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- wealer, on 07/31/2008, -11/+341Why couldn't they have given it a cool name?
- canewediggit, on 07/31/2008, -4/+164truth. i swear to god i've never seen a bunch of lazier mofos than the well-funded start-up. i'm still amazed at how so many companies can be so unprofitable but yet garner so much attention, press, and accolades. it's the epitome of the weak american economy- hundreds of paper millionaires that can't generate a cent in bottom line profits.
- wheresjim, on 08/02/2008, -5/+132Its pronounced "Fail".
- Chickenlip, on 07/31/2008, -17/+131Those of you whining about muffins strawberies, and a free work environment probbaly work in companies where you dont get those things.
It's all about creating a relaxed and comfortable work environment that keeps employees interested in sticking around to work more hours. The real costs that one should bitch about are multi-million dollar golden parachute contracts, and overpaid middle-management.
Strawberries and muffins are just that ... Strawberries and muffins. - kensavage, on 07/31/2008, -43/+149Just the name SUCKS for me. How the hell do you even pronounce it?
- Mithivh, on 07/31/2008, -4/+103They say it's pronounced "cool".
- deepbl, on 08/02/2008, -2/+74That's awesome, congratulations! You've really picked the perfect time, too, because you never know when that gay marriage ban is going back into effect.
- fquednau, on 07/31/2008, -4/+74The power of Google these days also comes from the absolute beef that their servers worldwide provide. I can't easily see how a startup wants to compete. Heck, Microsoft may have the stamina to put similar amounts of beef behind their search stuff, and still they don't manage to catch up. Unless you don't invent a search engine that totally digs what we are looking for even if we aren't sure how to express it in words, I think you'll have pretty tough times getting a significant user base.
- AmyVernon, on 07/31/2008, -5/+70it's harder than ever to start a new search engine. there are so many out there, you have to do something really really different. and something that works well...
- dmobley, on 08/02/2008, -7/+67Yes, coming from a British newspaper, I'm sure we should all love the admonishment they provide telling Americans how they should work their asses off and OH NO FREE SNACKS.
There's a huge problem in the US at the moment of people who have to endure a crappy job just because they need a job and they let employers piss all over them in the name of corporate bottom lines and productivity After all, we're in a bad economy, you wouldn't want to hunt for a job in all this right?
Silicon Valley and the Bay Area in general have made a very solid effort at changing the work culture to such that you should enjoy coming to work. You're going to feel happy and at least slightly more productive if you don't have to rush to work, and when you get to work you can have some breakfast and you don't have to stop by McDonalds or Starbucks on your way in, because all that is going to be around for you. Catered lunches every day, how much of a serious expense is that? Considering salaries in these jobs easily exceeds 100k/year anyway, 5 meals a week at 50 weeks a year, even if you spend a whopping $15/person only comes out to less than $4k per person per year. Can a basket of muffins and drinks and other sorts of "hey, don't make a trip to the store down the street to buy something, just go get it from the fridge and get back to work" amenities sure don't add up to a whole lot of money, especially on a per-person basis in a high salary industry. If this is the cited reason for a lack of quality for a search engine, it's a pretty poorly researched one.
$33 million goes primarily towards rent ($$$$$$$ in the Bay), power (again, $$$$$$) and probably a lot of expensive infrastructure. (servers, rackspace, bandwdith, etc).
It sure isn't being wasted on muffins, and it's a fairly sad point in the article that they're calling that out as a negative for a job, rather than examining their CEO salary which is likely excessive, or the fact that they're probably not as good as google since their team is pretty much all ex-google or not good enough to work for google employees and such.
But no, a few thousand dollars worth of muffins are totally the reason the website isn't instantly better than Google. Glad we could be kept up to speed on proper British website technology. - ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -5/+65No need to rate a company on quarterly results, not even weekly performances. In the 21st century we rate based on days old data. Then again, spending money on bowls of strawberries and muffins is usually a mistake.
- AlexandraF, on 08/01/2008, -1/+59They should have called it Kewl.
- captmorgan555, on 08/01/2008, -0/+49My major problem with Cuil is the damned columns. I'm sorry but i cant even give the site a chance because it doesn't give you the option to change the layout. 2 or 3 columns... really? that's it?
