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- harumph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+70for christ sakes, get a mutt. they come for free from the pound, they are less prone to dementia, hip displaysia, deafness etc etc, and they have, in general, good blends of dogs better traits. ***** purebred snobbery and you will have a far superior dog, not just in intelligence but in health.
- scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+65When I was a kid and didn't feel like doing my homework, I'd just get my Border collie "Rusty" to do it for me. Those were the days...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58Where is Paris Hilton in the dumbest bitches list?
- mousy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35Lassie not top?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37My last dog was a purebred collie, and it was dumb as a rock. Current dog is a lab/newfoundland mix and he's the smartest one ive ever owned. He notices airplanes going by and will watch them, tracks birds through the sky, and will bring me his leash if he wants to go outside (never trained him to do that, he just equates the leash with going outside). He even trys to "speak" - he'll open and close his mouth while trying to vocalize. It's hard to describe, but its definitely not barking, and he only does it when someone is talking to him. It was pretty freaky the first time he did it... lol.
- an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31The American standard poodle is actually a very cool dog. Why they persist in giving them those ardently homosexual (no offense) topiary-style haircuts will forever be beyond me.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Was it a female dog?
'Cause then, it could have said
"I'm Rick James, Bitch!" - threeandout, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Based on the test, I think it would be better described as most/least obedient dog. Just because they don't listen doesn't mean they are stupid
- willistg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19My family had a standard poodle(the giant ones) when I was a kid it was the greatest dog ever. We dressed it up like Rick James every year for halloween.
- ravenpen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I know this list is specifically basing intelligence on obedience, but as the owner of a Basenji I can tell you that my dog’s refusal to obey has nothing to do with a lack of intellect.
Basenjis are the cats of the dog world. Ever order a car around?
They ignore you cause they don’t care about what you want. They’ll only follow certain commands when it’s in their own best interest to do so.
Not saying that this makes them a desirable breed and to be honest my dog is a complete pain in the ass, but stupid he is not. - CobolNoFun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16what pound are you going to?
i did some < cough cough > "involuntary" community service at the local dog pound where i live, and while there is normally a $20 shot fee, you can talk them to all the way free if your good at haggling. - anvilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Note to those planning to get a dog. If you live in an apartment, or live a busy life that the dog can't participate in, *please* get a dumb dog. This is act of kindness to both you and the dog.
Smart dogs, left alone, are easily bored and will mess up your place. Duller dogs generally don't need as much interaction and don't get into as much trouble. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20"Dumbest = *beagle"
Bush has a beagle. Hmmmmm.
...maybe the only dog that would heed his orders. - theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Yeah, I know. I've had poodles, and I've had German Shepherds. Shepherds are a good bit smarter than poodles. Hell, I would have thought that Shepherds would have been #1 hands down, but I've never been around Collies, so I can't speak from experience there.
As far as Chows being dumb, I doubt that. I've had some Chows and they weren't that dumb. And Mastiffs being dumb? I have a good friend with a Neapolitan, and the only reason he acts dumb is because he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. That bastard (named Tiny!) is 180 lbs. - lazydrumhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13My dog is a mix between australian cattledog and german shepherd....and he doesn't even know how to walk around my couch to get to his treat.
Must be the exception that proves the rule. - bjones26muk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Poodle in second???
- WallyAnti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Poodles are widely known for their intelligence in spite of their ridiculous appearance. I was surprised to not see the Australian Shepherd in the list. My mom keeps one that is among the most intelligent dogs I've ever known.
- lostradamus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I'd say the Afghan hound would be the smartest:
"Roll over"
"***** you" - fredtellum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11You are right on target there. Mutts are great and you'll find an incredible number of them and also "purebred" dogs on death row at the shelter. Never buy a dog from a pet store or breeder. Save the ones that are about to die. They know.
- DeadPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Agree that obedience does not = intelligence.
Mastiff is #3 on the dumbest dog list. I guess that guy never saw Turner and Hooch. - BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9As the previous owner of 3 Lab Retrievers, Australian Cattle Dog, and 1 Golden Retriever I can tell you that the Australian Cattle Dog was FAAAAAAAAAAR more intelligent than the others. Maybe he was unusually bright for his breed?
- unknownunknowns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8There's a great PBS special called 'Dogs and More Dogs.' Here's a choice quote from the transcript ( http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3103_dogs.html ):
"RAY COPPINGER: The time has come where we've just got to give up this kind of "master race" mentality that we have about dogs. Our system of breeding dogs, of isolating small populations called breeds and then practicing eugenics, generation after generation after generation, all of those dogs are inbred beyond belief. It's not good genetics and it's not good dog breeding." - feylanks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10i don't know why this comment is being dugg down for being truthful... the author absolutely defined "intelligent" as obedient. since when is obedience an indication of thinking ability?
