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A Lead on the Ark of the Covenant
time.com — When last we saw the lost Ark of the Covenant in action, it had been dug up by Indiana Jones in Egypt and ark-napped by Nazis, whom the Ark proceeded to incinerate amidst a tempest of terrifying apparitions. But according to Tudor Parfitt, a real life scholar-adventurer, Raiders of the Lost Ark had it wrong, and the Ark is nowhere near Egypt.
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- shadovvman, on 02/22/2008, -6/+69in related news, people all over egypt are finding their faces suddenly being sucked off.
- fluidfoundation, on 02/22/2008, -5/+15by Top Men.
- Digger1218, on 02/22/2008, -0/+11Who exactly?
- diggduggDOOM, on 02/22/2008, -4/+18Top. Men.
- Evermin7, on 02/23/2008, -3/+1??
- Digger1218, on 02/22/2008, -0/+11Who exactly?
- ashmon, on 02/22/2008, -7/+2I didn't know Paris Hilton was even in Egypt. Wait... did you say faces or head was being sucked?
- fluidfoundation, on 02/22/2008, -5/+15by Top Men.
- hiscity, on 02/22/2008, -29/+13We know where the Ark is... see Revelation 11:19
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.- beasty_dave_Mk2, on 02/22/2008, -10/+6fake
- UberNick, on 02/22/2008, -7/+17Sweet Jesus, how could the historians have missed that?!
- Wargalas, on 02/22/2008, -4/+28And I will strike down upon thee with GREAT vengeance and FURIOUS anger, THOSE who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the LORD, when I lay my vengeance upon thee!
- markperia, on 02/22/2008, -3/+12"You know, I rather like this God fellow. Very theatrical, you know. Pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence... gotta get me some of that." -Stewie
- Wargalas, on 02/22/2008, -5/+3Christians nailing each other to two by fours. :)
- xsuite, on 02/22/2008, -7/+2Cant forget those atheists firebombing and vandalising churches in the Detroit area!!!
- bugsy187, on 02/22/2008, -4/+7Yeah... or the Crusades... or abortion clinic bombing... or electing Bush twice.
- mordeci, on 02/22/2008, -3/+4"Cant forget those atheists firebombing and vandalising churches in the Detroit area!!!"
I'm not aware of any firebombings of Detroit churches. Neither is google. Let's see a reference. - xsuite, on 02/22/2008, -4/+2Call up my pastor. Hear it yourself.
248.499.8251
Or, since youre too lazy to search properly, here is a church in VA that had the same thing happen to it:
http://wtopnews.com/?nid=25&sid=1106669
or, more recently:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/89609/output/print - Haroludo, on 02/23/2008, -1/+2http://www.google.com/search?q=248.499.8251&hl=en& ...
Pontiac ain't no where near Detroit!! - Matri, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Nowhere did it mention that they were atheists. It was a black community church, the perpetrator was schizophrenic and the suspected motives was race and hate crime.
I don't know where you come from, but hate crimes aren't usually carried out by atheists. - mordeci, on 02/23/2008, -1/+2Just as I thought, no reference. You are a liar. As for me being lazy, you aren't just a liar, you are also stupid. I searched for churches being firebombed in Detroit. There aren't any, you are a liar. No where in the Virginia article does it say that those kids were atheists. Before you lie again and say that christians wouldn't burn a christian church, they would and they do:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/08/alabama.churches ...
All 3 were christians, 2 went to a christian college.
As for the Texas (not Detroit) church shooting. No where does it say that he was an atheist. He did say 'I can't believe you believe this junk" which implies he was an atheist. But he could have been of another religion. Either way, Here's one of the much more common - people shooting up their own church.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/14/national ...
If a person shooting up a church automatically makes everyone of similar beliefs immoral, then this covers us both.
You need to either come up with some proof about Detroit churches being firebombed or admit that YOU ARE A LIAR. I am not calling your 'pastor' and have him lie to me as well. You call him, ask for proof, post that proof. But you can't because YOU ARE A LIAR.
- Wargalas, on 02/22/2008, -5/+3Christians nailing each other to two by fours. :)
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 02/22/2008, -1/+4Badass!
- H3LLSL337, on 02/22/2008, -2/+5Too bad that quote from Pulp Fiction is no where in the bible.
- reddfox321, on 02/23/2008, -2/+1Not entirely true. The last line is ad libbed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_Fiction_%28film% ...
- reddfox321, on 02/23/2008, -2/+1Not entirely true. The last line is ad libbed
- hiscity, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3No need at all to defend the the things of God. There's nothing of His that has ever, is, or will ever go amiss.
