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- FrankieB078, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38lol the Wii not working on Sony TV's is a bit humorous. If only I could get my PS3 to work on a Nintendo TV...oh wait...nevermind.
- saunderez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22My cheap ass 32" LCD does the same thing. Doesn't do it with anything else running through component and I've tested 360, original Xbox, PS2, a PVR...all good but the Wii.
- mooseblaster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23ANNOYINGLY, this is a fault with the televisions and not the Wii itself.
What happens is that when there is a whiteout or picture with a high propensity for white the television thinks it is not getting a signal and shuts off. The Wii Channel, Shop Channel and so forth all have a high propensity of white and your television is the one 'freaking out'.
Sometimes the problem can be solved by adjusting the contrast, brightness and gamma on the component settings (several LCD TVs have different settings for different types of input) and the problem *may* go away.
I find I also get problems when using component cables and watching episodes of Scrubs (which commonly use white-outs) and on the Wii itself. I switched TVs eventually (not to do with that situation but merely was getting a larger television), and the problem doesn't occur on that one.
Hope that helps. - roxya, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Well the PS3 CAN output 1080i, don't be so ridiculous. The problem is it doesn't upscale if your TV doesn't support 720p.
- r00ts, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"I hate sony as much as the next person,"
If you hated Sony as much as everyone else does you wouldn't question our relentless Sony-bashing. - evanflash, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11thanks for adding this. Nintendo really needs to fix this problem! I have a Bravia and I want to play ZELDA without these bizarre interruptions.
- WhereAmI, on 10/12/2007, -15/+23So let us get this: PS3 can't do 1080i, and everyone complains and moans and says PS3 sucks, but the Wii can't do 480p on an unknown amount of HDTVs and we are just hearing about it now?
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -16/+23Maybe because it's a rare problem? And the PS3 problem is much more severe, seeing as it doesn't have a hardware scaler. For all we know, this 480p problem might be easily solved with a patch. And if that doesn't work, then Nintendo will promptly replace all affected consoles.
Maybe the PS3 would get a break if idiots like you stopped bringing it up in unrelated articles. Might I ask what exactly this article has to do with the PS3? Exactly; nothing. Now this article has the potential into developing into a flame war about consoles just because WhereAmI feels his console of choice isn't getting enough recognition. Thanks, moron. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I had an unrelated hardware problem with the Wii and spent a long time on the phone with tech support. They mentioned they are aware of both problems and these video issues would be resolved in the next series of Wiis. They SPECIFICALLY wanted to know if my TV was one of the problem models mentioned here. My error was with the video processor overheating:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Overheating_Causing_Video_Errors_with_Pics
If your error is with the video processor, they will replace your Wii . . . if your error is with the component sync, you're SOL. - charlescheese, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this issue too. This is the first that I've heard that I'm not alone on this. Hopefully this isn't a hardware issue, and it turns out to be something that can be fixed with an update.
- thelulufinders, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well if you saw the web browser in action, I don't think there's any other way to describe it. It works..but It tries to change the resolution every time you try to go to a new page. Sometimes it's a garbled mess of diagonal lines and sometimes the screen is split in two, mirrored from the center. And Once in a while..it actually works.
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14I don't see how this can be described as "FREAK[ing] OUT". It would be more accurate, and less sensational, if you were to just say "doesn't work".
- BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@MouseCircus
"Maybe because it's a rare problem? And the PS3 problem is much more severe, seeing as it doesn't have a hardware scaler. For all we know, this 480p problem might be easily solved with a patch. And if that doesn't work, then Nintendo will promptly replace all affected consoles."
Or maybe its because Nintendo took forever to get the component cables out to enough people to have a decent amount of complaints. I agree though Nintendo has always been great at replacing broken stuff. Years ago I wore out my N64 controllers way to fast. Nintendo overnighted 2 controllers to me with no argument. - Dimensio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Grim...: If that's the case, it may be that they have they're contrast/brightness set over-high.
So the solution is TURN IT DOWN!"
That probably won't help, as adjusting the brightness and contrast settings on the television will not alter the properties of the video signal. - Tainek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Happens on my tv, it works fine for 20 mins, flickers for 5 seconds, blacks out, then comes back a second later, then its fine
very bizzare - BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't have that problem but it sure brings out the jaggies in wii sports. The composite cable is like free AA. I have an older 34" Sony XBR. I also have the Original 480p GC and component cables. It also looked like crap IMO.
- jedipimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3my samsung 101cm lcd goes a little crazy when i switch from any source over to the wii, black screen funny lines for 10 seconds then it goes ok.
- hamstereater, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Does this problem exist on these TVs using a Gamecube and its component cables?
- tbartolucci, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My RCA 52" widescreen works fine, but my Sharp 27U-810 gets all screwy with the same cables.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As soon as you plug it in your tv starts speaking in tongue and spinning around.
- UCFMark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@evanflash:
Sony should not have had to have Nintendo in mind while designing their TVs, nor vice-versa with the Wii. Component video and 480p are industry standards- meaning that they should guarantee interoperability of devices as long as the manufacturers conform to the standards. - onTheJDAR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This reminds me of a problem I have with my NEC HT1100 (HD projector) combined with my N64. If I play Mario Kart 64 on Rainbow Road and use the lightning bolt, my screen will go black for about three seconds. We call it the Rainbow Road glitch, and it does not appear under any other circumstances. Kinda weird
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mine freaks out when the screen gets almost completely white. It happens in Zelda when I get a new secret attack. I also sometimes happens if I went to the roof of the home building in Beyond Good and Evil on my PS2.
I think it's my component video switch causing it, but maybe I'm wrong. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I'm still amazed that people who bought the Wii think it can stack against the 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics."
Nobody thinks that. It most definitely can stack against the 360 and PS3 in terms of fun, though. Especially if you have some real-life, flesh and blood friends to play with. We wouldn't want fun to get in the way of your "serious" gaming--that would be a tragedy. - TechCF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does this happen both with the original cable and the third party. And does 50Hz / 60Hz matter?
- evanflash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm tired of this "don't buy Sony TVs" garbage. I guess it's rooted in some sort of playstation vs Wii thing, but the Sony Bravias are some of the best LCD tvs out there. This problem is a freak coincidence; a typical case of 2 pieces of hardware not interfacing correctly because neither manufacturer had the other in mind during the design of the product. We've seen it for years in PCs and now next gen consoles and HDTVs are bringing it to the world of console gaming. Hopefully this issue will be solved on Nintendo's end soon. (I say solved on Nintendo's end because they have the ability to do firmware updates, which is not possible for a television set). Anyway it's completely unreasonable to suggest that buying a different brand TV is the best solution to this issue.
- Ghost_MH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have that exact same problem with my 37" Viewsonic (N3751W). It worked the first time I connected the thing, but ever since then Normal squishes the images to 4:3 rather than 16:9. Luckily for me, the TV does remember the resolution and aspect ratios for each, individual input, but it still bothers me leaving the TV to stretch the squished 4:3 image.
Speaking of which...When is Nintendo going to fix the issues with the stretched VC games??? I don't like having to switch the aspect ratio when I boot up one of those games to get it looking normal again. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I have the same problem on a Phillips 60" something or other HDTV (bought it in 2003).
It's the console and the default resolution setting. I mean, it's not BROKEN, but it doesn't default to 480p if that cable is plugged in.. and it obviously knows because composite cables have the "480p" option greyed out, but the second you swap it w/ the component, it highlights.
My 360 works just fine simply because of the TV/HDTV slider on the output.
With my Wii, I had to plug the composite cables in, navigate to the screen resolution options and have someone hover the remote over 480p (which in composite, is greyed out). Plug the component cables in, the tv is scrambled because of no progressive scan signal. Have the 2nd person click the "A" button to select the 480p (which you should still be hovering over, but won't be able to see). Basically blind navigating to the '480p' option. Then it changes back to normal as the console swaps to the right signal. (Which is why I believe it's the console, not the TV)
However, some games override this setting! Rayman is one. I can't play Rayman at all in 480p. It loads up, but when you actually start the game, I believe something in the software swaps it back to 480i.. and have to swap back to the composites or I can't see crap. - f3l1x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey sony makes some nice ass TV's; they just over-engineered the hell out of the latest bravia. It assumes no signal when theres too much white on the screen. It's _too_ smart.
- blork1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have a 19" Samsung LCD, and all my Wii and GC games work fine with component, but for some reason certain VC games wont work; I get a green, flickery screen on Mario Bros. and Zelda (both for the NES, obviously). It's probably because I'm in the UK. Nintendo likes to screw us.
