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- schestowitz, on 09/18/2008, -7/+214Treat all your customers like "criminals" and "criminals" they will soon become.
- columb, on 09/18/2008, -4/+115Spore RELOADED has ***** DRM ! :-)
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -12/+107Its not just the DRM, the game is total crap too. Each level feels like its trying to be a whole game unto itself, so it feels like 5 crappy games instead of one good one.
Uninstalled it already, saved 7 gigs on my hard drive. - abhorsen, on 09/18/2008, -9/+84I wont be buying spore I am not giving £45 to EA for them to treat me like *****.
- inactive, on 09/19/2008, -3/+68I got it free, brand new, from the Internets.
- davecachia, on 09/18/2008, -6/+69I for one will not buy a game that has any DRM implications attached to it. I will install it on as many PC's as I want. I bought it, go to hell. And for games like this with DRM policies, I will spite it by downloading it on my favorite NewsGroup or Torrent site. Enjoy your loss of business.
-Dave - MaxMWood, on 09/18/2008, -6/+68Dear Dave,
Please don't sign your comments.
-Max - Rushyo, on 09/18/2008, -4/+65The game had so much potential and the reason it has failed to live up to consumer expectations are the idiotic assumptions that:
a) The player base are too stupid to enjoy a game with any kind of gameplay beyond repeated clicking.
b) The player base are all pirates, who need locking down with the worst DRM ever released for a major piece of software.... and that's after EA toned it down.
Supply and demand. We demand a product, you supply it. Don't pretend consumers are beholden to your whims.
When I talked to my friends about Spore and half of them said "I'm not sure. I've heard about the DRM." or "I'm not sure. EA have a poor reputation for support." that isn't a tangible thing for EA. It doesn't show up in sales reports... EA's CEOs don't hear about it. But it's there. - Shaggy3, on 09/19/2008, -7/+55I do feel bad for Will Wright though.. He put a lot into this project.
- Rushyo, on 09/18/2008, -0/+36Addendum: Remember what happened last time you annoyed your consumer base to hell, EA? What happened to all those ethical changes you started enacting? Your consumers not buying your products when they want the software is a lose-lose situation. Remember what happens when you treat people like crap? Remember Westwood? Learn from your mistakes please!
- inactive, on 09/19/2008, -2/+33You can share content with other Spore RELOADED users. Not that it matters, because the game is pretty lame.
- antdude, on 09/19/2008, -0/+30I hope he doesn't stick with EA.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -3/+33Really, anybody who buys stuff with this DRM rubbish attached are enemies of all us other consumers, because they're sending the message to the companies that it's OK to treat us like rubbish, and we'll pay for the privilege.
- flatfish, on 09/18/2008, -0/+28I agree with you Roy.
In the digital audio recording world it is not uncommon for engineers to legally own programs like Nuendo or Waves ($$$$$) but to instead run the cracked copies because they don't wish to pollute their systems with protection schemes that always seem to fail at the worst moment.
Usually about 3AM or so and in the middle of a session.
I don't consider these people criminals because they own a license, however it's sad that things have come to this level.
I am all for companies being allowed to protect their investments however DRM is not the way to do it.
Why?
Spore is already all over the net in various cracked copies so who is really being punished here?
The honest user who purchases the game, that's who.
Just my 2 cents.
No refunds :) - Ismith988, on 09/19/2008, -1/+28Dear Max,
don't copy that floppy!
-Ismith - trafficlight, on 09/19/2008, -1/+26I played it. It was awful. Most people agree.
Each part has been done better by some other game. World of Warcraft, Starcraft, Civilization. It's 5 ***** games in one with no reason to play it. - pablo0713, on 09/18/2008, -0/+24I hear ya. I went against my rule of not pirating just to make a statement by downloading the RELOADED version of Spore. Been playing it since last night. It's more like something you watch and passively interact with than it is a game. I hope a serious developer comes along, takes the idea of Spore and turns it into something a bit more cohesive and realistic.
- sblanz, on 09/18/2008, -1/+25WARNING!!! DRM INSIDE!!! Keep out of DRM!!
