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- datagod, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31If Microsoft wants me to buy an Xbox, they should have let me hookup my own hard-drive.
I mean seriously, you can't even BUY a 70gb drive these days. The smallest I found at the local shop was 300Gb. - seanm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18It's most likely a development kit (which have bigger hard drives).
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15What sizes were the 2.5" SATA drives at said store? Not 300GB, that's for sure.
- jblade, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Could just be photoshop, but it makes sense with Microsoft likely beginning to sell HD movies.
- millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I believe 2.5" drives cap off at about 120GB, but I could be wrong. It's close to that, I'm sure.
- imjosh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You mean a USB port?
- SSCrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You know there is the XSATA drive that saves data to your computer.
SO you can use a 500gb hard drive for your X360
Heres a link
http://us.codejunkies.com/news_reviews.asp?c=US&cr=&cs=&r=0&l=&p=8&i=8990&s=8 - yensed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Who actually thinks the 20GB(Really is 13GB) is large enough? I sure don't. That baby fills up Fast!
- McGrude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8NO *****. (no insult seanm, I'm agreeing).
Does anyone really doubt that MS can not format a drive of any size that the XBox 360 will not accept? They're just holding off on us.
The movie downloads are very likely to be able to be stored to an external hard disk drive connected via usb. Why else would you think they're allowing us to play WMV files from external usb drives? It simplifies permitted both DRM'd and non DRM'd WMV files.
We could already play mp3 music files from an external device.
All that's left is save games and game demos. That really does not require much. I mean come on, how long are you _really_ going to keep the Rainbow Six: Vegas demo on the hard disk? Two, three, maybe seven more days? Then Poof its gone, ready for the next 300 to 1000 MB demo download. - nizzy1115, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You idiot, the xbox 360 CAN play videos and music from an external hard drive. Congratulations you have a flash drive with a movie on it! I'm so proud of you!
But seriously, the only thing external hard drives cannot be used for is for game saves, and downloadable content from the marketplace. This is the reason for a bigger hard drive being necessary. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Explain the empty indicator bar then.
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Because we all know Microsoft shipped drives that large in the original XBox.
Or, put another way, some of us *like* to keep our warranties intact. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It no longer rounds after the Halloween dashboard update; it displays to the nearest tenth of a GB now.
- merdiesel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Am I the only one that threw up at the sight of a Geek Squad ad on Digg?
- WhereAmI, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6We had a hoax like this before. This one seems a bit legit, but we shall see.
At least if you are going to post a rumor, type:
RUMOR: - xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just make sure the HDD is FAT32, otherwise it won't work, Xbox 360 won't work with NTFS drives.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@datagod
360s uses laptop hard drives (2.5"). 80GB 2.5" drives are very common. I've never seen a 70GB 2.5" drive, but it's quite possible it's an 80GB with roughly 10GB taken up by file system and saved info. (also the 360 severly rounds the number, so an even 70GB isn't a weird number)
@millixaw
Toshiba makes a 200Gb 2.5" drive. That's the largest i've seen.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822149059 - juanotejano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Or the not so ***** microsoft will repair any 2005 xbox 360 for free? I think that's a pretty good warranty.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You replied to your own Comment
You lose at Digg - Toad008, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My theory is it's a dev box with a bigger (say 80 gig) drive in it. The reason the indicator bar is empty is because the Xbox firmware isn't made to support an 80 gig hard drive (since it's not commercially available), thus the indicator bar does not know which drive size option to follow, as it's not a compatible / expected drive size.
I'm just thinking they used something that just specifies the model of the hard disk, and that gets mapped to the max size, instead of reading it off the disk information. May not be any easier (or a smart way of doing it). Still a possibility, especially when you have total control over the hardware components. (I use logic like that on some of the embedded devices I work with, as the OS is so limited, it has no max capacity command)
Until I hear something more official from Microsoft, I think this is just a false rumor. - darthsnoopy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4you must not have a 360...it 'rounds' everything. Also, this is showing 'free space' not the drive capacity. that could be a 250gig drive with a chunk of it already used. As mentioned above, this is widely believed to be a pic of a dev kit from a while back
- dzmetcalf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3...As said here and on engadget probably just a dev kit.
- knodi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Its says 70 Gigs free don't the size of the harddrive.
- VipeNess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well i hope so, since they are stating you can download HD Movies to your XBOX360 over marketplace. they should come out with something bigger for the future.
- ersnyder, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6If it were real, the Free Space as viewed through the Operating System would read something like "67.3 GB Free." Not 70GB even. No hard drive is true to it's size rating once you have it installed, formatted and a file system is running on it.
- davidmackey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3LMAO @ M$ playing catch up now. All they cared about was getting the 360 out before the PS3,and now they're paying the price. HD DVD addon, bigger hard drive. What's next?
- BlueBoiks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2External drives don't show up as devices. They show up in media, because you can't save games and xbox live marketplace content to an external.