- markperia, on 02/22/2008, -3/+12"You know, I rather like this God fellow. Very theatrical, you know. Pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence... gotta get me some of that." -Stewie
- dbs1221, on 02/22/2008, -0/+7Unfortunately the temple is gone, destroyed in 70CE by the Romans. If your quotes tell us anything its where the Ark will be rather than where it is, which is pointless because the Ark is an integral part of the Temple. The Ark will be in the temple, the temple won't be built until the Ark is found, and it isn't known where the ark is.
- stonebear, on 02/22/2008, -0/+4It's commonly accepted among judeo/christians that the ark and the temple constructed by the Hebrews were holy because they were facsimiles of heavenly versions to be used in worship on earth. It's common enough knowledge that hiscity should be aware that the passage he cites refers to a heavenly, and not earthly object.
- stonebear, on 02/22/2008, -2/+1Sorry, this was supposed to reply to the scremaxinc comment below.
- hiscity, on 02/23/2008, -3/+1For stonebear and very few others...
The Ark == the Merkaba (aka Throne or Chariot of God) since some things transcend spiritual and physical reality. In this case, the very nexus of all reality. (Not to worry, few others can even begin to "get it.")
Inasmuch as the Word is no less God in the most abstract -- we each are seen by our works. When I speak, you know me. You also know me by my dwelling, offspring, signature. These are extensions of who I am. Not entirely cut off or separate.
The shadow of the Throne Room of Heaven, the pattern of which we see in the Tabernacle, is also a reflection of Christ. It is because of your defense that this unfolds to you know. I will not belabor the parallels.
altar, laver, table, lampstand, censer, ark, mercy seat
evangels, prophets, pastors, teachers, apostles, deacons, elders
helm, sword, boots, belt, shield, breastplate, cloak (Isa 59:17)
blessing, riches, power, wisdom, strength, glory, honor
Rev. 1:04; 4:05; 5:06
Each part is a portion of the Ministry of Christ, His 7 horns and 7 eyes, extended to us as His spiritual offspring. The fullness of the Spirit of God is poured out through Him and His Bride/Wife (His Offspring, His crown and jewels).
So yes, the Ark has an earthly manifestation and a heavenly manifestation. The earthly has been a pre-shadowing or pre-echo or side-lobe of the Heavenly -- which we to see it would say as John that it looks like the jeweled throne of God (seen as emerald, sapphire, etc. depending on the angle viewed due to the prismatic effect of diamond) -- which is merely a reflection of the greater Glory of the Lamb Himself (Christ Jesus).
The Ark can definitely take care of itself.
- hiscity, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Another word, in a fourier transform sense, would be harmonic representation.
God as the Word is also described by information theory. - Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -2/+2Why is it "unfortunate" that the Temple was destroyed? They defied the Romans and that was their punishment. What do you think the Romans should've done, invited them over for an ice cream social?
- stonebear, on 02/22/2008, -0/+4It's commonly accepted among judeo/christians that the ark and the temple constructed by the Hebrews were holy because they were facsimiles of heavenly versions to be used in worship on earth. It's common enough knowledge that hiscity should be aware that the passage he cites refers to a heavenly, and not earthly object.
- scrimaxinc, on 02/22/2008, -2/+8Not sure why this guy is being dugg down. Is it more ridiculous to believe you know the location of the ark because of what's written in the bible than to believe that it exists because of what's written in the bible? It all comes from the same story.
- EarlOfLade, on 02/22/2008, -6/+2And both are 100% pure fantasy, so what is your problem with him being dugg down? It's the right thing to do with unsubstantiated claims.
- xsuite, on 02/22/2008, -3/+4Can you prove to me that Charles Darwin ever existed without referencing works that he allegedly wrote or others wrote about him?
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -2/+1I can't prove that you exist without referencing quotes you allegedly made or comments others made about you. Likewise you about me.
Your argument is flawed. - xsuite, on 02/23/2008, -2/+3As is yours.
- RobotBuddha, on 02/23/2008, -1/+3He could do so by referencing more than one source from the same time period though.
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -2/+1I can't prove that you exist without referencing quotes you allegedly made or comments others made about you. Likewise you about me.
- xsuite, on 02/22/2008, -3/+4Can you prove to me that Charles Darwin ever existed without referencing works that he allegedly wrote or others wrote about him?
- EarlOfLade, on 02/22/2008, -6/+2And both are 100% pure fantasy, so what is your problem with him being dugg down? It's the right thing to do with unsubstantiated claims.
