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- gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+57Nintendo really seems to keep proving everybody wrong while showing that they know what the public really wants. When the original DS and the the PSP first came out; most of the pundits were on about how superior the PSP was, and claiming the gimmicky dual screen was dumb. Now you barely hear about the PSP, other than companies dumping support for UMD. On the console front, It's starting to look like the wii will steal the show, for a while at least anyway; especially given the new controller. Nintendo understands that price point matters and for most people, good enough will do. They're also pretty much the only platform for kids; Sony and MS barely have any titles for the under ten set; Nintendo has always dominated that market. They're the handheld and the console most parents will be buying for christmas and birthdays for the next few years.
- Namco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28PSP is like a portable ps2. No innovation. DS has tons of out-of-th-box games that are played with the touchscreen, add in the dual screen and low price and you've got a winner. Dual screens and cool games like nintendogs, mario kart DS, brainage, etc, etc, etc are the innovation here. What few games for PSP there are are dummied down ports of PS2 games.
- Alteron, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28We'll other then the lack of innovation in the PSP, people dont really want multi-functional devices like that, cell phone companies realised that, and now all the good cell phones are slick simple designes with no video, or mp3, or any of that. So congrats to Nintendo on knowing the market!
- bob_the_alien, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22@ NeoTechni
While I'll agree with you that allot of the things the PSP offered were nice, and I was very excited about it originaly and couldn't wait for my pre-order, what sony has done to the PSP after it came out is what has destroyed it. The price for the memory stick was way to high the first year, and without a large memory stick most of the PSP's capabilities were debunked.
Also, graphics and processing power do not make for innovation, that's what everyone does, so it's not innovative. However, I did like the multi-function device in the size, was nice, but then the UMD's were also a bad idea, something you can't use on any other device and no way to write to it. Sony destroyed something that could have made waves, but with the DS, Nintendo gets it, they keep it within a good price range, everything they offer is there when you buy it, you don't have to buy extras just to use the device, and even if the technology has been around for awhile, the use of a touch screen, and the two screens have made for very innovative game play, even the mic. Play Trace Memory and you will know what I mean. Puzzles unlike I've ever seen before, took me forever to figure out exactly what I needed to do, and in the end they were so simple, that's innovation, simplicity that challenges the player in game play, and thus graphics and processing power do not matter. - CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21ryke12: "So anyways, let me outline a situation for you. I'm sitting down, and I see something I want to take a picture of. I pull out my DSC-P200 (rated VERY highly, and I luvs it), snap a few pictures, and put it away. Then I take out my 1 gig Memory Stick Pro Duo from the camera, put it into the PSP, and view my pictures in glorious beauty, regardless of where I am. I don't have to worry about looking at the relatively small (compared to the PSP) screen on the P200 (2 inches), and I can admire my bad bad photography skills."
Let me outline a situation for you. I'm sitting down and I see something I want to take a picture of. I pull out my Panasonic Lumix TZ1 (rated very highly, smallest 10x optical zoom with optical image stabilization), snap a few pictures and put it away. Then I take out my 2 gig SD card from the camera and put it in my Palm E2 and look at my pictures in glorious beauty, regardless of where I am. Or put that same 2 gig SD card into my Avaretec 12" laptop and view them on my nice big ultrabrite screen. Or, hanging out at a friend's, I pop it out of my camera and into her Dell Axim handheld. Or, over at my other friend's house, I pop it into his new Panasonic 60" plasma TV with an SD card reader built in. Or, I put it into my SD card movie player adapter for my Nintendo DS Lite and check em out there.
There are many advantages to using something that supports a standard (SD cards) rather than a Sony-only format (Memory Stick). Then you can use the best tool for each job regardless of manufacturer and they'll all work together. Nearly every Pocket PC and Palm reads SD (none do MS). Nearly every new laptop reads SD (only some do MS). Nearly every TV that supports memory cards supports SD (most don't do MS). And nearly every consumer digital camera supports SD (with the exception of Sony and Fuji/Olympus which use their proprietary MS and xD cards). - bethanyb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I couldn't agree more gwjc. It seemed like Sony was sure they would dominate the handheld market when they released the PSP, but look at the sales in North America, and especially Japan. People are ready for change and innovation. That's what the DS brought and that's what the Wii is going to bring.
