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- HalsMyPal, on 01/13/2009, -1/+33how about
Orange Box
PC>360>PS3
yeah..... that's much better - mysn239, on 01/13/2009, -5/+36Mortal Kombat: Genesis > SNES
Aladdin: Genesis > SNES
Xmen vs Streetfighter: Sega > Playstation
Tetris: Gameboy > NES
The Orange Box: 360 > PS3
Spider-Man Web of Shadows: DS > Everything
Samba de Amigo: Dreamcast > Wii - goldenballs21, on 01/12/2009, -0/+28Aladdin, I think I literally played that game about 100 times...
- bustaballs, on 01/12/2009, -1/+17I dugg this article because it has some great mentions. Mortal Kombat for Genesis and most of fighters for the Saturn were much better than the competitors. However, I was on the verge of burying it as inaccurate for the claims of certain systems being technologically inferior when it simply isn't true. They try to make it seem like the SNES is a monster beast compared to the Genesis when the Genesis could hold it's own in the graphics department just fine. The Saturn was just as capable as the Playstation of producing high quality graphics games. The PS1 did have a few abilities the other didn't, such as native transparency.
Youtube Shenmue for Saturn and tell me it doesn't look better than most PS1 games.
Play ANY game on 360 or PS3 and tell me if you can see a significant difference.
Forgive me, though. I'm an old school Sega fanboy. Outside of that it was a great article. - r0g3r, on 01/13/2009, -3/+18I think it's widely known that the SNES's color palette and audio were superior to the Genesis. The Genesis could only display 64 colors on screen at a time, where the SNES could do 256. Genesis = 6 channel audio, SNES = 8 channel. The Genesis had a faster CPU clock speed, but the SNES had much more memory (1meg vs 64k). Overall, the SNES is a bit more powerful, though the Genesis is still a great console.
- ancalagon73, on 01/13/2009, -0/+14The Genesis Aladdin was indeed one of the better movie to game adaptations.
- racketboy, on 01/13/2009, -0/+13Aladdin wasn't a port, but a completely different game.
And the Saturn was superior to the PS1 in terms of 2D crunching and RAM needed to swap characters on the fly. - kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -0/+10The 360 is very easy to tap that power while the PS3 is theoretically more powerful but much harder to tap. Wait for better cell compilers and libraries to make a decision. If they ever come.
The 360 is designed for direct X and provides unified shaders which reduced bottle necks. The PS3 needs you to hand tool it to keep it's SPU's busy.
For reference look up John Carmac on the PS3 - TheTaoOfBill, on 01/13/2009, -1/+10The NES had loading times?
- Nayson, on 01/13/2009, -0/+8I was hoping somebody had already said that. In terms of 2D power, the Saturn was a superior machine to the Playstation.
- Jonmad17, on 01/13/2009, -0/+8Doom 3 should be on that list. The Xbox version, with its added co-op, is better than the PC version.
- djruden, on 01/13/2009, -0/+8The NES version of "loading time" was when too many sprites got on the screen at once and the game would slow down until you got rid of one of them.
- ArmandoM, on 01/13/2009, -0/+7Unless you can play with a keyboard and mouse it's not better.
- FriedTurkey, on 01/12/2009, -3/+10The Shaun White for Wii is better than the next gen systems. The balance board kicks ass on it.
- BeBigs, on 01/13/2009, -0/+7Genesis Children Unite!
- x0epyon0x, on 01/13/2009, -0/+7Where was Command & Conquer for the TI-89 Graphing Calculator? Far superior to its PS1 and N64 brethren.
- kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -1/+8A PC game people still play with reverence vs a Console game which was almost playable. hmmm.. I think your argument needs a little work.
- Philbert, on 01/13/2009, -0/+6Tetris: My friend's dad found the Tengen one at a video rental store back in the NES days and rented it knowing full well he was not returning it (but did pay the "i lost it" fee), that's how good and rare it was. From what had heard, Tengen basically just ported games from other systems to NES, this much is true, however I had understood that they did not have permission to do so in the case of Tetris and thus got sued. Then Nintendo made their crappy version. I do know that this happened a LOT with Tetris. When the original original Tetris was made Pajitnov barely had it out the door before it was essentially stolen and went on sale from like 100 other companies.