- TriviallyTravis, on 02/22/2008, -2/+19It belongs in a museum!
- Spytap, on 02/22/2008, -3/+8SO DO YOU!
- scooterbaga, on 02/22/2008, -3/+2It belongs to Peter Frampton!
- smhill, on 02/22/2008, -12/+8That is where it USED to be. Since then, a tribe of evil Leprechauns in a joint effort with three Goblins (though some accounts put the number at six), removed the ark and took it to the magical Faerie Realm. It is guarded day and night by two dragons, on red and one green. Legends often remark of the red dragon being quite friendly, while the green one is a real jerk. Though they are both quite vicious and seemingly indestructible.
So obviously, the ark is unattainable to us. Science may have done some cool things, sure, but until it can provide us way to defeat indestructible dragons, fight evil leprechauns and Goblins and discover the entrance to the Faerie Realm, some things will just be unattainable.- jftitan, on 02/22/2008, -2/+2OMG the logic is RIGHT THERE!
- macweirdo42, on 02/23/2008, -2/+3I will kill myself. And when my tainted spirit finds it destination, I will topple the master of that dark place. From my black throne, I will lash together a machine of bone and blood, and fueled by my hatred for you this fear engine will bore a hole between this world and that one.
When it begins, you will hear the sound of children screaming, as though from a distance. A smoking orb of nothing will appear above your bed, and from it will emerge a thousand starving crows. As I slip through the widening maw in my new form, you will catch only a glimpse of my radiance before you are incinerated. Then, as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my face, my dark work will begin. And then, when all hope is lost, I will open my mouth and I will sing the song that ends the earth...- xsuite, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1But why? Cant you rule with grace, love and harmony? Cant you create a world without pain and suffering? Why do you have to destroy everything?
- jebidiah123, on 02/22/2008, -1/+30Forget about it and let the Nazi's open it to see what happens.
- dondara, on 02/22/2008, -13/+14George is busy but I bet we could get Rush ...oh, you meant the other nazi's ...NM
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3Better idea...since it is in Zimbabwe, let Robert Mugabe himself open it. Then the Ark, authentic original or replica, can be thanked for liberating that country of one of the worst dictators in the world.
- yahoofrom, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1they will instantly turn into clay stuffs and meanwhile the heaven will play flushing_toilet_sound.mp3
- BigManOnCampus, on 02/22/2008, -3/+74Duh, It's being worked on by top men..... TOP Men....
- drtyfrnk, on 02/22/2008, -11/+1nice family guy reference.
Dugg.- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -1/+6Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.
You fail.- VeganG, on 02/23/2008, -1/+4Goddam kids these days... I swear...
- solid12345, on 02/23/2008, -1/+3It amazes me how so many lines people love in Family Guy is just a verbatim copy from old movies and pop culture.
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -1/+6Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.
- drtyfrnk, on 02/22/2008, -11/+1nice family guy reference.
- tnvwboy, on 02/22/2008, -14/+42I find it interesting that it's suggested that the 'arc' was used perhaps as a primitive cannon. That would certainly explain the fall of the walls of Jericho or the burning of people. All too often seemingly magical/mystical things are just science wrapped up in the language of the ignorant.
- joatmon07734, on 02/22/2008, -11/+12So, you're saying that God doesn't have the ability to work through science? Sure, there are scientific explanations for the burning bush, the parting of the Red Sea, the creation of the universe, etc, but that doesn't mean that God didn't and still doesn't have a hand in them.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -9/+11God can't even microwave a pizza so hot that he can't eat it. What makes you think he knows anything about science?
- imthe1, on 02/23/2008, -1/+6Throughout human history, man has always attributed what he doesn't understand to God. That's why the stars were gods, and the moon was a god, etc...
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -4/+2Doubtful. How could a cannon kill someone instantly by touch as described in the Old Testament. If it is built with as much gold as was described, it would conduct electricity. That would explain why special clothing had to be worn in its presence. Plus, since the Voice of God was known to speak from it, it could also serve as a primitive Mr. Microphone for the priests of that age to control the ancient Hebrews. No space aliens necessary.
- joatmon07734, on 02/22/2008, -11/+12So, you're saying that God doesn't have the ability to work through science? Sure, there are scientific explanations for the burning bush, the parting of the Red Sea, the creation of the universe, etc, but that doesn't mean that God didn't and still doesn't have a hand in them.
- RealSurreal, on 02/22/2008, -32/+15I find it strange that people dedicate their lives to finding things that don't exist!