- briansorders, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16i havent had a handheld system since gameboy like 10 years ago ... so i'm very impressed with the ds lite
- thejokell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I haven't bought a video game system since the Dreamcast - I just haven't been impressed enough by either a game or a system to spend hundreds of dollars on one. And my last portable machine was a Game Gear many years ago.
But I recently bought a DS Lite. The New Super Mario Bros and Mario Kart DS were enough to make me really want one. I'm also seriously thinking about getting a Wii when it comes out.
So kudos to Nintendo, they really know what they're doing and they're able to get ex-gamers like me back into the game. - PopeOfDope, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I have to agree with the comment about lack of innovation.
The best game on the PSP for me so far is Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Guess what, it's a port of a game I already have on my PS2. - iRusty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I work at Game Stop and I must say, when the PSP came out, I eagerly snatched one up. Who wouldn't say no to a system that is capable of displaying modern home console class graphics on a portable? All sorts of people agreed with me too. We had stacks of used DSs that people had traded in to get the new PSP. Unfortunately, Sony fumbled the ball. UMD became a joke because of its high prices and lack of extra features and now support is dropping. All of the PSPs awesome media capabilities are not really available without a large memory stick, preferably a 1 or 2 gig stick. And the games flat out suck. GTA: LCS wasn't even all that great. The tides have turned and now we have stacks of PSPs that people have traded in to get their new DS Lites, largely due to the incredible form factor and amazingly innovative games available for it. I no longer have my PSP and I DO have a DS Lite, and I will be going that way in the next generation of consoles, by purchasing a Wii and not a PS3. All I have to close with is, thank god for Nintendo.
- neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Funny the DS is 2 years old and just now people open their eyes to Nintendo.
- Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I remember when the ds came out... we all thought wow sony is on the right track with the psp... and the ds had a dry season of good games when it first came out and the first couple of months.... untill nintendo started really pushing for good games for the ds... thats what really sold it, and what really sold me on the ds was online mario kart.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11The PSP hasn't got a killer game and thats the killer. The DS has numerous killer games making it the easy choice for me.
If Sony had bought the rights to Sonic or partnered with sega and launched one of those titles with the PSP I would bet it would have a fun game. - spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I really want to buy a DS lite, but I'm scared, I'm scared that the games aren't deep enough, that they're all just one trick ponies (REALLY REALLY GOOD TRICKS) stretched out into full games. I'm talking specifically about Mario Kart and New Super Mario, I love the games, but I'm not sure if I want to spend 200 bucks for a DS and two games. I dunno, I really want someone to convince me to buy one, so go right ahead. The thing that's stopping me: Games getting old too quickly.
- zboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think that Nintendo is doing it right with the DS. When the DS first came out I was excited, and thought PSP would be lame. PSP came out and I realized I was wrong. I saw the power of the PSP and thought this is going to be great. Then Sony got involved and did nothing. They have done upgrades to firmware like the browser (which has a horrid cache) and added Flash support (if you like Flash 6). Other then that it has not improved or even really been used all that well. Meanwhile Nintendo continued to be innovative with teh DS and is going to be bringing out Opera for it, a real browser.
I continue to be pleased with my DS and will be holding onto it for a longtime. - Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Am I the only one in the world that likes both my DS Lite and PSP equally? You fanboys can fight over who's handheld is better or doing better in the market, but to me they are both winners. I don't get this crap that people say that PSP games aren't as fun as Nintendo's.. I can tell you right now that I've logged a lot more hours of Ridge Racer on the PSP than I have on the DS when I actually did have it for the DS. Speaking of racing games.. How many good racing games are out on the DS? One? I thought so. I've heard it said best as far as racing games are concerned on the DS.. There's Mario Kart, then there's the rest. That's pretty much how it boils down. The PSP definatly gets higher marks on racing games than the DS does with the exception of Mario Kart. On the other hand, I can not legally play Mario Kart, New Super Mario Brothers, or Metroid on my PSP either.
They both have their own strength and weakenesses in the types of games they have. I enjoy both systems equally for what they have. However there's one more thing I do want to mention in favor of the PSP.. Locoo Rocco.. Enough said.. That's just a game that shows that Sony's starting to get it. I admit, Sony themselves hadn't made the best games, but I think they have gold with Locco Rocco. - CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6ryke12: "Lemme just group the vast majority (all involving sd cards except the camera, which I concede), and say this. They support usb correct? Seems like the PSP can act as a Memory Stick Duo reader, ne? Seems like you don't have much of an argument there anymore."
