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Will Halo 3 Breath Life Into Halo Movie?

2old2play.com — Peter Jackson says Halo 3 will re-build interest for the Halo movie, bringing back potential partners like 20th Century Fox and Universal Pictures.

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  • i208khonsu, on 10/11/2007, -39/+11If there is a God, the answer is NO.
    • chocobomog, on 10/11/2007, -26/+11Agreed, *if* the Halo movie is to succeed it needs to either be removed from Producer Peter Jackson, or force him to show his "passion" for the project by directing it himself. As long as he is adamant in forcing Neill Blomkamp and his current (lack of) experience as a director, this movie is doomed. Sure, he's made a few 10 minute films. But there is a huge difference in directing a self-financed, 10 minute film with a cast and crew of 7 people and directing a highly-anticipated, CG-heavy, studio-financed, $200 million dollar blockbuster with a cast and crew of 500+. He needs to cut his teeth on some (much) smaller studio films first before he can even think about doing something this large.

      Want more proof? Look at last year's "Eragon" based on a popular series with millions of sales to date. It was led by first-time director Stefen Fangmeier who was a visuals effect director on major films like T2, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, and the effects-heavy Lemony Snicket. He had vast experience in special effects (way more than Neill) but no experience in directing a movie. The dragon effects in the movie were amazing, but the movie absolutely sucked. And Stefen has worked in the movie industry for decades whereas Neill has yet to work on a single studio-financed movie. Hell, even Uwe Boll has more experience than Neill Blomkamp.

      But of course Peter Jackson wants Neill to do it because Jackson will make money for doing nothing. The reason why the movie was canceled the first time was because Jackson demanded Fox and Universal fund the entire $200 million budget, and yet only receive 40% of the gross. The rest would go to Microsoft and Jackson's companies. So by doing nothing more than putting his name on the film, Jackson would make millions of dollars and the studios had to hope a first-time director would make a movie capable of earning over $500 million in order to break even after marketing costs.

      I love Jackson's work, and think Halo could be a fun movie if made correctly, but this pissing match Jackson is having with the movie studios over Halo (and The Hobbit too) will only ruin the movie. Take it away from him or force him to do it himself.
    • chocobomog, on 10/11/2007, -21/+5Halo could be a fun movie, but the movie screenplay must be expanded from the game. After the first few missions the game is very repetitive. There are only so many ways you can write "MC walks around corner, fights covenant/flood/sentinels and moves to next identical room where he fights..." before it gets really boring.

      The Halo books were actually entertaining but the weakest one by far was the one based directly on the first game. In order to add variety, the author had to create entire storylines involving other humans and covenant character not shown in the game (or shown for 30 seconds). And considering how the first game ends [spoiler- everyone but Master Chief dies], these extra storylines' conclusions are disappointing. Even with the extra storylines, everything after the introduction of the Flood became boring and monotonous (like the game) because, again, there is only so many ways you can describe fighting the same enemies in slightly different locales.

      Add to this the difficulty of having a main character who's face is never seen and is unable to express emotions (V for Vendetta succeeded only because it had rich supporting characters and a much deeper storyline to compensate for the antihero's lack of emotions) and writing a movie based on the first game alone would be a nightmare. The origin story of the Spartans would be awesome and it could lead into a condensed Halo story for the second half of the movie, but the first game by itself would make a terrible movie.

      Let's face it, the reason Halo is popular is because of its gameplay and multiplayer (and the fact it was the only good Xbox game for the first year or two), two aspects which can't be recreated in a movie. The game's story isn't anything new (it borrows heavily from Aliens and Starship Troopers) and by itself wouldn't translate into a movie very well. There are many other games that have richer characters, better storylines, and are overall more cinematic than Halo. That being said, if a movie is made, I will still see it the opening weekend, much like I did with Super Mario Bros, Double Dragon, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tomb Raider, Doom, etc. And if it sucks, I won't watch it again.
    • Holosoth, on 10/11/2007, -22/+6Against our best wishes, Halo will become a movie just like Doom became a movie. I'll get the towel.
    • guitarh3ro, on 10/11/2007, -10/+43You people bashing the movie are idiots. Halo could be amazing if they did a good job, and especially if they could pull it off with the story line and the types of sequences that were pulled off in Haloid.