- Wildthing, on 02/22/2008, -3/+29Regardless of your religious beliefs, the existence of a golden ark made thousands of years ago isn't impossible to fathom. Did it do all the things some texts say it did? Who knows? But seriously, it's not like it was made of adamantium or something impossible for us to grasp. Indiana Jones dedicates his life to this sort of stuff. You don't hate Indiana Jones, do you?
- diggduggDOOM, on 02/22/2008, -1/+8Don't make me choose between Indiana Jones and Wolverine, dude.
- orxor, on 02/23/2008, -3/+3"Did it do all the things some texts say it did? Who knows?"
I do. The answer is no.- Xondar, on 02/23/2008, -3/+2And you can prove this scientifically?
- orxor, on 02/23/2008, -1/+2And you have evidence that magical things happened?
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
- orxor, on 02/23/2008, -1/+2And you have evidence that magical things happened?
- Xondar, on 02/23/2008, -3/+2And you can prove this scientifically?
- iucraigmc, on 02/22/2008, -2/+8Umm... thats what scientists do... only they theorize they exist, and then find out if it is possible to make it exist or test its existence.... Einstein theorized space travel, then again, people thought he was strange... I guess I destroyed my point... what was I talking about?
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -0/+2Beer.
- uiguy3, on 02/22/2008, -1/+16That's what skeptics said about Troy but look how that turned out.
- Synova, on 02/23/2008, -1/+1Exactly, once you strip out the mythology that is added in, you often find traces of real history.
- dbs1221, on 02/22/2008, -2/+21Since the temple existed and the Ark was an essential part of the temple, odds are the Ark existed,
- Nitesmoke, on 02/22/2008, -1/+12Exactly, historians pretty much all agree the ark did exist. For a couple of reasons: When the Bible describes most objects, it may give a few details, but not many. Not in the case of the Ark of the Covenant, it goes into great detail describing the materials used, and dimensions, also the two "angels" on top. The other example is the description of the temple, that the Ark was in. Second, the Ark was also mentioned in other ancient texts as being an actual object. Similar to the Roman records of there actually being a man named Jesus that was crucified. These things may have not had any "divine" powers but they probably did exist.
- Birdoftruth, on 02/22/2008, -0/+6and the numerous underground passages in Jerusalem seem to lead me to believe so aswell as it escaped there.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -5/+5There are no Roman records of someone being executed on Passover. Kind of a crucial detail in your little fairytale.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3Josephus said so, tighscrummy. There's also Roman criticisms of early Christianity in the records too.
- tightscrummy, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1But there are no Roman records and they kept records of everything which is why we know so much about them.
- RobotBuddha, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Which show that Christianity existed in a time period after we have historical data showing Christianity existed. Nothing all that stunning there. It's a far cry from the parent's claim of a writ of execution for Jesus.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Tightscrummy, for years the skeptics claimed that Pilate didn't exist either because they couldn't find records. And then they did. Pilate had thousands executed while he was governor; do you expect them to find writs of execution for each one of them?
- Nitesmoke, on 02/22/2008, -1/+12Exactly, historians pretty much all agree the ark did exist. For a couple of reasons: When the Bible describes most objects, it may give a few details, but not many. Not in the case of the Ark of the Covenant, it goes into great detail describing the materials used, and dimensions, also the two "angels" on top. The other example is the description of the temple, that the Ark was in. Second, the Ark was also mentioned in other ancient texts as being an actual object. Similar to the Roman records of there actually being a man named Jesus that was crucified. These things may have not had any "divine" powers but they probably did exist.
- smhill, on 02/22/2008, -2/+6I would agree if you said dedicating their lives to worshiping things that don't exist. But the study of such things and the search for mythological backgrounds is pretty cool. Most myths have a germ of truth in them. I don't know enough about the author to know if it is just another attempt to "prove" biblical mythology or if he is a genuine scholar of the origins of myths and legends. But I find it fascinating on some level.
- Kyan, on 02/22/2008, -1/+5Dugg for the appropriate use of the word "germ".
- Wildthing, on 02/22/2008, -3/+29Regardless of your religious beliefs, the existence of a golden ark made thousands of years ago isn't impossible to fathom. Did it do all the things some texts say it did? Who knows? But seriously, it's not like it was made of adamantium or something impossible for us to grasp. Indiana Jones dedicates his life to this sort of stuff. You don't hate Indiana Jones, do you?
- angusm, on 02/22/2008, -3/+30I wondered where I'd left that thing. Thanks.