Actually, that doesn't have anything to do with my argument. My argument was that it's silly to pick a proprietary format like a memory stick because it prevents you from being able to use that same thing in lots of different products from lots of different companies. What difference does it make if the PSP can act as a memory card reader with USB? I still can't plug that memory stick into my Palm, my friend's Pocket PC, my friend's Panasonic 60" plasma, etc. With a standard supported by lots of companies, like SD, I can. - wulfflower, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@Alteron
People do want multi-functional devices, the problem is that the PSP just doesn't seem to do ALL of them very well. - bob_the_alien, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6of all the current consoles including handhelds I've had a PSP, PS2, Gamecube, and a DS, of all of those, I now only have a DS, I just up and realized I never play anything but the DS it's got the most fun of all the systems, the PSP I grew to hate, only 2 games I enjoyed at all for the PSP was Untold Legends. after that, and the price of a Memory stick, I decided it was time to go to my local game store and got cash for them.
I'm currently thinking about Purchasing a 360, but after hearing the price of a PS3, no way am I going to support Sony this time around, but I'm for sure buying a Wii. - LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5And don't forget about the upcoming Mario Hoops 3v3, Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Starfox Adventure, Final Fantasy 3 remake, Mario vs Donkey Kong: Attack of the Minis, the two Pokemon games, or any of the other titles coming out later this year. The DS is a system that's still pushing strong and this news combined with the strong lineup of game titles shows it. Oh, and don't forget that if you never had a GBA, this'll allow you to play any of those games, effectively doubling or tripling your available titles.
- Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4whatever genre of games you like the ds has excellent ones for it
Fps: metroid
Racing: mario kart
Rpg: Animal Crossing
Strategy: Advance wars dual strike
Platforming: new super maio brothers
And soo much more... i love my ds... ive had every game boy and even though the ds is not techically a gb its still one of my fav portable gaming devices - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Nobody wants to read a blog entry by someone who spells bought as "baught".
- sclr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5same here. before i bought my ds the last gaming unit i had was the dreamcast. it was such a great console. the ds is innovative and the games are cool. and the wii looks better than the last 6 years of gaming. its about time a game company added some more complexity and activity to video gaming. about time for improvement.
- LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Ryke: PS2 != PSP. While they do have some overlapping games, well...they're not the same.
- fingiecrookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Basically, admit it: you have to really TRY in order to not have anything that is Sony brand in your house, correct?"
No effort whatsoever. But then again, I'm a pretty wise guy. - chocobomog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4While I am happy for the DS, this title is a little misleading and the article isn't saying anything that we didn't expect. The title makes it sound like the DS sold more units than any other gaming system ever, when in reality it was the top selling system in June. So a popular game company released a "new" highly-anticipated gaming system and that gaming system is the top selling system for the month it launched and we consider this big news? Couldn't the same be said for the Dreamcast, PS2, XBox, Gamecube, and 360 when they were released?
Don't get me wrong, I love my DS Lite and have probably put 250 hour into it since I got it at launch. But it is not doing anything completely out of the ordinary when it comes to game sales. - ChicagoDS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5When people see the single card wireless multiplay the units sell themselfs!
- fingiecrookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I guess what I'm asking for is a game that has deep gameplay, not 12 game suggestions. I'm a poor college student!"
Try Advance Wars Dual Strike. You won't be sorry. - bob_the_alien, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Oh, I know that in game development processing power has a bearing on the games, however, how many great games came out of the 2600, or the NES, or SNES, or etc..., The DS is basically a N64, maybe a bit better in power and graphics. and with that, you can create a good game.
I will give you one thing though, the web browser, the DS doesn't need it, and on the PSP it wasn't need it, it was a passing idea that I thought was great at first, but on either handheld, you really don't have the resoultion to use the web broswer, so what's the point. - KidDynamite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I love the DS Lite as much as anybody, and it IS an awesome system, but why is this news? It LAUNCHED in June. Of course it's going to sail to the top of the charts in its first month of release, every system (well most) does that at launch.