      I do agree that Neill is a noob when it comes to directing, but as long as Peter Jackson is producing it, I'm sure he'll be able to easily persuade Neill into making the best choices. I do think Peter Jackson directing the Halo movie would be far better, but we should probably trust Peter Jackson's judgment and have at least a little faith in Neill.

      Also, on a side note, Neill has done great jobs for special effects for Smallville and Stargate-SG1.

      Have faith, Halo fans.
    • Nazuel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+54Breathe not Breath! Dammit. Sorry, one of my pet peeves.
    • SultanTravi, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4@chocobomog
      The weakest books were the ones powered by Eric Nylund's ideas about how Spartans should act. Dietz wrote a better book because Master Chief was not some SWAT guy trying to be a ninja and avoid getting shot. The games are about doing and receiving lots of damage, and using your shields for protection. I feel that if they stick to that idea, it turns out better because this is not Splinter Cell. Plus, the storyline got destroyed by Nylund's books. There's a point where the books make it so that Spartan 117 is a useless character.
      ^ Geez that's a nerdy paragraph.

      Also, realize that all directors start somewhere. The best directors started by directing small films. They want a director who they can see has potential and who is a fan of the Halo universe. I think Peter Jackson is a good person to judge who will be a good director when put on a big project.
    • DeathBorn, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4In related news, Microsoft announces that the Halo movie will be exclusive to HD-DVD disc and will only be sold in a "deluxe edition" for $50.
    • Dokument, on 10/11/2007, -8/+0Somebody Call 911 and get an AED!
    • rheaume, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4chocobomog

      You know, they said the same crap about Quentin and Rodrigez...

      Neil's shorts are better than most movies out there, its not just the effects, its his choice of shots and most of time, the *subtle* use of CG.
    • chocobomog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4@sultantravi
      "The games are about doing and receiving lots of damage, and using your shields for protection"

      This is where I disagree. Master Chief is a soldier and the best of the best. But he is still a (augmented) human, flawed and vulnerable. Playing him as an invincible damage-sponge character takes away from the suspense and danger. Every covenant/flood has the power to kill Master Chief even with his shield and it is up to his training to keep him alive. He does do espionage missions, he is not supposed to go in guns a-blazing because he can be killed much like his other (dead) Spartan brothers. Try playing the games on legendary and you will understand. And while an argument could be made the John 117 is the best Spartan, the other Spartans are just as powerful and yet flawed. They can be killed and their shields only leveling the playing field against the covenant, not make them gods.
    • chocobomog, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1@rheaume
      Quentin and Rodriguez took 10 years before they directed movies with budgets over $30 million. They honed their craft on smaller independent films known for their engaging stories and characters, not their special effects. Neill does not have this experience. He hasn't even made one full length-film, let alone a $200 million cg-heavy blockbuster. He needs time to grow as a director and learn the industry before doing this. No one has entered the industry with a movie as large (or even 1/4 the budget) as Halo and succeeded. Heck, even experienced directors have trouble making big budget movies work (see Spider-man 3, The Island, etc).

      I don't see how you can defend Neill as the director of this film. When you were making your "dream list" of Halo directors, was he on there? Did you know he existed? This isn't a small independent film you can give to test directors. This is a huge movie with lots of expectations which requires someone with expertise to helm. Neill has done a few visual effects and some short films, that does not make him a good candidate for this movie. There are hundreds of people more qualified for directing Halo but no one will touch it due to the ludicrous demands from Microsoft and Jackson.
    • loves2spooge, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@guitarh3ro

      the point is they're most likely NOT to do a good job, as they'll just throw money at it hoping that'll be enough...

