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- Ratteler, on 08/06/2008, -10/+110That's funny. I thought Christian and Muslim fundamentalists were terrorist.
- WarpDigger1492, on 08/07/2008, -5/+75Last time I checked, the Bible had more violence that Mario, iirc.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -17/+84Dugg for terrorcat pic.
Religion needs to go. The craziness that comes with it far outweighs the good. - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -7/+47Why are religious kooks so insecure about the ability of parents to 'do right' with their kids/their faith and have to call for stuff to be banned? Powers of Jesus do what, now?
- soundsofreason, on 08/07/2008, -10/+49Well, Mr. Luce, how about ABC runs a sitcom about Christians killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night...
"But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
...or Take Two makes a video game on killing babies and rape according to god's will...
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
...oh, yeah. Now I remember why they haven't made those things yet, because they're all in the BIBLE and being taught to developing children that go to Sunday school. Not to mention all of the blind and ignorant god happy people making babies as soldiers for god.
"Oh, but a lot of the Old Testament is not looked at literally in most of today's religions" you say?...
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
Looks like you're goin' to hell if you don't start killing enemy babies and stoning non-virgins to death in the street. Oh, and don't forget you also have to kill any child who misbehaves (see 2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB). - XNihil0Zer0, on 08/07/2008, -3/+33Obviously technology is the work of Satan. Even fire. FIRE BAD!
- xang, on 08/07/2008, -1/+27Now, now, let's not co-opt Luce's nonsensical application of the word "terrorist." The obvious truth is that only terrorists are terrorists. Fundamentalists (total misnomer btw. pharisaical would be more accurate) may be overzealous and overbearing but when we grant such a wide scope to that term "terrorist" we're doing pretty much the same thing the Bush administration has done. Using it as propaganda to dismiss nearly anyone or anything we want.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+23"Yes, but that was violence for God. Holy violence is completely different."
- Nyctobello, on 08/07/2008, -10/+32As Richard Dawkins argues... the "good" doesn't come from religion; since we are now picking and choosing what is good and what is bad, it must have originated elsewhere. Thus you didn't need the 10 commandments to tell you don't bear false "witness"... but it made it perfectly okay to kill the person beside you for heresy.
- removesstains, on 08/07/2008, -7/+28I thought God said Thou Shall not Judge. Man this guy must have been sleeping that day during Church. Gotta love Hypocritical Christians, if they don't like it then ban it and say its the Devils work.
- Hetman, on 08/07/2008, -1/+22It also has a lot more incest in it than any other book I have read. But to be honest I do not think I have ever read another book that has had incest in it.
- ConfusedCartman, on 08/07/2008, -5/+24Name a war caused by video games. Just one war.
- Haoie, on 08/07/2008, -5/+23I just thought of an idea: Grand Theft Bible
- joebaloney, on 08/07/2008, -3/+21Christians have bombed (minus the suicide) plenty of innocent people and have declared plenty of holy wars including against middle eastern civilization at some point.
- Hrodrik, on 08/07/2008, -0/+18Why don't people just ignore these morons?
- bosssmiley, on 08/07/2008, -1/+17In other news Kotaku condemns the Christian Post as a den of terrorists.
- IPublius, on 08/07/2008, -0/+16Did he actually call for them to be banned? I haven't read his book, but the article linked to didn't say that he had. It seems more that he is advising parents to watch what comes in and keep things they deem harmful out. This would fall rather under the "if you don't like what is on TV then turn it off" style of prevention rather than a ban on the items themselves.
- ConfusedCartman, on 08/07/2008, -1/+15Did you just compare digital violence and actual violence as if they have the same repercussions? Are you that ignorant?
- loganhid, on 08/07/2008, -0/+14Yes they are as all you base are belong to us
- CrushThemTorg, on 08/07/2008, -0/+13Terrorcat has been forced into this by a lack of social mobility, a belief system that rewards martyrdom and that stupid fuzzy ball on a spring.
- Drahkar, on 08/07/2008, -2/+13Yea. This is a pretty uneducated statement seeing as Catholicism and Christianity have just as much blood on their hands as any other religion. They just more often win their slaughters and as such can say things like 'We were just hunting down the evil heretics.. Wait.. that sounds awfully familiar... Isn't that the same line the Suicide bombers are using right now? Sure sounds like it.
Religion is good for people, but when it becomes an entity of its own it leads to things like this. Its good to believe in something. But not at the cost of your own common sense or at the cost of someone else. - fr3ddie, on 08/07/2008, -11/+21Christianity is a cult.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -2/+12I actually am surprised that someone that dumb can form sentences.
