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- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -17/+190Worried about Blizz finding out about your midget anal bestiality fem-dom porn collection?
- JustEvk, on 10/12/2007, -7/+119Uh oh.
- Lixie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+98Sounds like they're already doing the same thing Battlefield 2142 is trying to do. At least EA was honest about it being for selling advertising.
Blizzard selling it as "anti-cheating measures". *****. - EdHaber, on 10/12/2007, -2/+82History.IE5 is used by IE 6 and 7 also.
I see iTunes on my computer (running Vista) has that handle open too.
I'm pretty sure any program that is using IE for HTTP/S instead of another dll or Winsock them selfs will have those files opened.
I wrote a small C# app that used the Webclient (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.net.webclient.aspx) class to download files and it also had the History.IE5 and Content.IE5 handles opened.
So... this means nothing. Other than they were lazy and didn't want to write their own implementation of HTTP.
-Ed - NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+77Hmm lets see
porn
porn
porn
pr0n
porn
homework
porn
pr0n
homework
wallpaper
music
porn
more porn
ISO's
Torrents
porn
I'm sure thats what most of the histories looked like - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -5/+74There comes a point when it goes too far. Looking at my WOW local files? Fine. Spying on my browsing history? It serves no purpose, because even if I was looking for hacks it doesn't mean that I use them.
I'm angry, and I don't even play WOW. - Freshjive787, on 10/12/2007, -9/+73invasion of privacy? i think so.
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+64I'm pretty sure browsing those sites isn't against the TOS. Proving you have been doesn't prove you've been cheating
- toast1226, on 10/12/2007, -5/+65WoW, guess firefox is the only way to go.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+57People still use AOL.
Any questions? - UltimaNut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+50Not enough porn
- twtmc, on 10/12/2007, -63/+104Starcraft and Warcraft III were there last 2 good games. WoW sucks. IE sucks. Don't use either.
- teetow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Yes, people still play WoW. Seven million of them, actually.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Because I'm sure it doesn't know how to access firefox's internet history :p
- kopaka649, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Not very conclusive. For all we know it could be an embedded IE control in WOW that it's keeping track of.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26You forgot the most important want that they are really looking for..
World Of Warcraft porn. - BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29Someone post Blizzard's complaints addy so we can spam the hell out of it. This is *****.
Good thing I don't use IE. - TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I doubt it says "We may scan your private data for cheats" labelled on the front of the game.
- kanavulator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Whoa, spyware AND Celine Dion music? CD from hell...
- draget0, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25people still use IE?
- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Umm......clear your history?
Especially after watching midget anal bestiality fem-dom porn. - emiles, on 10/12/2007, -17/+32Wow, that sure is a scathing and well thought out criticism, Chicken and twtmc.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Or maybe we can not jump to conclusions like mindless sheep and find out what's going on. We see that WoW somehow accessed the file.
We don't know if he's running any custom UI mods that might have done it.
We don't even know if this kind of activity is legalized in the EULA. - EricCosky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I wouldn't even call it lazy. I'd call it smart to reuse the IE HTTP services for retrieving data. While code that implements simple HTTP stuff is pretty easy to do, using IE services gives the application the benefit of caching, which can make a big difference to their servers when dealing with the number of users Blizzard has.
- ZeoFateX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15"WoW uses IE to display updated information to you when WoW is launched. Nothing more."
This is correct. WoW has a launcher that accesses the internet to get the latest news about WoW before launching the game... I'm assuming it uses IE for this. They're not dumb enough to *just* look at IE (5's) history. If they are checking out your history they would be looking at much more then that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft_Launcher
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/launcher.html
http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_Launcher - ajb2015, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18I don't play wow and I don't use IE, but i'm ***** pissed. If there aren't laws against this, why aren't there yet? I don't give a ***** about TOS. I should be able to play a video game without worrying that my personal life is going to be investigated.
- RamanujanRedux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17You hurt yourself by using IE. They're doing them a favor.
- kida001, on 10/12/2007, -11/+24Well it's a good thing I use Firefox.
- OnoTadaki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13This is entirely unconclusive and inacurate. For all we know WoW could be saving cache files from the news ticker in the launcher or a plethora of other reasons. Did anyone think they might be using the temp folder for what it's supposed to be used for?
- Rorrim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Holy ***** how did you hack into my history?!?! O_O
- orlandogeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I concur. This is a logical explanation rather than the typical spastic conspiratorial crap seen above.
- bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Not really sure what you're trying to say. Safari keeps your browsing history too, just like every other browser out there.
~/Library/Safari/History.plist - NotZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The WoW Launcher is Launcher.exe.
WoW.exe, which is the actual game, accesses IE's index.dat.
Launcher.exe, the program that gives news, also accesses IE's index.dat.
Both programs could simply be calling IE internally.. - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Holy crap, people! Look, we all know, you shouldn't use IE, get Firefox. We understand. STOP SAYING IT!