      ...like most game to movie features.
    • Jinno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3First off I'll complain at the guy claiming that Nylund ruined the story. No he did NOT. The Halo story is one about survival, and being careless as many are in the game is not the way to go. It makes much more sense, if not only for the fact that they're y'know, Spartans, is to have them focused on teamwork and caution. I assure you that no actual military ops are planned as they are in the game, where you're dropped in with little to no intel on the situation, no intel on enemy movements, and no intel on strongholds. The game is fun, but if you take the story to be about the Master Chief and his fellow Spartans being bullet sponges you're mistaken.

      Now then, to the important stuff. I am in agreement, Neil Blomkamp is very underqualified experience wise for this movie. But anyone who says that Peter Jackson intends to shirk work just because he's not directing is a fool. He's participating plenty with all aspects of the Haloverse, and he's directing a new direction for Halo Games. Don't spread rumors about Jackson.

      So why am I not obtuse and against Blomkamp's directing it? Because you have to get a start somewhere, and if the man is as passionate about Halo as Jackson will defend, I think it better for him to get his start in that field. With Bungie's watchful eye, Jackson's mind for movies, and the fresh directions that Blomkamp will take the movie, I feel no reason to suspect anything less than a hit.
    • slicedoranges, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I swear, there is not another person in the world who can spell "breathe."
    • TheCash, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Just because the guy is great at special effects does translate into a guy being a good director. In order to turn the Halo universe into an entertaining movie for more then just the purist fanboy crowd, it is going to take someone of Jackson's skill and experience, not some almost fresh-off-the-boat noob. I watched his short film, and I'm sorry, it just looked like a poorly produced trailer for a film I might netflix or watch on cable at 2am and nothing else is on besides food dehydrator infomercials.

      If they can't get someone who can do the franchise justice, I'd rather it not be made at all. I'm pretty sure the world could have gone along just fine without 'BloodRayne,' and 'House of the Dead,' in cinematic form. Some people waited how many years for LotR to be turned into a movie (ok, 3 movies) and I doubt any one of them would complain about the wait. That's how I feel about a Halo movie. Yeah I'd love to see it done too, but not if it's going to be 2009's 'Super Mario Brothers.'
    • HBNDonut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You guys need to stop worrying about Neill. If you have seen any of his previous work then you will know he is going to give us the grimey dark side of Halo. Bungie wont allow anyone to mess up the Halo movie either. The movie will be awesome!
  • ptacnik, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6a. no
    b. NO!
    c. no
  • Turambar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+35I'm not sure if it'll breath life into it.

    it might breathe life into it though.
    if they make it properly epic and badass, instead of doing something stupid, like let uwe boll touch it.
  • oldtimegamer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Well since Uwe Boll isn't going to be making the film. I would say that chances are pretty good.
  • sctechguy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Breath: what you take when you draw air into your lungs.
    Breathe: the action of inhaling and exhaling air into and out of your lungs, giving you life.
  • Krekko, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2If you read the books, you will find something there. I mean Someone above said it will be another Doom, but the thing is the Halo series has so much more behind it, has so much more substance then Doom, and by far would succeed what ever Doom could imagine.

    Personally I would LOVE if Legendary Studios would pick it up like they are with the World of Warcraft movie
  • guitarh3ro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I'm pretty sure no one can be worse than Uwe Boll.
  • readme, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Halo is never getting greenlit. Microsoft walked into Hollywood making crazy demands for cuts on the returns and guarantee of their investment and Hollywood showed them that game movies rarely make a dime and showed them the door.
    • cypher543, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"Hollywood showed them that game movies rarely make a dime"

