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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+262Wow, no DVD playback, what hardship. I'll have to play my discs on the 5 other DVD playback capable devices I own. Nintendo did the right thing in dropping DVD support to reduce cost. Who hasn't got a DVD player nowadays?
- EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -5/+117About $20 per unit for the DVD license.
- ScionX, on 10/12/2007, -15/+107^^^ wtf?
- artemus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+74"The interviewer is a complete douche bag. He is really rude to her at some points. Then again he looks like he is so important with his ***** quickcam camera".
That interview was done by Robert Summa, the same guy who got fired for printing misleading information on Joystiq. - stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -12/+65Who actually uses their console for dvd playback anyway?
- sterling1989, on 10/12/2007, -13/+61The interviewer is a complete douche bag. He is really rude to her at some points. Then again he looks like he is so important with his ***** quickcam camera.
- Flynnz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45"About $20 per unit for the DVD license."
just curious...where did you get that figure from? cause I have seen new DVD players for as little as $30 at the store. Which would kill any chance of a profit on that item, after parts, markup etc. So doesnt seem to add up to me. Not calling you a liar, just trying to understand.
With that said....do people REALLY need yet another device to playback DVD's? I mean hell just counting my current setup I have 6 devices that playback dvd's. So I really dont see the big deal on this. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36I know, Wii sucks! Now I'm going to spend even more money on a DVD player!
Oh wait, I already have 10. - LightsOut06, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36it has Wii in the title therefore it had to be dugg.
- Warchiefgrim, on 10/12/2007, -8/+33No, the Wii DOES have a region lock. Nintendo of Europe has already said that NOA (Kapplan) was wrong. This is old.
- spamzor, on 10/12/2007, -37/+58Perrin Kaplan is hot :-P wooo
- saftaplan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Now I know why there are so many digg stories about changing the Caps Lock key functionality.
- nymphetamine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Is_NOT_region_free
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20yes, for you ill informed digg ilk, manufacturers do have to pay the royalties on the dvd patent for each chip used.
The reason why we are seeing el cheepo dvd drives in your bargin store is usually because their imported from bali/ china where the manufacturers reveresed engineered the chip, made their own and didnt pay royalties.
Its because of that reason (among others) that dvd players came down in price. - abdulla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19It'd be good if we had the option of paying and getting DVD software, which seems like it could be within the realm of possibility.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I didn't know the mom from Malcom in the Middle worked with Nintendo...
- jragon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18The woman being interviewed seems pretty distracted.
- DoctorNo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16For DVD there is the 6C patent licensing pool, which takes 4% of the retail price of the DVD player, with a minimum fee of $8 (also take 2% of each DVD movie/game sold). Fees vary amoung manufacters so its not a exact figure. The main patent holder is Toshiba so they get the bulk of the money.
http://www.dvd6cla.com/index.html
The 6C patent licensing is the reason there is the big fight with HD-DVD since HD-DVD players and content will need to pay 6C patent royalties as well as new HD-DVD related patents, most of it going to Toshiba. This was the main reason for the split between Blu-ray & HD-DVD, with even one of the 6C companies (*****) supporting the creation of a new format to avoid expensive royalites. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Krmby: So a third party selling their product is an example of Nintendo wanting extra money? If that was your point, it was a very poor example.
It isn't $20 for the DVD software, it is $20 for a license to use the DVD format, because it's patented. - guice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17No DVD playback. Does it matter? Who here actually makes it a point to watch their DVD movies on their gaming console?
I know I don't. I watch DVDs in my DVD player and play games on my console. Out of the 6 years I've had my Playstation2, I've watched DVDs in it only twice and that was only cause I was overseas with it and it was the only region One DVD player I had. Not once was it my DVD player while in the US. Same goes for my XBox. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Clueless? When you achieve half she has done you can speak. The interviewer was plain annoying.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18I'm prubably going to get dugg down for this buut... Havn't there already been about five of these stories on the front page? I mean, I don't like to shout dupe, but this is getting kinda ridiculous.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20Not rude, just totally non interested in the iview.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13LOL
- daroots, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19old news, noa reported that wii was region-lock
- OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I don't think he was rude, i just think he was a bad interviewer. He had no idea what to ask next when she was done talking, he didn't do anything but shoot questions at her, and he didn't move from one topic to the next. Instead it was all over the place.
I would say it was rude to be looking around and saying hello to people across the floor while she was being interviewed. - BTime, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21Some of us would have liked the DVD player feature
- There are times I'd rather watch a movie than play a game
- Reduce the amount of clutter; less cable madness please
- Perceived value; People are always going to try and get the best bang for their buck
The technology is already in the Wii, I just think Nintendo is being cheap and reminds me of why a number of people didn't buy the Gamecube on release. Yeah, because it didn't have the ability to play movies. Even if you never put a DVD in your PS2, at least you had the option to do so. I could go on about how PS3 + BlueRay + No Movie Support for big cash seems doomed to fail, but this is a Wii post.