Incidentally, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims that they have the original Ark in a church in Axum. They're going to be upset if it turns out that it's been in a museum in Harare all this time.- blatantninja, on 02/22/2008, -0/+22Think how pissed off the guy who spends his whole life guarding it is going to be!
- dafragsta, on 02/22/2008, -0/+20He chose... poorly.
- EllieElliott, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1I'll say!
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Then it's probably safe to say it isn't sealed in a crate marked Top Secret and hidden in a vast warehouse...
- flipdoubt, on 02/23/2008, -1/+1IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! :)
- blatantninja, on 02/22/2008, -0/+22Think how pissed off the guy who spends his whole life guarding it is going to be!
- scootscr15, on 02/22/2008, -8/+56In other news, Harry Potter's famed "Chamber of Secrets" exposed in undergrund sex ring.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Is that a crack against Dumbledore's sexual orientation?
- yodaj007, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2This reminds me of Ron Wyatt, but this guy sounds a lot more credible than RW could ever aspire to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt - falkonv7l, on 02/22/2008, -17/+4Did anybody else think Halo for just a second?
- colto, on 02/22/2008, -2/+8No.
- verkon, on 02/22/2008, -3/+7Believe it or not, I actually did.
- falkonv7l, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2At least someone else is honest, remember not long ago Digg was full of Halo fanboys that just could not wait for Halo3 and now..........
- olbap, on 02/22/2008, -22/+13In other news, the Flying Spaghetti Monster's secret liar has been discovered in a deep cave located in the Yucatan Peninsula.
- FlyingSpaghetti, on 02/22/2008, -2/+8Not even close! Keep trying.
- Nougat, on 02/22/2008, -4/+2FSM employs a being to be a liar?
- redone, on 02/22/2008, -2/+3Nooooooooo! FSM *just can't be* a politician!
- FlyingSpaghetti, on 02/23/2008, -2/+2I simply point out inaccurate information. This was the site of my previous lair but it was too remote to make an effective presentation.
- Nougat, on 02/22/2008, -4/+2FSM employs a being to be a liar?
- smhill, on 02/22/2008, -3/+6FSM will not be found or proof of his existence. He CHOOSES to be invisible.
- FlyingSpaghetti, on 02/22/2008, -2/+8Not even close! Keep trying.
- iucraigmc, on 02/22/2008, -6/+11I keep my Arc of the Covenant in the basement, it's holding all my old electronic gaming monthly's...
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Then it can't be powerful. EGM's power rested with the bribes they took for their reviewer scoring, as evident in how they gave *Alien vs. Predator* on the Atari Jaguar solid "5's" when it was the most badass game of 1994.
- chkdg8, on 02/22/2008, -3/+14[laughing] Oh, Marcus. What are you trying to do, scare me? You sound like my mother. We've known each other for a long time. I don't believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus pocus. I'm going after a find of incredible historical significance, you're talking about the boogie man. Besides, you know what a cautious fellow I am. [throws his gun into his suitcase]
- 0crabby0, on 02/22/2008, -2/+37I put on my whip and dusty hat...
- breckinshire, on 02/22/2008, -0/+8Meanwhile, I take off my robe and wizard hat.
- dafragsta, on 02/22/2008, -7/+4DON'T LOOK AT IT OR SPECIAL EFFECTS WILL KEEL YOU!
/asps. very dangeorus. you go first. - debuffplx, on 02/22/2008, -20/+3"biblical archaeologist" Has to be one of the top 5 ***** job titles.
- Synova, on 02/23/2008, -1/+1Not really. You can go through the mythology of any culture and it will give you clues to finding real aritifacts. The Judeo-Christian myths are no different.
- noahhoward, on 02/22/2008, -1/+11Wish I remembered more detail but in our civilizations class we followed the supposed path of the ark through history and knew it apparently would have ended up somewhere in Africa. Our teacher then told us that in some place in africa is a church, that church is surrounded by barbed wire and the priests all carry sub-machineguns. No one knows what's inside or why there is o much security.
- oldhick, on 02/22/2008, -9/+5Well if your teacher told you so then... ***** everyone else should just quit looking!
- tehjarvis, on 02/22/2008, -0/+19You're talking about Axum, Ethiopia.
And it's no secret that they claim to have the Ark there.
http://www.exodus2006.com/theark.htm - VitriolAndAngst, on 02/22/2008, -1/+5The Arc is just a cover for Cocaine or Diamonds. The rival militias just pass on by having lost interest. Those Clever folks in that little church.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2Any chance you went to Oral Roberts University?