- Elranzer, on 01/13/2009, -0/+6Ah, SNES vs Genesis. That was a REAL system war. Of course, there was also the TurboGrafx 16, Atari Lynx and Philips CD-i which no one cared about.
These days, the 360 vs PS3 "war" doesn't cut it. There's basically no difference between cross-platform games. At least in the case of Genesis vs SNES, we got to argue having blood vs smoother gameplay in Mortal Kombat. - uberduger, on 01/13/2009, -0/+6You have next-gen already?!?! AWESOME!
- kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -1/+7Genesis vs SNES: The genesis had a faster CPU but an inferior sound chip, less ram and much worse graphics chip. It's color pallet was anemic and it's sounded pretty muddy. It's only saving grace was a bit more responsiveness. In general the SNES looked and sounded better by a margin which is difficult to compare to today. In general it was like comparing a 360/PS3 game to it's Wii/GC/Ps2 version. However as with the Wii, what kept Sega in the running was the year head start and the slightly beefier CPU.
360 vs PS3: Cross platform games will usually try to stake out the middle ground between the two platforms so it won't be a pain to release concurrent versions. As such most cross platform games will not show off what each system does best. 360 is great at steady frame rates while the PS3 will likely have more complicated AI. I'd agree The advantages over each other are more in little details. Xbox live > PSN,x2 BD > x12 DVD in most ways, and PS3 HD (any 2.5") > 360 HD (custom cased extortion priced crap). - caddyalan, on 01/12/2009, -1/+6Some games can be more enjoyable on a portable system, no matter how technically inferior the portable device might be. On the original Gameboy, games like Tetris and Duck Tales worked. It helped that there was no loading times, or a need for special effects.
- inactive, on 01/13/2009, -1/+6Aladdin ftw.
- fuzzynyanko, on 01/13/2009, -2/+7The 360 underperforming compared to the PS3 as far as horsepower goes is definitely subjective. I have seen software developers say that the 360 is more powerful, while others say the PS3 is.
- fuzzynyanko, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5Also, the Genesis had a Yamaha OPL sound synthesizer, while the SNES had something closer to wave table. Wave table is easier to make sound better on a console
- keviniskool, on 01/13/2009, -1/+6Samba de Amigo for the Wii was great. If they actually played the game for more than fifteen minutes, they would know it actually worked on higher difficulties. Did it work differently from the Dreamcast? Yes. But it still worked. I beat the entire game on Super Hard. Plus, the Wii version had far more songs and downloadable content.
- inactive, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5It had 7 processors, the saturn had potential.
- kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5It's the unified shaders. One less bottleneck means better frames. While the PS3 has to wait for the busiest shader the 360 can use any of them but at the cost of all of them being slower. The comparison is somewhat flawed as well because it's the 5th ot 6th waveof 360 game while it's the 3rd of PS3 games. Many console exclusives look much better (on both sides) but there is still a fair amount of capability int he PS3 which remains untapped (due to it being friggin hard to tap).
- trdrstv, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5Most people don't like to admit that the PS2 was technically inferior to the Gamecube. For some reason they feel it "tarnishes" the PS2...
- eedok, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5I don't know about the PS3, but I got a copy of the Orange Box with my 360, and I already had it on my computer, and the graphics on the 360 are like medium with high shader quality
- robbiedo, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5At the time, Aladdin, Genesis version, was one of the most astounding video games at the time. I was amazed how a video game could so effectively "bring alive" the wonderful Disney animation in not only look and feel, but the humor and story.
I may install the Genesis emulator on my Netbook just to relieve the experience.
Welcome to Agrabah! - BedPost, on 01/13/2009, -1/+6Math major, I presume?
- toughluck2, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4I believe the author is speaking strictly in terms of horsepower, not how it's being used. Oh wait, no, I know that:
"Now hold on; we’re not saying the 360 is inferior to the PlayStation 3 overall (the issue is subjective, but we’re willing to say the 360 excels over the PS3 in many key areas), we just mean the 360 underperforms in comparison via hardware and horsepower."