What I find funny is that somebody will probably create a homebrew solution for DVD movie playback which basically frees Nintendo up from having to pay any money on licensing. Brilliant, or just plain cheapskates?
Already have too many DVD players in your home? Give some away to goodwill or the salvation army so that poor folks can pick one up for a nickel. - nextgengames, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Inaccurate this was filmed about 24 hours before NOE confirmed Wii was not region free.
- cricke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11you are right, but seriously, caps?
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11On the contrary, if I pay $$$ for something I expect it to do what it is supposed to do, and do it well. I'd much rather it did one thing well than a ton of things averagely.
- b04155, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17yeah, a game system that's.... a game system without extra *****
- saftaplan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Meh. I don't know many people who don't already own a DVD player. I know, it shouldn't cost too much to add one. But we don't need this. A game console is for gaming. If you want a system that can handle it all, go buy a PC.
- aristan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10The interviewer is rude as hell. The first thing he does is chastise her because her product isn't 'HD ready'.
"there were a lot of contradictions in a lot of the answers, a better interviewer would of been on the ball any chased up those comments" - miketruck3r
Exactly, he had canned questions and though he could have done follow up, at times he's cutting off interesting answers to go down his list. I'm seriously surprised he didn't say "Question number 12" at some point.
He also seemed to be annoyed/bothered by the fact that Nintendo stated they weren't losing money on their console.
I don't need DVD playback on my game console. After all, it's a _game_ console. My computer, my laptop, and my _dvd_ player all play DVDs. I don't need another DVD player. Thanks for not jacking the price up to 269 or 279 by adding an unneeded 'feature', Nintendo. - spamzor, on 10/12/2007, -12/+20I just watched the video, I don't understand how he was rude?
- Dosquatch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"...changing the Caps Lock key functionality."
I advocate wiring it to a Tazer in the driver's seat. - manicdvln, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Does Perrin Kaplan have an obsessive compulsive disorder? She keeps fiddling around.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8NoE reported that there was region lockout. NoA reported that there was no region lockout on first-party games, but that the option would be there for third-parties.
- surfit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9A lot of the cheap DVD players come from Chinese OEM manufacturers. When a company purchases these players in bulk to sell to a local audience under their own name, the dodgy ones forget about the license and trademark costs. Hence they sell them for such as low price.
- Schug, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I dunno about her being hot, but she's my favorite Nintendo representative. . . aside from when Miyamoto swings that sword. :P
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9So is it wiigion locked or not wiigion locked?
- greekgoat91, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10that's completely different. how the hell do you ship a console capable of HD without damn HDMI cables
- DanaG, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"For DVD there is the 6C patent licensing pool, which takes 4% of the retail price of the DVD player, with a minimum fee of $8. . ."
Which is why the XBox DVD remote costs $30 and there are no third-party knock-offs. The DVD license fee is part of the price.
Interesting factoid. The DVD CSS decryption code is actually in the IR dongle you plug into the XBox and is loaded from the dongle every time you turn your XBox on.
There's no reason Nintendo couldn't do something similar. Sell a USB dongle separately which contains the DVD CSS code with or without a Bluetooth DVD remote and the price would include the DVD mafia's licensing fee. - nickdr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7if you're suggesting that xbox 360 is making a profit, it's not. both xbox and 360 were sold for less than they cost to make. they hoped to make back money on game sales. nintendo is one of the only companies profiting from their console.
- navster15, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Any chick that can talk Nintendo like her is hot in my book!
- digitalsin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Is she a crack addict? She can't sit still for 2 minutes
- Leonaken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7He does sound very disappointed in Nintendo in his questions. It's not a matter of being rude or unfanboyish, it's just like he's complaining and Nintendo's mommy is saying "well, that's just how it is, sweety."
- dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Cmon, these days everyone has a DVD player.
- cannibaljp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6that interview was quite bad. the questions were cookie-cutter, and it seemed like she wanted to be anywhere other than in that chair...
- irieKEN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Her speech patterning annoys me too. At least it's easy to tell when she's BSing answers, and when she's reciting something she's heard before.
- HRF1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is what happens when you try to gather information from the internet. We've got bunch of amateurs tying to play journalists to promote their sites to make some easy $. Tech sites, including gaming, seem to be the worst offenders, especially with the next-gen consoles including the Wii. I'm fed up with reading ridiculous articles or blogs from sites like Joystick, Engadget and especially Kotaku.
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