- thefarouk, on 08/07/2008, -0/+9Most of us do. Unfortunately the politicians do listen, because the organized church (note I said organized) has lots of money to buy them.
oh wait, my eyes just crossed... - Gee1004, on 08/07/2008, -2/+11Stop blaming religion. It's the crazy christian fanatics that's the problem. I have orthodox jewish friends who play video games and some even work in the gaming industry and programming the computers on wall street. They all use cell phones, have pcs and Macs. I have christian friends who do progamming. None of these friends think this ***** and they all come orthodox families. They don't imagine the crap in the bible like these crazy people do.
- FrankTheTank17, on 08/07/2008, -0/+9Dugg for the Jihad Cat
- MaTT2011, on 08/07/2008, -2/+11lulz, sarcasm ftw!!
sarcasm, right? No?
dear....flyingspaghettimonster..... - Rikkochet, on 08/07/2008, -0/+9They do. Then the morons get frustrated and become guest columnists for the Christian Post, the last bastion of hard-hitting investigative journalism in the world.
- chaosblade77, on 08/07/2008, -6/+14I agree with the basis of the article - parents should monitor their kids and what they do, don't let them get addicted to things like TV and video games. Don't spoil them.
I don't necessarily like how it was written though. Even though there seems to be some understanding of the content is the problem, not the provider(game console, TV, iPod), he blames the general providers for the problems anyway. Nearly any content can be blocked or filtered now; all current generation game consoles have parental controls, and cable/satellite boxes have parental controls as well. Some DVD players might, I'm not really sure. - marcushe, on 08/07/2008, -0/+8Just stereotypical fundamentalist religious thinking - anything that takes focus away from their religion is seen as a "terrorist" to a persons will. It gets to the point where if religion isn't involved in everything you do, its a sin.
- Ratteler, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
That's not counting the Bush administration. - inyearstocome, on 08/07/2008, -0/+8i wouldnt call the police if i was able to drive all the expensive cars I wanted (GranTurismo)...
Video games are a form of entertainment, plain and simple-- and for many, entering a fantasy land.
The accurate (read: unbaised) studies all show that allowing men to take their aggression out in a video game is therapeutic, and lessens their tendency to be aggressive in the real world. But of course, the slander is what the media picks up on, since people want an excuse to take responsibility off of individuals. - FredFredrickson, on 08/07/2008, -4/+12Christians have proven to be responsible for the violent deaths of thousands of people. So far, video games haven't been responsible for any. Doesn't really take too much mental energy to figure out the problem here.
- jnovakii, on 08/07/2008, -6/+13Religion is such bs. It amazes me how many people believe in fairytales still. This article, though short, is still rediculous.
- inphu510n, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7Most parents are incapable of teaching their kids how to clean up after themselves. Throw in TV = babysitter and yes, the religious nuts on the right have a point about the horrid parenting in this country. Why do we have so many obese kids?
It's all choices.
That said, I've never heard of an instance of someone playing 72hrs of Starcraft and then wandering outside, starting a cult, writing a book with broad ranging commands for humanity, calling everyone else who doesn't believe the book by foul names and then torturing the non-believers to death because they don't agree with your Starcraftian points of view.
Lets not drag money into this discussion either. We all know how the Zerg LOVE to adorn their places of worship with the most precious metals and labor intensive craftsmanship. - Hetman, on 08/07/2008, -3/+10Technically Jesus came to change the old testemant. Unfortunatly christians seem to pick and chose whatever scriptures they can find to prove there point.
- Zildrohar, on 08/08/2008, -0/+7Ashkc88:
First, if by "banish" you mean "ban", as in the repeal of religious freedom, then you will be hard pressed to find any atheist nowadays advocating such. All the New Atheist movement is asking for is free competition in the marketplace of ideas. The rest will take care of itself.
Secondly, no one is going around shoving atheism down people's throats. Going around to people on their deathbeds telling them they've wasted their lives on delusion would be doing that. Invading people's privacy in their homes would be doing that. Trying to legislate mandatory atheism in public institutions would be doing that. No atheists are doing that. Plenty of religious people are.
What is occurring now with the New Atheist movement is a long overdue UNAPOLOGETIC frankness and sincerity about what we think, observe, and conclude about the world around us and about what religious honestly is. Dawkins and Co. are on the TV, on the web, on the radio, on the bookshelves, etc. If you don't like it, you can change the channel.
And finally, as for the "it's the person not the idea/object" argument, that is something that is not true out of hand and no claims is true out of hand. Surely no one claims that it's the person, not the crack rock. The fact is that video games have been PROVEN to have exactly the opposite effect on people of what is claimed by its ignorant nemeses; it is THAT which mostly signifies that if someone reacts violently to violence in video games, they are anomalous, since, again, the scientific evidence points strongly in the other direction. It is NOT some unproven axiom that something is always the person not the idea/object.
