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- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+54Let's enslave the world and build a big *****-off pyramid?
- AnteChronos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+55@SomaliWarLord
"that game is gay . . . its so gayy the graphcis are gay . . . its just gay"
You can always tell the pre-teens on WoW because they're the ones who use "gay" as an insult. - mortigon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44Yea... Starcraft 2... Diablo 3... Warcraft 4.... I hope all of those come out before I have to get married. :P
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43More work has gone into making level 60s than into developing Linux.
- ersatzphi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+36Imagine if you took all the leisure hours of everyone in the world and imagine what could be accomplished with those hours. Whats your point?
- SlvrEagle23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25If we took all of those hours and divided them back out amongst the population, I'm pretty sure all of us would have plenty of time to sit around and do nothing...
...which is just what we deserve after working our asses off all day. Quit imagining productive ***** for us to do. I'm tired. - FizixMan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34Assume every one of those people invested 100 hours into the game. (for many people, it's more like 100 days)
Imagine what could have been accomplished with 850 million hours of work or productive hobbies? - ArntorFTL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I quit that game in January and haven't looked back. It's amazing the amount of real accomplishments I have made in my life since. Never again do I get sucked into that empty life.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22"Yea... Starcraft 2... Diablo 3... Warcraft 4.... I hope all of those come out before I have to get married. :P"
Well, since Duke Nukem Forever is gonna come out on your wedding day, I have no doubts SC2, Diablo3, and WC4 will be out before then. - wvaughan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+228.5 million subscribers x $15 per month = $127,500,000.00
With the addition of the Arena Tournament, WoW is starting to take on some of the attributes of a team sport. Perhaps in a few years we'll see major advertisers start to sponsor WoW Arena team. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16all compact discs have giant holes in them, and how do you buy them? ALL STACKED UPON EACH OTHER! Same sexed cds are all riding each other when you buy them, they do have sexual preference!
/i can find phalic/sexual in anything - SirBriggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Well, minus the cost of running all of those servers and employing moderators and programmers....but still...lotta money.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I love how you morons blame your lack of responsibility on a game, as if the game made you do anything.
Look, I'm sorry you had a problem with balancing real life and a game, but in the end YOU were the problem, not WoW.
GTFO with that *****. I'm so sick of people always pretending to be some sort of victim.
You obviously aren't able to handle the game and it's not for you.. neither are a lot of things in life if you're so easily swayed by this. Move on and quit making it out to be some crazed thing. - trubbleshute, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Without going back as far as MUDs, it is amazing how far MMO's have come in the last 5 years. I hope Blizzard keeps up with WoW for as long as possible and I think it's entirely possible-- but I also think they should make another Starcraft RTS but what do I know?
- sedo1800, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12thats lvl 70s not 60
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13You need at least 350 athletic resistance to tank the gym
- tim507, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13if I had $2 for every subscriber i'd have 17 million
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Quit just before Christmas, I hadn't realized how much of my life it was sucking up until I did. I wasn't even enjoying it anymore, it took quitting for me to see it.
By no means saying that this would be the case for everyone, but the amount of time this game requires you to put in on a regular basis (read 4/5+ hours most nights a week) to keep up with raiding is absurd. The changes to the honour system were definitely a step in the right direction however, so at least Blizzard are recognizing this fact. - Shuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10For me, this reads: "Starcraft 2 announcement delayed for another few years"
- Four20, on 10/12/2007, -14/+24+500,000 more people with no life
- Lionhart, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I guess more people care about WoW than Linux then. I guarantee at least half of the people that digg Linux stuff on Digg have never used it.
- skyfire1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Personally, I'd wish they'd make a MMO that wasn't geared so much toward grinding to the next level. I also wished everything wasn't level based. I'm still looking forward to Two Worlds.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The reason so many people are "addicted" (and I use that term very loosely, explained below), is because it's such a fine blend of multiple genres that almost anything else fails in comparison.
There's the strategy aspect of balancing your build and fighting against other classes, the action aspect of real time combat... PvP servers for those who enjoy randomly killing people for lulz, PvE servers for those who are experienced in MMOs and hate getting ganked.
Plus being an MMO, it's a very... social atmosphere. It's one of those games that pretty much makes gaming history. All future MMO type games will look to WoW for inspiration, just like classic games in the past morphed console games into various directions.
All these things in one singe place could possibly give one a feeling of disappointment in single player games because there's really something for everyone in this game. Of course, not everyone likes the same type of games so not *everyone* will like it, just like there are some who didn't like Gears of War.. but it's still a damn good game, MMO or not.
As far as being "addicted", it's just a game. Everyone has played a game at some point where they easily lost 4 or 5 hours in it because they were having so much fun. Being that this game is so large and there's always something to do at any given point, it's not uncommon to see people always playing it, mistakenly viewed as an addiction.
Hell, I was playing it 4 or 5 hours a day EASILY at one point, but that's only because most everything else was uninteresting. I'd socialize with friends probably twice a week, but outside of that... bored with console games. I usually workout 20 or 30 mins in the AM before heading into work, so I didn't exactly have a sedentary lifestyle. Still got caught up on my college classes and performed well.
I think you just get attention whores who feel sorry for themselves generally replying in threads like this all, "I quit that addiction months ago, so glad I haven't looked back" as if they were some type of victim because they don't have the ability to discern real life responsibilities from a ***** game. Like trying to pass blame and convince others it's bad instead of simply saying, "Yeah, I ***** up." - bseay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Imagine if you applied your algorithm to TV.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"what the hell is a productive hobby?"
work? - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10More work has gone into getting level 60 for any WoW player than in the last Congress.
- kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11If even 3 million of those people live in the USA, that means 1 in 100 people you know(on average) plays WoW, scary stuff.