      But that never stopped them from making those movies anyway.
  • xXShadowstormXx, on 10/11/2007, -9/+7Will Halo 3 *breath* life into Halo movie?
    • cypher543, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15We get it already! So he spelled a word wrong. Let it go.
  • Jeifurie, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5***** the RIAA
  • MissinSoCal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They Said lord of the rings would be impossible to make into a movie, and Peter Jackson did it. While I know he's not the director if he believes in it than I'm convinced. May this finally be the movie I can slap in the face of all those who keep saying all video game spin-off movies suck. Come on didn't you people see Mila Jovovich. I mean Resident Evil.
  • Briandt75, on 10/11/2007, -9/+1I'm trying really hard to imagine why anyone would want to see this film. It's one of the (if not THE) most obviously purely financial choices of a film that's ever been in the revolving production door. The conundrum to me is... why would jackson WANT to make this film... Seems to me like it would be waayyy more effort than financial reward with absolutely no artistic reward. It's based on a very basic video game with a pretty thin premise as is. Basically, I can't see any chicks wanting to see it. that's half the population right there. Then older people, they're out too. Okay so who's left to buy tickets and why would any of the Producers or people involved want to back a movie like this that really only has a core audience of gamers. It's a lose, lose situation making this movie for both artists and money men.
    • joaob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The game has a massive story behind it. You've obviously never played it and have no clue about the "Halo Universe" (however dorky that sounds) so why do you even bother coming into this story making comments as if you do know.

      Also Peter "*****" Jackson is the producer that is backing this film, do not ask Peter "*****" Jackson why.
    • x0victorea0x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1uh. yea sure there won't be any girls watching the movie
      i am a girl.
      just so you know i love halo
      best games EVER
      and watching the freaking movie

      i agree with joaob

      and second halo book by whoever it is. well let's just say the second book sucked
      fall of reach was way better
      gah i still have to read the other two books
  • Wizer04, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Peter Jackson is a fat hairy bollox .
  • D3koy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6Breathe
  • Patogrande, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Geez, you'd think that Jackson as a producer would inspire confidence...
  • acebrickman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Hmmmmmmm-

    I'm sure I would have dugg this article had the author taken a BREATH before posting to his blog and subsequently here on digg.
    However, this is not the case, and I actually selected this article first out of my feed just to see how many times OP had been blasted for his error.
    Just because Word says it's [spelled] correctly doesn't always mean it's [used] correctly.

  • rheaume, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Love neil's work and to see hsi dream crushed like that was.. lame

    But I guess in a world where 90% of movies SUCK it would make sense...
  • MrFatalistic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2perhaps someone can enlighten me, with all the movies being made today from IP that is relatively unknown to the general public (Hellboy, Ant Man, and even to lesser extents, Speed Racer) how is it that they haven't figured out that a Halo movie is golden? Sure you need a very nice CG budget, and anything less than MC vs Covenant + Flood would be another FF:TSW but even every jock knows Halo by now.

    This is just stupid.
  • Nati2atl06, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@ chocobomog

    How on hell one minute you say you read the books, then the next you say "The game's story isn't anything new (it borrows heavily from Aliens and Starship Troopers)"....SHUT THE HELL UP! Anyone who read the books know damn well that Halo story involves nothing similar to Aliens or StarshipTroopers. Halo had deep ass story that has kept us guessing till the end. The Halo game story mode is very dumbed down. If the game some how included the story for the novels, there wouldn't be one FPS out that Halo couldn't ***** on. I still like the story for Halo on the video game but it could have been so much more.
    • chocobomog, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1You missed my point. I agree with you on the books. The books were great, they fleshed out the story that was barely hinted at in the first game. The original Halo game's story is nothing new and to the movie going audience won't look any different than most sci-fi war movies. If they added the story for the books to the movie, it might have a chance, but if they only use the game's story it will be monotonous, repetitive, and nothing new.