- noahhoward, on 02/22/2008, -2/+2Nope Middle Georgia college electrical engineering, I'm also an atheist.
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -0/+5It's Africa. People are more likely to wonder why you DON'T have barbed wire and sub-machineguns.
- dann44, on 02/22/2008, -5/+0That doesnt make any sense
- drtyfrnk, on 02/22/2008, -0/+2Sir, you don't make any sense.
- radish01001, on 02/22/2008, -1/+30Pics or he didn't find it.
- benburned, on 02/22/2008, -7/+12It belongs in a museum!
- simplicityiskey, on 02/22/2008, -0/+2Interesting story. Little remarks in regards to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and their claims to being in possession of the original Ark, though.
- blatantninja, on 02/22/2008, -0/+6I remember a History channel show that showed some very Israelite looking artifacts that reside in a monastery in that same area. It's amazing how much history has just been forgotten.
- Berkana, on 02/22/2008, -1/+4The Ark is still in Jerusalem, according to these controversial findings:
http://www.anchorstone.com/content/blogcategory/34 ...
According to the archaeologists affiliated with Ron Wyatt, the ark could not have been taken out past the siege wall built around Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, so Jeremiah had the ark taken by an underground passage to an underground chamber between the walls of Jerusalem and the Babylonian siege wall, under "skull hill" (a.k.a. Golgotha).- smhill, on 02/22/2008, -1/+5*****-Demons!
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1Skull Hill? Sounds rad.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -2/+2His name wasn't Nebuchadnezzar, it was Nebuchadreezer (sic). The ancient Hebrews weren't that good with the names of their foreign enemies. They also referred to the Egyptian king as "Pharaoh" which actually was a bastardized term for the King's palace. It is downright "ignant" to still refer to the ancient Egyptian kings as "Pharaohs"; like referring to our President as "White House".
- RobotBuddha, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3Referring to someone by the title of their house has been scientifically proven to be awesome.
- maticus, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3Golgotha - a.k.a. the hill where Jesus was crucified.
- Vergs, on 02/22/2008, -1/+17I was so buying this until the "yes, yes, it carbon dates to 1350 A.D., but that's because it was built from the ruins of the original Ark which was destroyed!" That's awfully convenient...and the first time I've heard that theory.
- skeez86, on 02/22/2008, -1/+9I love how when the science doesn't support them they resort to oddball reasoning like that. Much like the shroud of Turin... although they couldn't come up with a good story for that, so it's just a test of faith like all other things science disproves in religion.
- kelly, on 02/22/2008, -9/+6Carbon dating is not scientific. The fact that so many scientists still regard it's methods as accurate while also believing in evolution is very telling. The fact that many of them use carbon dating to support their evolutionist theories says even more.
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -3/+3http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD011.html
- dawnraid101, on 02/23/2008, -5/+2***** off you creationist.
- endersadvocate, on 02/23/2008, -4/+2logged in to digg you down
- kelly, on 02/22/2008, -9/+6Carbon dating is not scientific. The fact that so many scientists still regard it's methods as accurate while also believing in evolution is very telling. The fact that many of them use carbon dating to support their evolutionist theories says even more.
- skeez86, on 02/22/2008, -1/+9I love how when the science doesn't support them they resort to oddball reasoning like that. Much like the shroud of Turin... although they couldn't come up with a good story for that, so it's just a test of faith like all other things science disproves in religion.
- twitchr, on 02/22/2008, -3/+1Pic or it didn't happen...oh also, in b4 spiritblade!
- pnunn, on 02/22/2008, -3/+9So you see Dr. Jones, there is nothing you can possess that I can not take away!
I can't help but think trash lying around ILM sound stages has more power than certain old boxes that dr. goose chase is hunting- but, then again, so many folks take the bible literally- why stop now? - ChairShot83, on 02/22/2008, -3/+7Insert Indiana Jones quip here for a marginal laugh...
- xeren, on 02/22/2008, -0/+4I hate snakes!
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+2"No time for love, Dr. Jones!"
- verkon, on 02/22/2008, -0/+6True, it is nowhere near Egypt. It is in a large storage room.
- IllBeBack, on 02/22/2008, -17/+10Newsflash, all the stories in the Bible that have anything supernatural in them never happened.
- cabooglio2, on 02/22/2008, -7/+8Also, all of the other ones.