- firebirdx01, on 09/19/2008, -2/+21Dugg for a worthy cause.
DRM has nothing to do whether you pirate or not- it's just a futile effort by the producers to control what they cannot control. Even a 13-yr old would know how to crack Spore, the inclusion of DRM is as pointless as the FBI warning before movies but worse, it only wastes the Paying user's time and resources. - batshitcrazy, on 09/19/2008, -5/+24i'm an animator in the games industry, and in college i pirated a couple titles. i had no money...so i can understand why some people occasionally pirate games. now that i'm a professional though, it does sometimes irritate me a little. if you truly can't afford to pay for a game (that hundreds of people worked on for years of their lives), then sure what the hell, at least our work is being appreciated... but my company has profit-sharing, so when people pirate it directly reduces my income. so that's not cool. it's not a big hit, but just realize what you're doing isn't totally victimless. so... don't pirate if you don't need to, i guess that's my point. also if the studio had the extra income, it could provide more opportunity to fund new, more experimental titles, instead of having to stick with old conventions that we know are profitable.
- Topkill, on 09/19/2008, -0/+17Speaking of Westwood, you would think that all of this bad press would lead them to at least change their short term DRM plans while this whole thing is fresh in everyone's minds. But NO, they have decided that they are going to be sticking with their draconian DRM for the release of Red Alert 3.
***** EA and ***** DRM - benitojuarez, on 09/19/2008, -0/+16user error
- chikuten, on 09/19/2008, -1/+17no, it's actually right on the money. the game is boring, and i know because i played it religiously until i got frustrated with the simplicity mixed tediousness.
- faheyd, on 09/18/2008, -1/+17It's nice to see that people are now understanding the full impact of DRM and the DMCA. Corporate is trying to take all your rights away. Rights to free use. Hell, some stuff should be free anyways, but they stamp it with copyrights. Stand up and be counted. Shout, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!"
They will try to take anything you have that's free. That's the way of corporate greed. It has no conscience. - inactive, on 09/19/2008, -2/+17Good, ***** EA.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 09/19/2008, -1/+16To be specific, it was an ID-10-T user error, the most common type of user error resulting from a critical system failure between desk chair and keyboard. Usually it can be fixed by updating one's knowledge of computers using appropriate install media (books, Google, classes, etc) but sometimes it involves replacement of said critical part between chair and keyboard as the current one is incapable of processing correct signals into the computer.
- buymagicfish, on 09/19/2008, -3/+17Who cares about the DRM? (for the sake of argument)
The fact is that it's not a good game. It's no where near compelling or satisfying as the simcity or the sims.
All it does is give you a neat editor and remind you of a bunch of games you'd rather be playing. - sirbeta, on 09/19/2008, -0/+13I'm really upset EA is going to do the same thing with Red Alert 3... I mean really, the series has never quite been what it was when Westwood Studios was running the show but I did enjoy the newer games to a decent extent (C&C 3 was pretty fun.) However-- I have no will to pay for a game that punishes me for my OS ***** up or their very own installer being terrible, or upgrading a component on my computer.
If the SecuROM garbage is in RA3, I simply wont pay for it. It's as simple as that. We'll end up with another Spore-like review fiasco all over again. - FaithclubDotNet, on 09/19/2008, -1/+14EA used to be one of the coolest game publishers back in the 80s. EA games meant quality back then. Legacy of the Ancients was my favorite RPG of the 80s. Now, EA tries to crush and acquire the competition so they can be the only company selling games.
- bigteebo, on 09/19/2008, -0/+13It's made by EA AND it has DRM? That's like 2 strikes.
- DeathfireD, on 09/19/2008, -0/+13WTF! they're adding this atrocity to Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 too :(. I'm a die hard Red Alert fan but now I don't have plans of buying the game, damn *****. EA's gonna lose more customers this way and make pirating increase insubstantially.
- truck87bp, on 09/19/2008, -1/+13DRM is taking care of itself folks. If I was a CEO, it would be gone.
By now, EA has probably lost over $50 million in sales because of DRM.