- akinnee, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11let's smoke weed instead ok? =]
- tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8wow. if i had a dollar for every subscriber, i'd have $8.5 million
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6See this page for EULA of World of Warcraft:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/eula.html;jsessionid=FDE9F275AD70B33A5CB30301D9083F63.app05
Specifically: 14. Dispute Resolution and Governing Law
Some highlights:
you and Blizzard agree to first attempt to negotiate any Dispute (except those Disputes expressly provided below) informally for at least 30 days before initiating any arbitration or court proceeding. Such informal negotiations commence upon written notice from one person to the other. Blizzard will send its notice to your billing address and email you a copy to the email address you have provided to us. You will send your notice to Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., P.O. Box 18979, Irvine CA 92623, attn: Legal Department.
Binding Arbitration. If you and Blizzard are unable to resolve a Dispute through informal negotiations, either you or Blizzard may elect to have the Dispute (except those Disputes expressly excluded below) finally and exclusively resolved by binding arbitration. Any election to arbitrate by one party shall be final and binding on the other. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ABSENT THIS PROVISION, YOU WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUE IN COURT AND HAVE A JURY TRIAL.
Sorry to say it, but you already signed away your rights to a Jury Trial and Class Action lawsuits... So you're probably S.O.L.
The binding arbitration clause is a favorite among most EULAs and Cell Phone contracts these days. - Mitijea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I am ambivalent about how your comment affects me - on the one hand I'm sorry that making money for the sake of making money is what makes you happy, but on the other hand I'm glad you have found something that does make you happy. Too many people can't seem to find happiness, or reject it because they feel what makes them happy isn't good for them/a sin/immoral/slothful/etc..
So, I'll go with the latter and be happy for you. - overbored454, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9It's really hard to beat a behemoth that tends to satisfy every level of online gamer from the casual, play every now and then player all the way up to the hardcore, stay up for three nights with no sleep gamer. It doesn't take itself too seriously, and you can choose how much or little PvP or grouping you do. In spite of that, other MMORPGs are sticking with their own formulas (with success in some cases) but WoW is doing it pretty good.
- Corbet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Guess what, every game revolves around pressing the same buttons in different combinations with a different UI. That's the nature of EVERY game. You must have never played any RPGs because almost all of them require you to level up your character.
- Disodium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Ding!
- Disodium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5what the hell is a productive hobby?
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+4skyfire1, I agree. I'd like to see a skill-based system similar to The Elder Scrolls series.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No need... Only you can save yourself.
For me, I saw how much time I was spending away from my family in a computer chair and I didn't like it. - chingy1788, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3More work has gone into WoW than MS Windows Vista
hehehe - morningmatters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Great game but a bit too addictive for it's own good.
- Sarauble, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14Blizzard has made it known they plan to announce their next project within the next two quarters... If I remember right. Speculation and their recent hires point to a new RTS.
That being said, WoW has become the 100-ton gorilla of the MMO world, and rightly so. It has the correct mix of fun and funny, with enough difficulty for such a broad range, it's hardly surprising they can't make everyone happy with it. There's a lot of complaints on the WoW forums, but the game itself is very, very good. - usefulidiot, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8after grinding like mad 6+ hours a day to get to 60 and raiding EVERY day with my guild, jew'ing warriors + new pvp system is what gave me a reason to leave. Im glad i quit, that game is worse than crack, i get a lot more done in a day now too.
- doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules." - LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5wow. if i had a nickel for every subscriber, i'd have $425,000
- championchap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nono, I say lets build a great big welcome pyramid!
- hawkspur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In all honesty, WoW is just something I do in my free time and I enjoy it. Most of my friends play WoW and we get together every weekend and have a good ole fashioned LAN party.
As lame as it sounds, Blizzard is obviously doing something right to have so many subscribers. - drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's amazing how successful WoW has become. When i first saw the game, I scoffed. It looked rather cartoony and the game mechanics appeared to be dumbed-down to the point of idiocy. But, then you take a deeper look and they have incorporated the most customizable UI I have ever seen, a beautiful world that is full of color and curves ( anyone remember all the strait lines in EQ? ), and they keep the game mostly balanced for both PvP and PvE gameplay styles. The only negative thing I can say about the WoW experience is their lack of customer service. Their in-game GM's are neutered to the point of uselessness.
- Jergens, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Is that 8.5 million "active" subscribers? Or is it just 8.5 million people who have signed on at some point to play the game. Because if that's the case there are probably a few million like me who were addicted to the game (for over a year, sad to say), but eventually gave it up when they realized they didn't have 6 hour blocks of time to get any further in a high-level instance.
- doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you're right, blizz doesn't make that much money, but not for that reason, if you pay for months in advance you get a discount per month, you can get 3 months for only $41.97($13.99 per month) or $77.94 for Six Months ($12.99 per month)
from blizzards 8 million press release (they haven' actually said anything official for 8.5million)
http://www.blizzard.com/press/070111.shtml
"Player population in North America now exceeds 2 million, while Europe and China pass the 1.5 million player and 3.5 million player marks, respectively"
"World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, I raided once upon a time. Never again. Mainly because they added a casual reward system where you can get great gear (PvP) for just playing at your leisure. I hated scheduling game time.. "Can't go out thursdays, have a raid." Of course, I have open minded friends who do other equally pointless stuff during the week (clubs, bars) so they didn't mind much.
Before you had to fight to High Warlord and that was just basically a "who can play the longest" type of thing to get any chance at non-raid gear.
Now, if you wanna play only 5 hours a week.. you still keep your points to spend on gear. - parent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 8.5 million users and there are probably 600,000 that play over 100 hours a week (16+ hours a day)
I played wow for about a year, and when they came out with the update I felt like I raided every night for absolutely nothing, I'm so glad i was able to get away from it -
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