- Kyan, on 02/22/2008, -1/+6Dude, what about Huckleberry Finn? Just because something is a story doesn't mean it can't tell us anything about the author's world and world view. And when it's the bible, I'd be willing to bet there is a lot of really interesting stuff to learn by studying it in a historical perspective.
It's not like some old guy just whips up an epic out of thin air, you know.
Gilgamesh, FWIW.
- Kyan, on 02/22/2008, -1/+6Dude, what about Huckleberry Finn? Just because something is a story doesn't mean it can't tell us anything about the author's world and world view. And when it's the bible, I'd be willing to bet there is a lot of really interesting stuff to learn by studying it in a historical perspective.
- Kythas, on 02/22/2008, -3/+8And you know they never happened because you were there?
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -4/+7No, because in the real world crackers don't turn into human flesh, inland seas don't magically "part" so that some crazy desert rats can cross, and people don't come back to life after getting nailed to a tree. You should come visit sometime.
- breckinshire, on 02/22/2008, -0/+5You've obviously never been to Mardi Gras.
- Matri, on 02/23/2008, -0/+2And you know they actually happened because you were there?
- Kythas, on 02/23/2008, -2/+1Matri, I'm not the one stating the things never happened. If you're going to make a blanket statement of fact, then you'd better have some evidence to back it up. If you wish to say it's your opinion that they never happened, that's one thing. But that's not what you said.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -4/+7No, because in the real world crackers don't turn into human flesh, inland seas don't magically "part" so that some crazy desert rats can cross, and people don't come back to life after getting nailed to a tree. You should come visit sometime.
- cabooglio2, on 02/22/2008, -7/+8Also, all of the other ones.
- legoist, on 02/22/2008, -0/+6What, They found the warehouse?
- ubergeek09, on 02/22/2008, -2/+10Huckabee is going to go retrieve it now.
- Namco, on 02/22/2008, -0/+8Huckabee/Ark '08!
- sloonark, on 02/22/2008, -3/+12I'm waiting for the comment 'Well, how could they fit so many animals on it?'
- Vifken, on 02/22/2008, -2/+0ha! that would be funny
- designerutah, on 02/22/2008, -1/+4And it's not possible that these are two, unrelated objects? And Ark of the Covenant that was part of Solomon's temple, and that rounded cannon-like thing in Africa? C'mon, two objects... not related. Given similar traits because... and here's the key part.... after a few hundred years, the Ark story got round, and it sounded scary, so what better way to protect our new invention called the cannon than to .... borrow... a few traits? Anyone else think this is what's happened here?
- Synova, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Once he found that genetic marker in -some- of the priests of that village I think he made some unjustified leaps.
- ftw37, on 02/22/2008, -0/+7Sallah: Indy, there is something that troubles me.
Indiana: What is it?
Sallah: The Ark. If it is there, at Tanis, then it is something that man was not meant to disturb. Death has always surrounded it. It is not of this earth. - flagg85, on 02/22/2008, -0/+2I just want to see it melt somebody's face.
- pennvneff, on 02/22/2008, -0/+3Just close your eyes and you'll be fine, Nazi's never quite figured that one out.
- Ceeman, on 02/22/2008, -10/+6What is next? The search for the beanstalk that Jack climbed to get to the giants castle? It's a fairy tale.
- xlar54, on 02/23/2008, -0/+2Not everything in the Bible is imaginary, ya know...
- schneb, on 02/22/2008, -3/+10It's a drum, it's a cannon... It's BOTH! And if you act now, you can get this handy spice injector.
Talked to the head of the Temple Institute while in Israel. He said they already have the Ark. Due to the climate there in Israel, they cannot let the news get out. Sounded about right.- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -0/+5Haven't you ever read _Chariots_of_the_Gods_? It was a transmitter for communicating with the aliens.
- breckinshire, on 02/22/2008, -0/+3It is a radio for speaking with God!
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Well, thanks for letting the secret out.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -0/+5Haven't you ever read _Chariots_of_the_Gods_? It was a transmitter for communicating with the aliens.
- bmystry, on 02/22/2008, -1/+11It was most likely just melted down for gold when the temple was destroyed.
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -9/+7Actually, most likely it never existed just the all of the other flim-flam in the bible.
- Xondar, on 02/23/2008, -2/+4That's why thousands of historical sites and events from the Old Testament have been confirmed by modern archaeology, right?
- tightscrummy, on 02/23/2008, -2/+2"Thousands" is a big number, you probably didn't mean that.
- joshuabowers, on 02/23/2008, -1/+4There is no archaeological basis for Jews being in Egypt during the supposed time of Moses, nor for their 40-year trek through the Arabian desert.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1You sound like Israel Finkelstein.