- seneyr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Samsung 21" LCD HDTV/Monitor. No problems with my Gamecube. Doubt the Wii will have problems when I get the cables. If this is a problem with a specific line of TVs, then it's not Nintendo's problem, more than likely it's a 480p problem. Anyone using a PS2 to test should be enabling progressive scan on the game they are using. Very few PS2 games support progressive scan, so just a warning on that.
- fr0z3nph03n1x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have a 26" Sony Bravia, and I run it at 480p w/ component cables. I have never had a problem period.
- All4not, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mine acts like it's changing resolutions when you start a game (in 480p only). When the Wii gives you the strap warning mine goes out and then comes back in, but it doesn't do it at the Wii menu or during gameplay. I'm not sure if it's normal, but it doesn't affect anything important.
- mooseblaster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Grim...: If that's the case, it may be that they have they're contrast/brightness set over-high.
So the solution is TURN IT DOWN!
It may be that it's a shut-off feature to prevent people burning-out their televisions. - seneyr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1480p or bust my friend. Nintendo has said they're not going higher than that right now.
- f3l1x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So much for standards... my samsung DLP works fine but my parents Sony Bravia has issues keeping the signal. I notice this issue with the bravia while switching resolutions with the ps2 as well. Also when the screen goes like 90% white the bravia flips out and assumes the signal is messed up.
- Sakumi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mine is working OK with non-official component cables on a SONY 32" CRT HD-TV.
Not sure if it's cable problem, console problem, or? - daridave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@ the idiot who is pissed we bash SONY:
Hey, we never said Nintendo was perfect, too. But look at your URL: it says digg.com/GAMING_news . As far as that "gaming" is concerned, Nintendo's doing it right, SONY isn't. Direct your hanger to the source, crybaby.
*quietly awaits a freakin VGA plug for the Wii to solve everyone's problems..* - dalesmatrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone know if they plan on releasing an update to allow 576p in the PAL regions? My TV won't do 480P, but I believe it does 576P
- saunderez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nope official component cables...you know the ones that cost friggin $50AU...
- mortaneous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I am also inclined to fault the TV instead of the Wii... assuming all Wii hardware outputs the same signal on the component cables for 480p, the fact that particular models of TVs do not work points to a fault in the TV's handling of the signal. Either that, or the majority of TVs are built with wide enough tolerances to accomodate any peculiarities of the Wii's 480p signal while those that strictly enforce specs/have tighter tolerances appear to fail.
- dyrmsz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Zero video display issues w/ Official Nintendo Component on a 32" Westinghouse LCD and a 51" Toshiba DLP w/ Zelda, Wii Sports, Trauma Center, Rayman, Gamecube discs, Shop Channel, or Web Browsing
...other than 480p is the second lowest display mode my TVs support, but hey that's the Wii - Boofster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No problems on my Panasonic plasma. Sony sucks.
- hellalazy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wierd i have no problems on my bravia xbr, it might be that im plugging in through a AV reciever
- layzie83, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm having this problem with my Sony KP-53HS10 which is about 8 years old now so I doubt it is some sort of Sony conspiracy. I am going to try the brightness/contrast settings since it only freaks out on the web browser, shop channel and sometimes when I pause a game I get a distortion across the top. Like others have mentioned if I switch to 480i the problem disappears.
- Thrash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have a 50 inch Panasonic plasma that has problems with the Wii's Component cables. Though I only see it when accessing the Store or trying to surf the internet. The bottom half the screen will go black and the other will jitter. Though all games seem to work fine. I switch to the standard cables if I want to buy a virtual console game, but otherwise use the component cables all the time.
- dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Funny bit of history. The NES color palette had a several (9) entries for black, one of which was dark enough (essentially an absence of video signal) to cause problems on some televisions, so game developers were advised to avoid it.
- BerenTW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1heh... Aus here too. The cables are a total rip.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What brand is your tv Saunderez? I just got a westinghouse 32"... I hope it's not a westinghouse.
- Opelious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've only had these problems when going through this cheap component switch box of mine. When plugged directly into the TV, everything is fine. Strange thing is, it only begins to lose signal on screens where there is a lot of white, and no movement, like the Wii Shop channel, or Mii Channel, and some intros to games like Elibits. It never effected gameplay, but its damn annoying whenever I want to go buy a new VC game.
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