      And the books aren't the best either. Compared to the thousands of sci-fi books before them, they are average and are no where near the level of Clarke, Dick, Wells, etc. They are "popcorn books": fun, light hearted, entertaining, but not though provoking, and seldom have an original idea in them.
  • thedarkrabbit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Normally, I think: Halo movie? KICK ASS!

    But then I think: They'll probably put The Rock or some other bad actor as the Chief... and that makes me sad.

    Halo movie in CG: yes
    Halo movie with bad actors: NO
  • ShuttleDisaster, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Will SecretJolly ever learn to use the English language correctly?
  • Warptera, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4"Breath" does not equal "breathe."
  • laughatyou, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0i would not like like to see this movie made for one reason game to movie idea usally suck and man would it might ruin halo for me if it sucked
  • orangester, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Let's just hope it's not another "Doom."
  • HanSolo69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1to be as successful as the game franchise the movie will have to be simple enough to understand that a group of drunken frat boys could completely grasp it. so if they can do that, they will hit their target audience and it will be a huge success.
  • CanIGetAWitness, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Well break out the paddles and start the CPR! I want the movie, I want it done well and I would like it to start when John (Master Chief) was just 6 years old.

    Digg me up if you know what I'm talking about.
  • Nati2atl06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0chocobomog

    With that being said. I agree.

    Now the whole "book being good" is a different argument. Compared to others, such as the ones you named, I agree but since we are talking about a book based off a game and not vice verse...Its a damn good book...well...except for "The Flood". It was the same as the game with lil insight added to it
  • Fox318, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2A Halo movie would be AWESOME!!!! All it needs to be is an *cue Don LaFontain* ACTION PACKED MOVIE with SOMEBADASS as MASTER CHIEF alongside SOME SEXY WOMAN as Cortana.

    But Jackson and Weta need to finish the Evangelion Live Action movie first.
  • HouseofEl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think the studios that backed out are fearful that Halo 2 was sort of a fluke in the industry just because of the sheer hype. Therefore they will wait to see how Halo 3 does in terms of sales. Besides it took Jackson years to get someone to back the lord of the rings. I don't see this as any different. It's untested grounds in terms of money. Sure there have been video game movies, but nothing on the true blockbuster scale. As long as Halo 3 makes a bundle, the film should get more interest. The concern is a valid one considering the money that is involved. You can easily say that Jackson has the golden touch, but that really isn't a given. Making the movie identical to the game isn't going to make it a success. They have to show that they can successfully create a story that will satisfy the fans, but also bring in the general public. I have no doubt that Jackson and Blomkamp can pull it off. However, it's still not an easy sell even with the popularity of the game.
  • ismokecake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1sony should pick up the halo movie then release it on blue ray movie and have a game based on the movie exclusive for the ps3
  • ChillyEli, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Doesn't Microsoft have billions anyways?

    So they put down $300 Million into making this movie. They make it back in just in the theaters alone.

    Then come the movie promotions plus the people who are sitting there going "Wow....that wasn't a bad movie......It's based off of a video game?" (all 2 of you) video game promotion.

    Then afterwards the DVDs with the special "behind the scenes of the video games" that have already been produced and placed online (though people like me have missed and would rather have on DVD anyways). Next thing you know you have $500 Million or more sitting in your pocket.

    Microsoft. As one of the biggest money makers in the world, take on this project. 100% return on investment.

    Hell give me a link to the pre-order and I will pre-order the DVD JUST to see this movie made and made right (Peter Jackson can do this ***** without any sweat).
    • ChillyEli, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm too late to edit my own comment. But doesn't Bill Gates have that as pocket change? Hell Bill. Take a little money out of what you will donate to charity this year, put out a movie, reap the awards, and then place the money you spent on the movie AND the profit you will make from it into charities. BAM!!. It would almost be like you ONLY want to give to the world.

      I can see the headlines now. "Bill Gates Profits From Halo Film. Donates All To Charity".

