'm 40, but I have hands like a 15 year old!
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