- rushiku, on 02/23/2008, -2/+3How to create a religion 101
Step 1: Start with a familiar context
Step 2: Add mysticism, which will be unbelievable, until you start killing off everyone that thinks it's unbelievable.
Step 3: Profit
- Xondar, on 02/23/2008, -2/+4That's why thousands of historical sites and events from the Old Testament have been confirmed by modern archaeology, right?
- tightscrummy, on 02/22/2008, -9/+7Actually, most likely it never existed just the all of the other flim-flam in the bible.
- ZebZ, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2Yet, he told you. And you post about it on Digg.
- londubh, on 02/22/2008, -1/+10he'z already got one. It'sa verra nice.
- emomakesmecry, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Well, can we come up and have a look?
- londubh, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Of course not! You are English types-a!
- emomakesmecry, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Well, can we come up and have a look?
- eirinikos, on 02/22/2008, -3/+1I AM the Ark
- JQP123, on 02/22/2008, -8/+9Whatever the Ark was, it most certainly did not "retain the unbridled divine power the Old Testament describes". How divine and powerful could it be if it couldn't stop the Babylonians from destroying the sacred temple where it was housed?
Sounds like the Babylonian God was more powerful than the Jewish God --- or perhaps both were nothing more than myth and fable ... and ignorance?- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -1/+8All of the defeats of the Hebrews in the Old Testament were attributed to their lack of faith in God.
- maticus, on 02/23/2008, -1/+5Or..... God was pissed at the Hebrews and let it happen.
- JQP123, on 02/23/2008, -1/+3Win or lose, God did it.
Down through history, something like 10000 different religions have been documented. History and logic would suggest that is makes no difference which God or Gods you believe in if any, you still win some and you lose some. For all practical purposes, religion is essentially meaningless.- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Interesting point. Apollo - not the Battlestar Galactica Apollo - promised the Romans an eternal empire. Seems that turned out to be a gratuitous promise.
- Xondar, on 02/23/2008, -0/+3God would allow it to be destroyed if He didn't need it anymore. And as others have pointed out, God did allow the Hebrews to be defeated and captured by the Babylonians.
- joshuabowers, on 02/23/2008, -1/+2Lynxpro/maticus: that certainly sounds like a fantastic deity to worship: perfectly loving, not at all jealous, and never vengeful or scorned.
- Lynxpro, on 02/23/2008, -0/+1Joshua, I was merely stating what the Old Testament said; I wasn't justifying it as a belief system or being accurate.
- MisterSam, on 02/22/2008, -0/+4I hate snakes
- sonoran, on 02/22/2008, -4/+2This quest pales in comparison to the search for the "holey colander". That which posesses the essence of noodleage.
- drtyfrnk, on 02/22/2008, -5/+6Anyone else think that this was about halo?
- Gaffigan, on 02/23/2008, -1/+1Haha, I did.
- Acglaphotis, on 02/23/2008, -1/+1Yah, me.
- Vifken, on 02/22/2008, -8/+2Scientists and historians always trying to explain the supernatural even when it was something that happened thousands of years ago!
- AM6278, on 02/22/2008, -1/+4Your point being what?
- emptyhead, on 02/22/2008, -7/+5I heard top archaeologists also have strong leads on tom sawyers raft, famous from another fictional work.
- matthewniverse, on 02/25/2008, -1/+1I find it humorous when people write off everything that appears in the Bible as "fictional" when really there is a lot of historically legitimate info in it.
Okay, maybe the Ark doesn't contain the power of Jehovah or whatever, but some ancient Jewish people probably did make a pretty box and maybe they even put some stone tablets inside. From a historical standpoint, what about this is so hard to believe?
- matthewniverse, on 02/25/2008, -1/+1I find it humorous when people write off everything that appears in the Bible as "fictional" when really there is a lot of historically legitimate info in it.
- EarlOfLade, on 02/22/2008, -4/+3Funny that a fantasy should be found to exist, that would make it a fake and fraud.
There is nothing to support any exodus from Egypt by any large population group, nor are there a single iota of evidence of movements through the desert for 40 years, not to mention not a single shred of evidence for any man called Moses living in Egypt.
All this is 100% pure fantasy and should not be taken seriously!- razorsharpwit, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2my brother moses was from Eqypt. Why is Scineze always askin questions in *****!
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- razorsharpwit, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2my brother moses was from Eqypt. Why is Scineze always askin questions in *****!
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