And you might claim that to be subjective, but if Sony has claimed that its system is more powerful, but has yet to show us any of that power, I think it's fair to criticize Sony for that. You do understand that Sony is the one being criticized here, right? - kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -1/+5Diminishing returns is kicking in. 10% beefier in theoretical performance = no real difference. 10% beefier and 90% harder to utilize = diminished third party support.
I like and prefer my PS3 but Sony went the wrong way. They should have kissed every developers ass and made a good API to go along with their nice machine. MS made a ***** machine with a amazing API so the developers flocked to them. Where the developers go, so do the games. Where the games go, so do the gamers. - lordmike, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4Where are the Atari 2600 games? there was no greater challenge than to port a real arcade game to a system that had two sprites and 128 bytes (yes, bytes) of RAM! I guess I'm getting old, 'cos everyone has seemed to have forgotten THE grandaddy of game systems...
- toughluck2, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4You're implying that Shaun White is good... at all? What?
- chaosblade77, on 01/12/2009, -0/+4I didn't know the Tengen Tetris was rare. I have that locked in a box at my grandparents house with a bunch of other NES games. I should probably go through that stuff.
- Ashkc88, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4Tengen Tetris for NES > GB Tetris
- toledojon, on 01/13/2009, -1/+5Hmm, I was expecting another generic list, I actually kinda liked this one.
- diggmeordie, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4I had the SNES version which was different, but still an awesome game. It was one of the best platformers of its time.
- kingmanic, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4uberduger: 30% fail is ***** hardware. Can't think of any other electronics product that got away with 30% failure rates. The hardware build quality and design was very poor all the way up to even the last generation of them (which still is said to have a 10% fail rate). Even the dirt cheap wii and PS2 fail rates were nowhere close to that.
- gordmoo, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4its a bit misinforming to just compare audio channels, for example there is no mention of the fact that the mega-drive was able to generate true wave form sound whist the snes had to live with the midi like instrument set.
the mega-drive also had a *much* faster clock speed, indeed it had a z80 co-processor designed purely for compatibility with the master system that was barely used that was quicker than the snes chip.
Also the snes did not have 1meg of ram, that's just inaccurate, it had 128kb of main memory with the mega-drive having 64kb of main memory. given the cartridge nature memory is not that big of a deal.
I am not saying either is better but more that they were competitors each with their own strengths and to just make up numbers like that and compare inaccurately is a complete fallacy - Elranzer, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4There is a little-known third Tetris game for the NES, developed by Bullet-Proof Software. The Gameboy version was also made by Bullet-Proof Software, not Nintendo themselves.
They also made the forgotten Faceball 2000 and Yoshi's Cookie. - enderwiggen16, on 01/13/2009, -1/+5I kind of laughed out how they pretty much said the Xbox 360 was an inferior system. I'm proud of the fact that Digg isn't having a stupid ***** over it. While the PS3 does have more peak performance, generally multiplatform games turn out better on the 360 because of the difficult design architecture on the PS3.
- dandonia, on 01/13/2009, -1/+5Yup what I ***** list and what a ***** article - 5th from GR in 2 weeks. In future I would like to see "Games Radar ***** Article - as a preface to the title.
They are basically choosing which console is inferior - which they agree is subjective. A better article would have compared Tiger Woods 06 on the xbox which was clearly a better game than Tiger Woods 06 on the 360, or Splinter Cell Double Agent - which was again better on the xbox than the 360 as it had co-op and a more indepth story. - You can say the xbox is inferioir to the 360 it is not a subjective term. Just like they could have shown Master System Mortal Kombat vs SNES Mortal Kombat.
I ***** hate Games Radar. - Awezing, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4You sir, are so mistaken, I don't have the words to describe.
If Halo invented the FPS, then WoW invented the MMO. - superflyingfly, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4Ya. I let my friend borrow that game and he ended up selling it at a garage sale. for a measly $5 too -_-
- TheTaoOfBill, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Yup. You've got a game that's worth at least 30 bucks for just the cartridge. And if you still have the box and instructions for it you might be able to get more. Pretty good deal for an NES game.
Now if you had tetris for the Sega Genesis that would be even more impressive. - FENWAYFREAK, on 01/13/2009, -2/+5Why even put The Orange Box on the list of best video game ports if they just talk about how bad a port it was?
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