- zcreem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Now that is just unkind to dogs.
- chimpski, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@1021
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bulldogs > poodles
and yes, this is a totally racist post.
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Dude, its not racist, its breedist. ;) - LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If you see a dead beagle on the side of the road, it was because the owner was dumb, not the dog. Dogs should never be allowed to be in harm's way and when they are, it is because the owner was negligent. Don't blame a dog for getting in the way of a car.
- brenthals, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The "Aussie" (I have two) is a cousin to the Border Collie, I'd say that ties it with #1.
- GALILEE77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Actually, I'm surprised to see Shih tzus on the list. I've moved a couple of times and the vets I've had have all commented that Shih tzus are smart and easy to train (I know mine was). I will say, however, that if they don't want to do something it will most definitely not get done. I wouldn't say that's a lack of intelligence (if it is then I must be as dumb as a stump).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7read the description at the top for how they are defining "smart"
- quiltmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well the site did say that the first two kinds of dog intelligences are on an individual level.
- wakayama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I AM a border collie, and I'm just glad we got some recognition at last! The only downside to this is that those poncy poodles came in second. Perhaps if they tried a command other than 'down, biatch', the fruits would have bomb out of the the list altogether.
Now, wheres that bloody cat gone? - Coffeedemon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Beagles are dumb as stumps. It doesn't surprise me to see the shizh tzu there either. The only time I remember my grandmother's listening to anything at all was when there was food involved. All interactions seemed to be purely instinctual. Same with others I've run into - if they trust you you're ok. If not it will either pay little attention to you or bite you.
- Durinthal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Seems to be completely copied from this list (first Google result for 'dog intelligence'): http://petrix.com/dogint/
- embarkadero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My 13lb miniature dachshund has been plotting his escape for years. His darting eyes and shifty mannerisms tell me that he is coldly calculating the best route. He deceptively waits for the inevitable opportunity. But I know his bag of tricks. Two months ago he ran head first into the bedroom wall. Recently, he has been caught staring at the floor. Perhaps he will try to dig his way out. The key is to stay two steps ahead of your dog at all times.
- dgmail, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm not sure about the other dogs, but my Jack Russell dugg this last night, emailed me, and said, "f.ck LinkDonkey and Ben Smawfield" :)
- Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If everything was fair, then dogs could vote.
- dongcha9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7my dogs stupid....(sigh)
- Wireddd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I had a chesapeake bay retriever when I was a kid that was the smartest dog I have ever owned. He was also the least trainable.
- Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5To all the naysayers:
The Poodle listed is a Standard Poodle (not that the site says so), and it's not the first time I've seen them listed by the AKC and other dog-oriented institutions as one of the most obedient and eager-to-please dogs - not at all like the 'Toy' Poodles people tend to think of.
My family had one that was 6 when we got him. He'd never been inside IN HIS LIFE (he was a showdog and lived in a barn), and wasn't house-trained. It took ONE (count 'em!) scolding and, I ***** you not, he NEVER tried to 'make' in the house again. Ever. Not once.
That's what's really wrong with the site: these are not the most intelligent dogs (it's hard enough to measure intelligence in humans, much less animals who've been bred in different directions), but the most easily trained and responsive dogs. This is, in actuality, a well-established list of the breeds which are most (and least) owner-friendly and obedient. - mzkw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree with you both. This article is really lame; maybe it's written by a 12 year old nazi ***** or something who thinks intelligence is how good you are at following orders.
- kbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have always secretly suspected my dog was freakin brilliant. Now I know it's true.
- nene7070, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4u made me spill my cereal. damn you
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, obviously, every dog is different. What this article is showing is the typical.
- fredtellum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3blackb0x - what you are saying about dogs at the pound is patently wrong.
Take a look here for examples of dogs that came from the pound http://photosken.blogspot.com - OropheR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4To some people commenting about Beagles...
Beagles are smart, but obedience is an other story. They need training, actually, they need a life long training. They need lots of attention as well. But you get a lot back from it.
More about Beagles. Check my blog (that needs updates but well)
http://beagle-nation.blogspot.com/ - Mark_DeRidder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My border collie is too smart. Sometimes having a dummer dog seems like it would be nice:) But I wouldn't trade Topper for the world. He's a good dog.
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you live in an apartment or lead a busy life that the dog can't participate in, for crying out loud, don't get a dog.
A pet is not an appliance. - fredtellum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Bassetts have their own plans. In fact most hounds have an agenda that you must recognize. This doesn't make them dumb. They just have better things to do than humor you and your training regiment.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6This is so breedist.
- an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They checked their ability (on average) to learn commands. RTFA.
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