It makes scanning search results a tedious task. - captmorgan555, on 08/01/2008, -11/+59rtfa
- deepbl, on 08/02/2008, -17/+62it's pronounced "read the ***** article, you douche nozzle"
- senae, on 08/02/2008, -9/+51Hey, if you're me (which I am) it's pronounced coil.
For some reason. - MtheoryX, on 08/02/2008, -1/+39A digger getting married?
It's like someone just divided by zero. - inactive, on 08/02/2008, -4/+38Honestly, how did anyone who invested this tripe believe that
1. They could beat GOOGLE
and
2. Not be the same, exact thing that all .com bubble bursters were. Arrogant, fraudulent, and having no plan but sounding good an being too good for their employees http://valleywag.com/5031325/tech-insiders-learn-t ... And
3. Thinking they had a good name. Honestly, CUIL? I pronounce that as Coule, not COOL. Basic business research would have found this as a ***** way to name a venture. http://www.pandecta.com/bnames.html
Sorry, but Cuil is so 1999 with highly obscure "web 2.0" language and lacking business plans. I searched for Cuil on their own site, . It couldn't find its own ass. Couple that with a totally failed launch http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/andcuil-is-do ... how can you call this anything but a typical business failure. - Hax0rJimDuggan, on 08/02/2008, -24/+57I'M GETTING MARRIED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!
- lithera, on 08/02/2008, -2/+33It *is* bad, you hardly get any relevant links after a search. Their algorithm sucks donkeyballs. The layout is horrible (at least to me)
It's all fine and dandy to be innovative, in fact that's a very good thing of course. But at least be humble enough to admit your code is in beta stage and you need people to testdrive it.
Going live with such a horrible half done product *and* claiming to be the next google killer is kinda like digging your own grave. - granolajoe, on 07/31/2008, -10/+38I'm all about relaxed work environments, but you're missing the point. They've screwed around too much and blown a lot of money trying to please their employees. They've done it to the degree that they've grown spoiled and careless.
- Archaic1, on 08/02/2008, -1/+29That's what they say, but they won't think it's such a great name when nobody knows better than to pronounce it "coo-ill" though
- unclemeat, on 08/02/2008, -1/+29Careful there, we don't want anyone summoning Cthulhu.
- adrames, on 07/31/2008, -7/+34It's a shame to see startup money wasted that way with all those unneeded amenities. That money will run out sooner or later when investors see the search engine isn't nearly a "Google-killer."
- lesleye, on 07/31/2008, -6/+33cuil isn't.
- Xarddrax, on 08/02/2008, -0/+27Here are some other reasons it sucks:
- Putting a phrase in quotes doesn't search for the exact grouping of words. It will give you hits anywhere the words are all present.
- No ability to viewed cached data. If the website changed or no longer exists, you have to go to "waybackmachine"
- In preferences you can only change 2 options. Neither of which are those thumbnails.
- Image search?? Not there
- News search?? Nope
- Shopping?? Nadda - inactive, on 08/02/2008, -2/+29Too many syllables, man. They need to rethink that.
- KMye, on 08/02/2008, -0/+24Please, someone - anyone - make better use of it than this:
http://www.kewl.com - nakp88d, on 08/02/2008, -7/+31Qweel?
- DraxusD, on 08/02/2008, -1/+25I initially pronounced it "coowheel" but apparently it's "Cool". Lame
- granolajoe, on 07/31/2008, -2/+25Dammit. I just realized I chose the wrong Industry News. It was supposed to go in Technology.
- belumaves, on 07/31/2008, -4/+27well they said they were the google killer and the performance so far is woefully underwhelming.
- Rahodeb, on 08/02/2008, -2/+25I think you're missing the point. Strawberries and Muffins didn't waste the startup money. Not providing motivation and leadership to the employee's did.
I guarantee that for a fraction of one of those employee's salaries, you could provide strawberries and muffins to everyone. If, on the other hand, you aren't holding them accountable, or taking it for granted that you are just going to come on the scene and destroy Google, then that is where your millions are wasted. - jwolcott, on 08/02/2008, -0/+23Quill?
- snowblindnz, on 08/02/2008, -1/+23Tried searching (without quotes) "Acer P241W" earlier today (its the model monitor Im using).