Really you can upgrade your xbox 360 hard drive all you need it a T6 Torx screwdriver a new sata 2.5 hard drive and a copy of Norton Ghost. Hook up both hard drives to your pc as you would any normal sata drive, yes the drive is a standard 2.5" sata 150 notebook hard drive, only the interface between the xbox and the xbox hard drive case is proprietary. Once you have done this put it all back together and bam you have all the space you need for awhile. - pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that pic says "70 GB free". the installed software takes about 7 gb, so it would have to be BIGGER than 70 GB. Perhaps 80, perhaps 100.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1people are already whining abt the HD DVD being an external peripheral instead of being integrated. this would make it worse. not to mention that they could offer higher capacities if it had been external.
- LordDshyzL, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3you can use any usb size hard drive already on the 360, they dont want you to have anything on your 360 that isn't bought from microsoft but when you transfer it over from a usb hard drive, who cares what microsoft wants. PLus if you really want ton of room get a Datel transfer kit for 50 usd and you can link your 360 to your computer hard drive(like i do with my 250g) and save all your games to your pc hard drive.
- BlueBoiks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1External drives don't show up as devices. They show up in media, because you can't save games and xbox live marketplace content to an external.
Really you can upgrade your xbox 360 hard drive all you need it a T6 Torx screwdriver a new sata 2.5 hard drive and a copy of Norton Ghost. Hook up both hard drives to your pc as you would any normal sata drive, yes the drive is a standard 2.5" sata 150 notebook hard drive, only the interface between the xbox and the xbox hard drive case is proprietary. Use Norton Ghost to copy the current hard drive to the new one and lose no current content already on there. Once you have done this put it all back together and bam you have all the space you need for awhile.
References:
http://360.xbox-hq.com/xbox-tutorials-print-3.html
http://360.xbox-hq.com/xbox-tutorials-print-17.html - fugazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I guess they know what type of market to go after...
- bamcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm thinking this new drive will attach to the HD DVD player so that the 20GB is not rendered useless.
Just a guess.
-Brian - yensed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1GTA-5 on 5 dvd's? XP
- LanceUppercut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they'd rather you download it again or purchase a memory card or whatever they have for your saved games ;)
I don't own a 360 but I assume they have a record of you purchasing something tied to your xbox Mac address or the internal serial # hard coded into the cpu itself. One would think they would allow you to download things you already purchased again if they did offer an upgraded hard drive. - xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think its 70 GB Slovenian6474 because of formatting, and the reserved space for Cache, updates and Emulation for Xbox 1 games.
- BigEv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yo, kids, as stated before this is either a dev kit or a test kit. The kits all come with 70GB harddrives.
- McGrude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@strictnein,
Why wrong? Can you cite a quoation where Microsoft has stated that they can not be stored to an external drive?
If Microsoft has the DRM system working correctly on the Xbox 360 they have nothing to fear for an external file system. - gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dev kit or not, sooner or later they will market an upgrade higher capacity hard drive. Why else would they have gone through all the trouble to make it removable?
- gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Of course not.
- willgonz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How do they think I am going to be able to transfer my data from my 20 gig drive? Without breaking any Microsoft Laws.
- gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who's to say the upgrade hard drive wouldn't have a mini usb plug to transfer the partitions from the 20 gb drive.
- romega2683, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The files system on the PS3 is different to that of the Xbox 360, in terms that it cannot read external hard drives bigger than 30gb (33gb to be precise). It is the same with div-x players with usb readers.
- deal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0100gb... but, I think an external drive would be much cheaper.
- gcooldude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Do I have to use Norton Ghost or can I just buy a new HD, slap it in the new case and not worry about getting my old saved data?
- superfist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Alright, I have a 160GB 3.5" Buffalo External Hard Drive that is formatted FAT32 which my PS3 recognizes easily and immediately. Why is it that my Xbox 360 cannot recognize it? I've checked under the Media section of the Xbox 360 Dashboard with no success. There is also no portable device listed in the System section under Memory. I've looked over this board and read about people mentioning that it reads flash drives; like my Secure Digital Card via a USB adapter - that works no problem. What is it about these external drives that makes it difficult to read on the Xbox 360? Some of you on this board are claiming that it works with ANY external drive. Could it be that it only recognizes certain drives and not all of them? Don't chew my head off, I'm just curious and I want to be able to access the same media that I can use on my PS3 on the 360. Help anyone?
- tficast, on 12/17/2008, -0/+0That's because many years ago hard drive vendors got together and decided to lie to us. The marketers decided to make 1MB 1000KB. Multiply that up and 1GB becomes 1000MB. In actuality 1MB is 1024KB and 1GB is 1024MB. So, a 120GB hard drive is actually 120,000MB. Divide that by 1024 and you get about 117GB. In the Xbox 360, you need 8GB for Xbox 1 compatibility which leaves with 109GB and then there is a partition 0 (swap space I think) which must use 2GB and that leaves you with 107gb.
Any how, for info on how to upgrade your HDD cheap and transfer all your stuff, check out http://tech.redcat.us - megaixxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hi I tried to use The Norton Ghost to copy the current data to my new hard drive. The Norton Ghost will not read what is in my old hard drive. I wanted to know if i did something wrong.
- Palom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://gizmologia.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/100gbx360.jpg
- jamieleblanc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Please disregard my last reply. I found out there was a small amount (7MB) of space at the beginning of the drive that wasn't partitioned, so the XBOX 360 couldn't read it due to that. Once I forced the partition to use the 7MB it worked. :)
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