      Windows what?
    • fuzzynyanko, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That doesn't sound too off. Square made its own movie studio. Why can't Microsoft?
    • qwerty1024, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And nearly went bankrupt in the process
  • Scheissen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I want there to be a Halo movie because America has never had a successful CG movie aimed at adults. I am tired of seeing 4 animations a year still at the level of amusing little kids.

    I want there to be a Halo movie because it will have action, guns, and explosions and John is just a cool character inside his spartan suit to not like him. The Halo 3 trailer airing between a football game looked good and it should at least look as good as that (for the love of god, do not make it shiny like what Halo2 and Halo3). The story should stay focused on pre the first game.
  • tektalk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yes! It will breathe life into the movie!
  • ghazzter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0I want hold my breath about this movie being any good and the ***** that Microsoft says that it will be exclusive on HD-DVD is pretty pathetic if you ask me. The movie isn't even made and their already trying to shove their crap down our throats, ***** off
    • HBNDonut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes! Because Blu Ray is so much better! I can totally tell the difference! Id rather pay twice the HDDVD price for Blu Ray because it really is THAT much better than HD! /sarcasm
    • Ctrice, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0$10 says you've never even seen a Blu-ray movie running on a decent set.
  • DNABeast, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well, I put money against Halo's success on the Hollywood Stock exchange and made a pretty penny over the last few months.

    Although this latest news has paniced me and I've covered it.
  • Darksci, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I just hope Hollywood doesn't screw up the film like they did with Doom.
    Doom had the potential to be so much more given the novels written.
    And what did Hollywood do? Instead of making the demons from hell like they were meant to be... they did a Resident Evil and made it a 'virus'.

    For the love of God, what goes on in the minds of these Producers I'll never know...

    But seeing as its Peter Jackson, I have more faith.
  • netplaya, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If Microsoft can't get enough interest for a theatre release movie, then maybe they could launch their own HD-DVD movie; or even an Xbox Live release.
  • Topher06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Come on, all video game movies suck, period. After King Kong, its dubious even Peter Jackson will break that trend. You can't make a movie on razor thin plots, which is all that video games have. Games have just enough plot to tie together hours of gameplay, the purpose of game is for interactivity, not to sit back and watch a good story.

    To make a good video game movie Hollywood has to learn NOT to copy the typical game plot lines almost verbatim, but only use the game as inspiration for an actual original plot involving the same characters and context. However most Hollywood execs are too concerned about changing the movie to a point where the fans of the games won't like it. I would much rather see Hollywood appeal to the much larger non-gaming audience rather then the small niche market audience that has ADD and low standards. You see, Hollywood would prefer to make a movie knowing they have millions of automatic fans (those that have played the game), rather then release a movie on chance and hope they can gain a much larger fan base from those that never played or even heard of the game.

    In any case, is Hollywood so hard up on original content they even have to make a Halo movie? Why not make a futuristic soldier movie that's not based on a video game, at least lend some credibility to the film making process. I think most people will say "A movie based on a video game, pass" whereas if it was a movie not based on a video game they might actually give it a chance.
  • Wraith99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I'd pay $10 to see a Halo movie!!
  • OwdenBowden, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Any Halo move should not reveal the Master Chiefs face what so ever! I would do a star wars Vader thing. Other than this there is no need for a Halo Movie.
  • Ctrice, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Seems that the Halo fanboys far outweigh the movie buffs here on digg. What a surprise.
  • Gegius, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Peter Jackson? Bah! Call Uwe Boll. He'll do it for cheap. =)
  • razorsharp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I think it's funny that people actually respect Peter Jackson. I don't think he was in any way responsible for the quality of the Lord of the Rings. He was piggybacking off of a giant budget, great actors, and a classic story. He repeated this formula with King Kong and ironically made the worst Kong movie to date. When Peter Jackson makes a quality film on a budget without actors so talented they barely need direction and an original script, then I'll have respect for him. Seeing as how he's too busy playing the Halo 3 beta, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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