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- MemoryDump, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31WoW!
- drw2583, on 10/12/2007, -14/+38If I ever saw someone put their video game "accomplishments" on a job resume, I would shred their application.
- JoshuaWood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27"level 60 tauren shaman in World of Warcraft" - Hey I need to add that to my resume.
- RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24"That's why you're an *****."
So what video games are on your resume? - tharealmegaman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17If I saw it, I would think that this person is willing to do very repetitious tasks for hours on end. Not to mention pay me $15 a month to do it. He's hired.
- Bandito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14So THAT's the problem. All this time I should have been playing World of Warcraft and not Leisure Suit Larry. I've been taking lessons from the wrong game.
- thepotoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13point of interest: The guy didn't get hired because he had a level 60 character; he got hired because, as a guild leader, he was very likely to have good interpersonal communication skills.
- BigPapi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant."
-Dwight Schrute - BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It does involve delegating a lot of power and acting as a leader, I agree.
But....
Communicating over WoW and communicating in a business enviroment are two entirely different things. Especially when everyone in WoW is there to have fun but in the office you have to ask people to do things they really don't want to do. - MrCobaltBlue, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Probably hurt you, the boss might think you're too overpowered for the job.
- pmpc00, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I agree with drw2583, if someone ever mentioned that or put it on a resume, that would end the interview right there.
You say it's like a part time job... so why would i hire anyone who would be distracted with a part time job when I need them focused on my job.
I love video games, i play MMO's, but don't bring that to work, its totally un-professional. - kaisa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6My guild lies, cheats, steals and blackmails. We're VERY successful in both PvE and PvP, but horribly disfunctional. I'm pretty sure that only the most corrupt organisations would take my guild leader.
- BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9That article doesn't specify how he got "an edge" by being a guild master in WoW.
Speculation....interesting read, but it's still just speculation. - helix400, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I just finished the hiring process for several applicants. I made the comment to one of them that we prefer gamers who like complex games that require you to learn or to strategize. Such games show they have the ability to learn on their own, and that is extremely important in the computer world.
Now, not all gamers ranked high. One person we interviewed built 9 computers in his parents basement and plays Warcraft all day long with friends. He doesn't spend much time programming on his own. So, while this person may learn, he has no determination to code or learn new things.
Another person has a background in programming, is going to school for a computer degree, is learning assembly, and plays the computer games Warcraft and Starcraft, as well as the board game Descent. We're going to offer the position to him, because he shows balance, the ability to learn, and the determination to code.
So yes, gaming is looked at highly by some employers, as long as it is balanced with other criteria. - emo1313, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Makes sence, I landed a 2 year long job because the guy who hired me played a mod that I wrote for a game...
- m.sandstorm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This reminds me of that G4 commercial where they guy interviewing was like "You have great skills but what do you mean when you say you're a lv 37 Beastlord?" (0_o)
- pmpc00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Perhaps he got the job, because he was the best candidate, and had nothing to do with him playing WOW. I mean really, why would you even put that on a resume, or let your employer know that?
- Crazen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Except in WoW which is an online game a lot of people feel they can be *****, in the business world, you better have a lot of high level friends before you act the way most people do in WoW, including guild masters.
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I played my Human Paladin up to level 60 in WoW before I got bored and quit, but it certainly didn't help my job. If anything, it made me groggy the next day from those 20 man raids that lasted until 2 AM.
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Maybe if they seriously put that down, but otherwise I'd give them points for at least attempting to be original :)
- ronintetsuro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Vauge article that glosses over this guy's background working at CNET and attributes his success on the job hunt to his passtime.
Shoddy journalism. No digg. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Post enough on Digg and you too can get a high-profile Sanitation Engineering job!
- intangible, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Has your guild leader considered a career in politics?
- thewise1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeah but doesn't that mean he's got an easy button? ;-)
- Browncoat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Anybody can be a leader of a guild if you know the game well enough. And can type really fast...."
True... I used to be a clan leader in a FPS. But I was overthrown and I now work at Taco Bell.... J/k. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6This article doesn't even seem to really explain it's main point. This guy thinks of his job like a WoW quest? This guy needs serious help.
Prediction: You'll be seeing this guy in line to pick up his unemployment check very soon. - thewise1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While being a guild leader may prove management skills, I think I'd avoid that kind of coworker simply because it irks me when people communicate like this:
"plz, need u 2 come in sunday, we lost sum ppl and were playing catch up, thx" - Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Maybe the boss was in the guild? Just more speculation here
- NoOnEx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5He got the "edge" by leading the guild. That proves he has some management skills. The article doesn't say that it was the deciding factor, but anything that proves your worth more gives you an edge.....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Lets see here. PHd and triple majoring at MIT, 4.0 since grade school, countless academic awards and impressive projects... I just don't know abo- oh wait, says here you played WoW? What level? OMG ANY REDS? Oh *****, PvE server, sorry gtfo bluebie.
- foxter, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Dude, relax. It's casual Thursday.
- Schda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I thought it was pretty clear, being a guild leader helped him improve his skills like how to manage people, how to respond quickly to strange situations, etc. So in other words the gameplay subtly helped him hone his RL skills.
- Jetfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It wasn't him playing the game the got him the extra a points. It was the he was a "He was one of the top guild masters" this translates into Manager. WoW is also a more complex game. Even though you can have set strategies to do MC, ONY, BWL, ZG,and AQ Runs ***** can happen that ends in a raid wipe.
Setting up a good Guild is not easy. You have to find good people and work with their personalities to keep out any in fighting. You also have to manage how it is run and improvise when people don’t show up or a monster gets loose and kills you tanks and healers.
From the way the article read he was tied with someone(s) else for the position and his Management of his WoW guild was used to show he had proven leadership skills.
No you won’t see “The day may not be far off when companies receive résumés that include a line reading "level 60 tauren shaman in World of Warcraft."”. But you may see "I taken a small 20 man Guild that did very little to a 120+ Guild run 3 seperate raid groups though Ony, MC, BWL,nad AQ in 3 days every week. We're now ranked number 3 of all the Guilds and will be number 1 soon" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"If I ever saw someone put their video game "accomplishments" on a job resume, I would shred their application."
Obviosly you don't hire for a game design company.... - SupermanX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I am putting my video game accomplishments on my resume.... because I am applying to an online community managment position. If the people hiring me dont appreciate the relevance, then I dont want to work for the company... as they dont know what they are doing.
There is nothing wrong with putting your recreational activities on your resume, they just need to be applicable to the job you are applying for. Experience is experience... no matter where you got it. - accidental, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3LMAO. He got the easiest class to 60 and runs a guild in one of the easiest, most brain dead MMOs you can play and that landed him a senior job at Yahoo? No wonder they're losing the battle, BADLY, to Google :P
- m.sandstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The key to a good guild is to grow slowly. Many of the large guilds on my servers have broken up cause they were zerged when they were initially formed. There were no real requirements to get into those guilds and they ended up failing and breaking up forming other guilds.
- Magistrate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm kinda getting sick of seeing Wired articles jump from the Wired News: Top Stories list to Digg.
P.S. The description is totally irrelevent. - alasdairdf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"i have never played WOW, but is 60 the highest level you can get to?"
Yes. - Alphabet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3your problem is that you're too old fashioned. Whether it's online or offline, a good leader still needs certain skills. And if a guild leader manages to keep a guild of 30 to 60 people in check, settles disputes between members, build alliances, and organizes hunts, then it's a good chance he's a good leader in real life situations as well.
- ramiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Communicating over WoW and communicating in a business enviroment are two entirely different things."
Agreed. For instance, as a Guild Master you can threaten "50 DKP MINUS!" for aggroing the whelps. I can't picture anything similar to that in a business enviroment. - drw2583, on 10/12/2007, -0/+125+ hours a week organizing events so your characters can get better gear for bragging rights in a fictional fantasy world - Just imagine if we could get this kind of motivation in the workforce in the REAL world.
I can see it now - "Whoever makes the most sales this week has the choice between a $100 bonus or xxx gold coins in WoW!". - leftover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been failing all my life. Does that mean I'm a genius through "accidental learning"?
- reynhout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article doesn't even indicate that Yahoo knew about his gaming hobby when they hired him -- just that the experience might be useful to him...
For reference, I worked with the guy (not at CNET, at one of the small unnamed companies). He's smart, works hard, and people like working for him. For any company, that's an ideal hire into a leadership position.
The same qualities are also useful (presumably) in running a guild in online gaming. Or running a large open source project. Or a community volunteer group. Et cetera. Any one of those things would probably be a useful point of information for a prospective employer.
BTW, one of the authors of the article also worked at the same company. Those complaining about shoddy journalism should understand that it isn't journalism. It's writing. That's what he does, nowadays. If enough people believe you have interesting insights into the world, they'll pay you just to write stuff like that article. Which gets your name out in front of other people who might wonder who has interesting ideas, and the cycle perpetuates. It's like being a rock star, except the residuals are vastly better. - sencha5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Moocat:
That might be the case. Where I work, all the supervisors/managers are in their own WoW guild. Funny thing is, all regular employees always try to get into the guild, sorta like a l33t "playin' golf with the boss" kind of hierarchy going on. - Jetfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1m.sandstorm, Thats my point it's no easy to set up a funtioning large Guild that is successful.
kaisa, maybe you guild could be Lawyers or Politicians.
rain9441 & drw2583, STFU we're just having fun. It's no different than sports nuts and other hobbies. rain9441 if you RTFA you would see this guy "Gillett had been responsible for CNET's backend, and he had helped launch a number of successful startups.", so he was no slacker. - MrPink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I play beer pong.
- m.sandstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Time management my friend. I noticed I was spending too much time in raids so I started to manage my time online. I basically didn't join any raids, guild or otherwise if it was after a certain time. Thus ensuring that I was able to get up the next morning.
(^-^) - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Except, imagine doing all those things with a bunch of people who have an average maturity level of a 12 year old and you get a better idea what its like."
To be fair, the average WoW player doesn't have a much higher maturity level either... - duality, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1scheper, I don't know if you're comment was meant to be serious or sarcastic. However, it's right on the mark in either case.
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