- dr1ft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@NeoTenchi:
The PSP may or may not contain numerous technological innovations. The problem (the reason the DS is more innovative) is that the PSP doesn't allow for the same kind of innovation in games as the DS does. We can argue all day long over which console is itself more innovative, but that would lead no where because the point of these machines is to play games. It's clear that the DS provides much more opportunity for developers to create new and original game experiences than the PSP. The DS therefore is a more innovative gaming platform. - BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"and have so much processing power (yes, that is innovative to developers)"
Not so much anymore as it used to. Now it's just the same 3D stuff only more resolution and with more effects, not really innovation, just prettiness. Alternate input mediums will deliver greater innovation but only when widely adopted to be developed for. The reason stuff like that can't catch on the PC is because it never gets adopted well enough by people for the developers to bother making their games work with it, and thus games that use it don't come out, defeating the reason why people would want to buy this method of input in the first place. The PC environment isn't conducive to that kind of change (unless Microsoft does it, like with Force Feedback).
Alternate methods of input are only one way to deliver innovation though. The X-Box 360 deserves credit for using the internet to deliver innovation with X-Box Live as well. - dunstdunst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://wii-wii.us
- ChicagoDS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1honestly I was a little disapointed with The New Super Mario Brothers Single card play. I think the big N could of flaunted the feeling of single player much better. I find just letting someone play the new SMB In single player mode gets them hooked faster than hypes to a crack-rock.
- ChicagoDS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3My girl bought me a DS PHAT around christmas of last year in order to prvent me from buying a gba sp. I wanted a sp because it was slick and I could play classic 16 bit titles on it. So I got the ds.. It was better than I expected but I was frowned on oftenly at work when I whipped it out... Till mariokarts release all the sudden I had all types of previously critical to the ds people wanting to borrow my system on thier lunchbreaks. Most of them didnt own a DS or PSP at that point most of them still said theyed rather get a PSP UNTIL I picked up a ds LITE and kept my ds phat as well, now I bring both units to work (or wherever.) and tend to attract a small crowd as me and a fellow employee duke it out on metroid prime hunters, people saying "I got next" and "um where do I pick up the slick looking one and for how much". New lite units are popping up left and right at work now, I should be DS sales rep.
- ChicagoDS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2if looking for more complex games that have more depth.... Metroid Prime Hunters anyone??
- bob_the_alien, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4The New Super Mario Brothers and Mario Kart are really good, but if you think that's all the DS has going for it, you sadly mistaken, Theirs Lost Magic, very fun rpg, then Trace Memory, if your into adventure games your going to love it, then theirs Caslevania: Dawn of Sorrow, another great game in the Castlevania series, brought to you in the old style, while using many of the capabilities of the DS. Also a new DS Castlevania is coming down the line soon as well. Also Metroid Prime hunters, I mean come on, great game after great game, and then theirs the Online support, which for me, gave Mario Kart and Metroid Prime that extra boost that still has me playing it over and over again.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I would say Sony has all the capabilities to execute and implement good systems but no good ideas or innovations. Nintendo has both.
- dangerousLEH, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Between news of retailers dumping UMD's and now rumors of the PS3's supply... it kinda makes you wonder if they might be goin' the way of Sega. They have good ideas they just can't seem to execute them well.
- iceblademan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2In the fine print of the article you will find this:
** NPD Group is a subsidary of Nintendo Entertainment Inc. All rights reserved - Weenis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I haven't bought a handheld system since the Sega Game Gear(which I loved)... A friend bought a DS lite and I was so impressed with it, I went out and bought one the next day.
- piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder if the market is growing or is just the people who have the old DS buying the lite.
- Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I think Nintendo hit a home run with that idea. Nintendo didn't ignore the very thing that sold gaming pc's.. Demos! You got to face it, when you do play multiplayer on a single cart your actually sharing a demo of that game you payed for. When people go to buy a DS, they are likely to buy a copy of that multiplayer game for themselves as well. Other people with their own DS that played off of your cart are likely to also buy that game as well. I'll give Nintendo credit for finding a viral way to sell games that works!
- mikeslemonade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2^
You forgot Final Fantasy 3, a game that is anything but shallow. You might think Nintendo is making cartridge based games that are short and fit for handheld, but Final Fantasy 3 should keep you busy. It's not out yet though. - ahirreddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Both. Innovative games, 4-16 player single card wireless play, and the new DS Lite attract both DS phat owners and potential buyers. I can't say how many friends I have gotten to buy a new DS after playing a round of Mario kart, new super Mario, and metroid prime on my ds's.
- ChicagoDS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Amen, I got my buddies to pick up mariokart and prime hunters via single cart downloadable play.
- spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I guess what I'm asking for is a game that has deep gameplay, not 12 game suggestions. I'm a poor college student!
- JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Your site is a default instalation of wordpress, and is writen as well as your post, which is not very. Don't spam Digg with your blog links.
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