Microsoft has lost much more, down to79% market share and Sony, screw Sony, they started this BS.. - aindilis, on 09/18/2008, -5/+17I won't download off a newsgroup or torrent site - not because there is anything wrong with it - I just don't want to give people ammunition with which to take away my other computer rights. However, these guys should grow up already and start offering their software DRM free and on Linux. I want to buy these games too, I just don't want to give my increasingly precious money to thug monopolists like Gates. Ima give it to FSF, EFF, etc.
- Raptor007, on 09/18/2008, -1/+12I actually did buy the game because I enjoy it, and wanted a real CD key so I could be part of the content-sharing. However, I also downloaded the torrent and am using the cracked exe. (The SecuROM-infested exe was blacklisting YASU, even though Spore doesn't have a disc check.)
Another reason I bought the game: I don't want the publishers to give up on PC gaming entirely! I'm torn about the decision, because I don't want them to think they needed to use SecuROM to get me to buy the game; in fact, I had the pirated release before the game was out. But I also don't want them to think that PC gaming is no longer a lucrative market, so I pay for my games.
We need to crush SecuROM and its DRM sublings (SafeDisc, StarForce, etc) before they kill PC gaming. - wukillabee, on 09/19/2008, -2/+13speaking of piracy.. crysis warhead is a good game :D
- Modiga, on 09/19/2008, -0/+11In case MaIDON's complaint wasn't clear, the Steam version still includes the DRM that comes with the retail version. You'd think they'd just rely on the system Steam has in place, anything else is overkill.
- inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10Apparently the new Crisis has this crap as well. ***** EA.
- sobamushi, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10Microsoft has XBox Live, where you pay them for perks and add-on's and mini games and arcade games, and you know what? People buy those things because they are fun and worth it.
Putting a limit on how many times you can install a game? What if you like to keep reinstalling your OS? It's like saying you can only use your toaster in three different outlets before you need to buy a new toaster, oh but how else will they ever make money if everyone used the same toaster forever?
The solution to making money off games? MAKE GOOD GAMES! - MarkOfTheDead, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10You have to wonder which network will turn out to be the larger one....
- inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10Just torrent it. No DRM.
- compgeek, on 09/19/2008, -0/+9tried it after downloading the reloaded version. Not honestly a bad game but not something I'd pay $50 for either
- dalittle, on 09/19/2008, -1/+10Geez, the PC is dying again? At least I can fix my PC when it has a problem, if it ever has a problem. Unlike the planned breakage of the 360 red ring of death, the blue ray player on the PS3, and what ever else they have loaded on them to gouge you. Console manufacturing lock in? No way, there will always be great PC games and I will never have a console.
- batshitcrazy, on 09/19/2008, -0/+9jedi knight (i think?), wolfenstein, and photoshop
- jaybrennan, on 09/19/2008, -1/+10The first four stages went by fairly fast; it was that last phase, the space phase, that did me in. It was so ***** tedious; the same crap over and over and over, even after you got to the center of the damn galaxy.
- nilhilustfreder, on 09/19/2008, -0/+9It's not any harder to obtain illegally, just more inconvienient and annoying to use legally.
- paulvq, on 09/19/2008, -0/+9"I can't believe people will take it this far having no knowledge of what their talking about."
You have no idea how ironic your statement is. - earlvanze, on 09/19/2008, -0/+8Hey, no one has said:
***** THE RIAA!
Even though they have nothing to do with this, but they use DRM too. And either way, we hate them. - MikeFallopian, on 09/19/2008, -2/+10The problem with Spore is grade-school level gameplay. There's no challenge, no strategy, no replay value (expect to see the same events play out with different looking creatures). The DRM is actually very mild. The whole furor over it is absurd - people demand the ability to install a mediocre game on 6 different machines? Really??
- inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+8I just wish Spore had been an game for serious and intelligent people. I'm sorry if that means children and dumbasses won't buy your game, but I'm sick of things that could be great be turned into ***** because someone in marketing wants to hit more demographics.
They keep assuming your main base will just buy your game no matter what, so its okay to do anything we hate as long as it gets new customers. Keep doing that and your core audience, the ones that determine if you have a company or not are going to say ***** You. - batshitcrazy, on 09/19/2008, -1/+9every night
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