Couldnt find any results. . wtf.. - AVigorVermin, on 08/02/2008, -2/+23oh come on digg him up it's a digger. Getting married. Think about it. Congratulations
- dmobley, on 08/02/2008, -3/+23No, it's usually not. The productivity benefits greatly outweigh the very very tiny expense per-person of having things like that handy.
There's a lot of science behind the idea of taking regular breaks and keeping your mind fresh. If people can get up and walk around and grab a snack while staying on campus to do it, you'll get them back to their desk quicker than if they were going to take a quick run to wherever to grab a (likely unhealthy) snack and beverage of some sort. Even worse is a policy that keeps them on-campus the entire time they're at work with no ability to leave... which ultimately leaves a person feeling trapped at their job and very unproductive. You know the kinds of places with a couple of vending machines that have absolutely nothing decent in them but you have a need to have something to break up the tedium of the day... so you pay out of your own pocket for 25 cents worth of chips (marked up to 65 cents of course) and a 25 cent soda (at least 50 cents, with some places being total jackasses at 55 cents HOPE YOU PACKED A NICKEL because the machine only does exact change!) and you feel even worse because you're hanging out at your job that you can't even leave for 10 minutes eating crappy chips out of a small plastic bag and a crappy sugar filled soda.
There's a tremendous value in providing refreshments for your employees. Be scared of companies that don't, because there's a good chance it's just a churn and burn operation that doesn't want long-term healthy and happy employees. It easily pays for itself in tons of ways. - colonelbuckshot, on 08/02/2008, -0/+20That article is full of *****. A company doesn't suck because they spend a few hundred extra dollars per month providing their employees with good working conditions. A company sucks if its management, business concept and implementation is not good enough. If you want to hire and retain the best people, you need to keep them happy.
- merripen, on 08/02/2008, -4/+23It's gae.
- DopplerDuck, on 08/02/2008, -0/+18I searched my name on Cuil and most of the pics were of "sexy girls washing car" and anorexic girls. But then again, since I am pretty thin, maybe Cuil has a sense of Humour!
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -1/+19Because Google got successful and then did this. Google started in some dude's garage.
- sk11, on 08/01/2008, -0/+18"Cuil is the helpless victim of outlandish Silicon Valley social norms that force net startups into wasting their $33 million in venture capital on strawberries and muffins while giving employees free rein to work as little as they like."
Sign me up! - inactive, on 08/02/2008, -4/+22Oh, god forbid a company should treat its employees like they actually matter. You don't blow through 33 mil on strawberries and muffins. You blow through it the same way every business does: by hiring moron executives and overpaying them.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -1/+17HAHA OMG this is very surreal to me. I've worked at different firms in Silicon Valley and I can tell you it's all true. On one company I worked with several years ago they even have a consultant for ***** satisfying the newer generation of workers where when they were kids were given medals and trophies for just participating. I still remember the BS that she said and also on how to tell them that they're not doing their job correctly in the nicest way possible,***** my ass.
I don't work for them anymore, they filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy three months after I left. - NathanielJ, on 08/02/2008, -0/+16Cuil seems to have ridiculous problems with words that require strange capitalization.
No results were found for: COBOL
No results were found for: Cobol
...and yet "Cobol Programming" gives you over 100k results. - aserer511, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15cuil: it's like google; without the search engine power, or contextual pictures, or easy to read layout, or features....
- Mystlyfe, on 08/02/2008, -0/+14Because google doesn't return porn results when you search for quantum physics with safe search on.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -7/+21What a really cuil article, I live in Alaska where it's always cuil, and I thought this article was pretty cuil. I know what cuil is and this website is ice cuil, word to your mother. In my opinion it's below zero on the cuilness scale.
...Cuil Moe Dee - renegadeafk, on 08/02/2008, -0/+13it's a lot more than " A lightweight Netscape" now.
- CDWMobile, on 08/02/2008, -1/+14Then how about we rate them on search results? Cause they'd still fail..
One big problem I see is they're not paying any attention to the sites they've already crawled. They're strictly looking for new content - therefore websites that were updated MONTHS ago, still haven't been updated on cuil. I can see the reasoning behind going for as much new content as possible at this point, but its just an example of the growing pays they're going to be going through for a while to come. -
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