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I'm so angry about this that I'm not logging in tonight out of protest. ***** Blizzard!
*changes system time to 11:59* - alastria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Take the tin foil off your head...
Any app which uses ShDocVW.DLL (the IE browser component) loads the IE history, because that app is running an IE instance within the app. I'm a shareware author, and one of my apps uses ShDocVW to preview calendars saved in HTML. I see the IE5 history file loaded in my app right now, and I know that my app can't even read that file. I *seriously* doubt that Blizzard can either. - DrGamez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9True. The WoW Launcher does launch ***** with IE so... perhaps that's it?
- Reziarfg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Can't people get DSL for the same price as AOL dial-up nowadays?
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10pr0n is supposed to be a secret codename so your parents don't understand it.
- dwemer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Why does the person have Guild Wars and WoW open at the same time?
- ptrader, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14* * * NOTICE OF FINAL WARNING * * *
Account Name: XXXXXXXXX
Account Action: 72 Hour suspension
Offense: Violation of Exploitation and Client/Server Manipulation Policy - Unapproved Third Party Software
Details: Found to be using unapproved third party software that gave the player an unfair advantage over other World of Warcraft players.
The actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for World of Warcraft by the In-Game Support staff of Blizzard Entertainment. Based on a review of the information presented, this World of Warcraft account has been given a final warning and a 72 hour account suspension, in addition to any previous warnings issued. Until the suspension has been lifted, the account will not be accessible. Please note that Blizzard Entertainment will be unable to provide further information regarding the specific time an account will become accessible again. Be aware that any additional inappropriate actions may result in the permanent closure of the account.
Thank you for respecting our position on this matter.
Any disputes or questions concerning this account action can only be addressed by Account Administration. To learn more about how Account Administration is able to assist you, please visit us at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/.
Please visit the World of Warcraft Policies and Terms of Use Agreement: (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01712p) and (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/termsofuse.shtml) for further information.
Account Administration wishes to alert all players to a new page on our support site, designed to clearly outline behavior which players should avoid in order to continue adventuring in the lands of Azeroth and beyond. Please take a few moments to peruse this informative article." (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=aDisplay02046p)
Regards,
Hatagerak
Account Administration
Blizzard Entertainment
This was what the bastards sent me, and we did not have any 3rd party software. A P2P program was running in the background. Beware of doing that, or you may get this e-mail too. - DigeratiPrime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9it is scanning the index.dat file used by Microsoft Internet Explorer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index.dat
"It functions as a repository of redundant information, such as web URLs, search queries, and recently opened files." - Dylan16807, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8C:Documents and Settings [Username] Local SettingsApplication DataMozillaFirefoxProfiles [Randomized Profile Name] Cache
- Engival, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7daeken,
Maybe they're using http to get the announcement message at the login screen. - myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Where does WoW get the Breaking News info for the front page from? I'm gonna guess it uses the same method as the launcher.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Internet Error (Yes, that was a joke)
- Gryph1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Right, we need more info than this. The question isn't what is it looking at, could just be some web framework it's using? The question is: What does it send back to Blizzard?
Also it's not WoW.exe that does the checking right? It's Warden right? Is that through a seperate process? - pcx99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This is just an anual rehash of a function of the warden that's been in the game since day one.
The warden doesn't send back your browser's history, what it does is receive a list of things to look for from blizzard, which then checks to see if anything on your computer matches anything on that laundry list.
Yea I'm sure blizzard could instruct it to look for dealings with midget porn sites but in reality they're looking for activity on known hack/cheat sites. That alone probably wouldn't be enough to get you banned but it would raise a red flag that would step up the audits done on your system.
And before anyone goes crying about civil rights and how blizzard has no right to do this, go re-read the terms of service again please, if you don't agree with it, stop playing the game -- you can stop playing the G A M E right? right? Uh-huh.
Anyway the midget bestiality spanking snowball site you visited last night isn't going to be flashing on some blizzard worker's monitor. The warden doesn't work like that. It looks for only what it's told to look for, it's not sending your digital life back to blizzard. - Toloran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This is as old as dirt. The warden program that Blizzard uses has ALWAYS done this (among other things). The guy who started the original stink about this started it because he got banned for hacking and the program caught him.
The warden program does scan a variety of things on your computer but it DOESN'T send that data to blizzard. It compares the data it finds against a local file that has a variety of known hacking related tools, websites, and keywords. If it gets a hit, then it sends a red flag to blizzard.
Now, there was the recent issue of a linux program (specifically, a particular build of it) that was triggering a red flag. However, MOST of the linux users caught in that particular banning spree WERE in fact using hacks (although some were innocent and those people DID get their accounts back). - Koskun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh noes, a screenshot showing that something accessed the internet, and it seems to have used IE, those two alone generally will get it to the front page of digg, but add in WoW and it is almost a slam dunk.
Marked as inaccurate. CoH did the SAME thing when it would update the "news" in the launcher. -
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