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- greenfyre, on 07/01/2008, -3/+68There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." (Origin, 1st. Edition 1859).
When I first read that sentence at the end of Origin I knew Chuck was my man. - inactive, on 07/01/2008, -7/+70"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
--Charles Darwin
Isn't that the ***** truth. Even Richard Dawkins, if presented with enough evidence of a better theory, would discard Evolution in favor of the new theory. The problem with the creationists is since they don't rely on evidence, there is nothing that can be falsified. I believe darwin said it best...
"False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for every one takes a salutary pleasure in proving their falseness. "
-CD - Cate320, on 07/01/2008, -2/+48"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of Evolution"
Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975) - Dimensio, on 07/01/2008, -1/+45"And we don't demand that science ALWAYS point to a natural cause and effect simply to have a conclusion that is falsifiable. "
Science requires methodological naturalism. Any methodology that hypothesizes or concludes a supernatural occurrence is not science by definition. If any supernatural events have ever occurred or ever do occur in the future, the scientific method will be unable to fully and meaningfully address them and an alternative, non-scientific, methodolgy will be required to describe them.
Additionally, your association of evolution with atheism is fundamentally dishonest. Why do you engage in dishonesty? - inactive, on 07/01/2008, -1/+42Spaza - you are the kind of person those quotes were referring to...
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -0/+37But the bananas, they fit right in our hand! Where's your evolution now?
- smcgrath, on 07/01/2008, -6/+43Next year is the 150th anniversary of "Origin of Species". I have a copy on my iPhone, pick up your copy today and try to read it before the anniversary arrives. Truly a cultural landmark and a defining moment in human history.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1228
or if you'd like the audio version
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/21153 - ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -3/+38Neither Darwin nor Evolution are racist:
http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA005.html
http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA005_1.html
Everything inside the cell supports the Theory of Evolution - DNA is the best indicator yet for common descent with modification.
You fail at understanding what constitutes a Scientific Theory:
http://www.notjustatheory.com
"Neverlution is totally impossible."
Cit+ E. Coli, Nylon-eating bacteria, and the near-complete phylum of life described by the Foraminiferans would like to disagree with you on this. - ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -1/+33"When science says that natural could never have statistically caused ALL life on this planet, we creationists simply look elsewhere for the answer."
...and science has never said such a thing.
"Shoehorning an otherwise impossible naturalistic process into the conclusion is BAD SCIENCE."
There's no evidence to suggest a supernatural cause, so there's no reason to go looking for one. - greenfyre, on 07/01/2008, -1/+33ROTFL - Spaza, just when I think you have said the most idiotic thiig that could possibly said, you surprise me with another post. I guess everyone excels at something.
- hauntedchippy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+30"But Ray, my dick also fits perfectly in your hand, does that mean God designed it for me to put there?"
- urbandistrict, on 07/01/2008, -1/+29Note: Also the 150th anniversary of people attempting to disprove the theory to fit their agenda.
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -3/+30"I am sure something created us"
So, you are a creationist.
The only thing that is ***** is your reasoning, though. - ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -1/+26So basically, you have some unevidenced beliefs... versus the Theory of Evolution and all the countless facts, evidence, and peer review behind it.
What makes you so special that we should pick your flavor of unevidenced ***** over that offered by religion? Especially in light of the fact that evolution *DOES* have evidence? - Dimensio, on 07/01/2008, -2/+27Your assertion demonstrates that you willfully ignore reality. An individual who believes that an event is ultimately the work of a deity cannot be said to have "made up their mind that natural processes can account for everything". Either you are fundamentally irrational, or you are dishonest.
- eir574, on 07/01/2008, -0/+25Plenty of things seem obvious once someone has managed to point them out.
- ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -1/+26You fail at understanding the definition of a Scientific Theory.
http://www.notjustatheory.com - Coven, on 07/01/2008, -1/+25Looks like ol Jimbo is a self fulfilling prophecy...
- Coven, on 07/01/2008, -1/+25Dimensio, he wont. He never does. He just spews froth the first thing that comes to his mind, which is usually unfounded crap.
- Hetman, on 07/01/2008, -2/+25If you do not accept evolution as truth due to the overwhelming evidence supported by thousands of scientists around the globe, why come and post on a thread about evolution? I do not go to your church and start screaming about how Jesus never existed and religion is a ***** lie. Becuase that is fine with me if that is what you chose to believe based on your faith.
- nitsuj, on 07/01/2008, -2/+23"This crackpot theory would never have gotten off the ground if Darwin could have seen inside the cell."
Funny how modern science knows far more about biology than Darwin ever did and we've only ever found increasing support for the theory of evolution i.e. genetics.
"It only works if you have a system already in place and you *want* to study that system solely through the cone of uncertainty."
Cone of uncertainty? Science is not 'uncertain' of evolution. Evolution happens. FACT. The theory of evolution is the framework to explain how it happens.