Religion does not make a distinction between itself and reality, like video games do. It is, according to itself and its adherents, reality itself. It is apparent that, regrettably, the software of the human mind lends itself easily to being programmed to embrace the nonsensical and the counter-logical when it comes to these questions about metaphysics and what lies beyond death and the existence of deities. Any sane person can and will play a video game and say "this is not real." Yet how many believe to be true what is obviously, from any objective fair perspective, obviously a collection of Bronze-age desert nomad myths (to take the most nefarious example, ie the Abrahamics). How many Muslims believe suicide bombing is okay? That female circumcision is okay? Honour killings? How many christians believe stem-cell research, which could save the lives of countless people, is murder? That gays should not be allowed full rights? That god wanted us to invade Iraq? The percentages of people who think these things within these groups is at least half, sometimes much more than half. That is not anamolous. 50% of christians in america are not schizophrenic. The software itself is dangerous. It lends itself very easily to delusion, and very easily to violent delusion.
The question of whether violent video games cause violence is actually a legitimate question to ask, like any scientific question. And it is answered when you look at the percentages of video game users that respond violently to the violence in games. They are few and far between. The same can not be said of religion. The percentages are very very high. There is something very wrong with this brand of software. - jamessavik, on 08/07/2008, -0/+7Suicide bomber kitty is going to get you!
- MaTT2011, on 08/07/2008, -1/+8"when men abandon reason, they find not only that their emotions cannot guide them, but that they can experience no emotions save one; terror" -Ayn Rand
You have clearly abandoned reason and logic, meaning that you have have abandoned, much like that of EVERY religion ever, the tools which help men make sense of and identify reality. As a result your comment, the article and the majority of religious dogma, does nothing but propagate terror.
What was the definition of terrorist again? Interesting stuff here...We should all think about how and why we use words like terrorism and in what context because clearly there is some inappropriate usage that only further spreads fear and paranoia; something we certainly do NOT need more of. - Orsenfelt, on 08/07/2008, -1/+7Let's banish that hateful filth known as "Wii Tennis" and act out gods will, Cleanse the planet and slaughter millions of middle eastern people!
I don't care what you think is right and wrong, If your 'organisation' is responsible for something like the crusades, You shouldn't have the right to an opinion. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -2/+8This is *****!
- Spoomeister, on 08/07/2008, -0/+5Just do what all the rest of your kind do and declare war on it. I'm sure the War on Video Games, War on Teen Magazines and War on Cell Phones will be just as successful as the War on Poverty, the War on Crime and the War on Drugs.
- Branchex, on 08/07/2008, -3/+8Why does every article that touches on religion turn into a bashing session on believers. Ya this guy is a nut but do really think what he is saying is inline with the teachings of Jesus or what most Christians think.
- djgreedo, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5Sarcasm is funny when you're wrong.
Ever heard of the Crusades? The Children's Crusade was an especially f**ked up one.
In a nutshell then Crusades (around 13 official ones I think) were all about Christians killing people to steal their wealth under the pretense they were 'reclaiming the holy land'. They killed anyone along the way who had something they wanted (women, land, wealth, etc.) including fellow Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
All religions are capable of evil when misinterpreted. It's a basic flaw of dogma. If your leader interprets the dogma in one way it becomes the will of god and you are bound to believe it and act on it. Islamic terrorists believe in their interpretation of Islam and think they are doing good. Well, the followers do, I doubt the leaders are that stupid. - Shadow120, on 08/07/2008, -3/+8Dugg you up, so I could digg you down twice.
- soomprimal, on 08/07/2008, -0/+5"Although we consider [movies, television and music] entertainment, they are actually infotainment," he concluded, noting that they "impart values and information about the world, maybe information about life, that your kids are not ready to process and absorb."
Don't necessarily disagree with this, but you could say the same thing about church or religion... but 'terrorists', really? Stop capitalizing on the buzzword of the decade. - pitchblackjava, on 08/07/2008, -4/+9This just in: Christians think weird things.
- leerayIG88, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5I guess they know about my Counter-Strike bomb sites...
- Shaqueefa, on 08/07/2008, -7/+11The fact that the Christian Post can't handle the digg effect is proof God doesn't exist.
- digiguy, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5These religious fanatics are the terrorists. They are terrorizing people's mind's with their opinions. Not what is actually in everyone's bible. Why don't they just live their lives and leave the rest of us who believe in other things, the ***** alone!!!
Video games, computers, cell phones, teen magazines, music, TV, & movies are all a part of human existence. ***** live with it -
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