The fact that you highlight *theory* in your post points to your continued ignorance of what a scientific theory is. The FACT that this has been pointed out to you several times now points to the FACT that you are an idiot. - ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -0/+21You, too, fail at understanding what constitutes a Scientific Theory.
http://www.notjustatheory.com - Wakkyweed, on 07/01/2008, -2/+23Well no, that's more a Theory of Abiogenesis. But strangely enough, if applied to abiogenesis, it's pretty much correct. Hydrogen is what the stars are made of, and as Carl Sagan so eloquently put it, we are all made of star stuff.
- Dimensio, on 07/01/2008, -0/+21Please justify your assertion.
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -2/+23Irrelevant what KIND of god you believed created us. Creationism is an umbrella term that encompasses the idea that *any* kind of divine/supreme being created us.
"But you have to admit, the idea that we came from single celled organisms who came from ..... somewhere, is pretty far fetched."
You see, that's your problem right there. What you just typed isn't science. It's 100% personal opinion. You have to accept that just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't imply that it couldn't have arisen through natural means.
The rest of your comments indicate a lack of understanding about the actual mechanics of Natural selection. I suggest you start here to educate yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection - Cate320, on 07/01/2008, -1/+22Wow. Someone that doesn't believe in Creationism OR Evolution?
Please sir, tell us YOUR ideas.
(I really am curious) - ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -2/+23"He, like many of you, have already made up their mind that natural processes can account for everything."
You've got it backwards - there has been no evidence to suggest that there are any supernatural causes, or supernatural explanations, so science has no reason to look for such causes or explanations. Further, there has been no indication that naturalistic explanations are inadequate for explanation. - Cate320, on 07/01/2008, -1/+22@btschul We didn't evolve from apes as we know them today. We share a common ancestor.
I can't believe people still try to use that as an argument. - Coven, on 07/01/2008, -2/+23Not quite, but you're getting there. Hydrogen formed into stars, in the cores of which formed denser elements. We are all the stuff of stars. Every single atom within your body was once at the core of a star.
- Cate320, on 07/01/2008, -2/+22Has it really?
BTW Dobzhansky believed the evolutionary process to be the creation of God. Still have the same opinion? - hauntedchippy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+21The muslims are much worse at this evolution thing than the christians.
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -0/+20Since when has adhering to a philosophy of looking through life from a scientific viewpoint make one a zealot?
- ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -0/+18But the pineapples, they don't fit!
Hope you don't get dinged too hard for your lack of a /sarcasm tag. - pintomp3, on 07/01/2008, -4/+22*sigh* the evolution deniers and global warming deniers have so much in common.
- Coven, on 07/01/2008, -2/+20"Either you are fundamentally irrational, or you are dishonest."
There's always option 3. he's a sad excuse for a troll with nothing better to do. - Dimensio, on 07/01/2008, -3/+20Do you have any argument based upon fact to offer? For example, can you justify your assertion that the theory of evolution is "racist"? Can you show that evolution is "impossible", as you assert?
- nitsuj, on 07/01/2008, -1/+18"Why haven't they all evolved into humans?"
For the same reasons that your cousins didn't evolve into you. Modern day monkeys have evolved. Humans have evolved. We both share common ancestry.
This is such a basic aspect of the theory of evolution that it signifies that you know next to nothing about it. Why then do you make claims that it is '*****'? - inactive, on 07/01/2008, -2/+19Yes, yes you did:
""I am sure something created us""
""I am sure something created us""
""I am sure something created us""
-btschul
If 'something' is not a being, what could it possibly be? You're back peddling, dude. - spen949, on 07/01/2008, -0/+17Uhhh how can you be an atheist and still worship the devil? LOL!
Thinking.... your doing it wrong. - Clydesdale, on 07/01/2008, -1/+18*sigh/Facepalm*
- Hetman, on 07/01/2008, -0/+17You cannot invent a discovery. Religion does not have a monopoly on morality. Please look up kant and utilaterianism, just to name a few morality based philosophy that does not rely on holy texts. Secondly if you think the world was a better place 150 years ago you have never read a history book. I mean if we just look at segregation your hole argument falls apart.
- ApokalypseNow, on 07/01/2008, -0/+17You're perfectly welcome to engage in discussion and voice whatever opinion you have, but don't be surprised if we call you on it when you start talking *****.
- mtrip, on 07/01/2008, -0/+16The world completely believes it. America and Islamic theocracies don't believe it.
- Kafka0622, on 07/01/2008, -0/+16So is gravity. Do you believe in that?
- Cate320, on 07/01/2008, -1/+17Also, Evolution isn't based on chance.
Ever hear of natural selection? The mutations arise by chance, but whether or not they stick around depends on how beneficial they are to the organism. - inactive, on 07/01/2008, -2/+18Ok... So you don't believe we were created by a being per se, but something so complicated that the mind can't possibly comprehend it? We need a name for this thing...
How about... GOD? - Dimensio, on 07/01/2008, -1/+17Please justify your assertion.
- spongya77, on 07/01/2008, -4/+20Please go back to downloading porn, and don't disturb all the serious people here. Mkay?
- shutaro, on 07/01/2008, -2/+17That's a fearsome hat Darwin is wearing, there.
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