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- g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -4/+42Seems a little goofy to me. But if they're going to tax it they should at least make government services available in-game: virtual welfare for low-income characters, virtual hospitals and ambulances for the injured, virtual cops to bust all those virtual sex offenders that are out there, virtual public transit so there's no need to walk all the time, etc.
- doshindude, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34noooo!!! I wanted to be in a virtual world to ESCAPE taxes!
- b33b3s, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28...and so the revolution of virtual offshore banking began
- 35263526, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27Let's be clear on this; they're _NOT_ talking about taking your hard earned gold when you make that closing bid for the kickass helm at the Auction House. They're taxing you when you use real money to buy something in-game. This seems logical to me, even though I'm against taxation in general.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22No virtual taxation without virtual representation?
- mishabear, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Can I pay them with the gold ore I dig up in game?
- wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10South Korean nerds are going to need a larger allowance.
- Skafia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9So how much vespene gas do they need to harvest now to pay the tax on battle cruisers?
- xerus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11tax rush kekekeke
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Only two things in life are certain, virtual death and virtual taxes.
- Kenelm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7You were right about being dugg down.
- Murdats, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6in the virtual world nothing is certain but death, respawning, and dying again.
- gmillerd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5So like taxing ... eBay
- zeeky, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5virtual offshore banking (VOB)
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Hmm, that's an interesting proposition. Now that they're being taxed, what does the government have to offer the virtual world besides the real world benefits of police, fire protection, roads, etc.?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5District of Columbia license plate slogan, "Taxation without representation"
- Whaines, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You have misunderstood the sarcasm. Dugg down.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4if you drive your car, i'll tax the street. if you try to sit, i'll tax your seat. if you get too cold, i'll tax the heat. if you take a walk, i'll tax your feet.... 'cause i'm the taxman.
- suriyou, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I find that to be *****.
- funkydopeloven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4what real money transactions involve WoW? only the ones against the TOS, which aren't gonna be reported. This only applys to games like Second Life
- TheAcclaimed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah, the title of this story is misleading.
- ivanisavich, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3VOB soon to be taxable, of course.
- ka0tic, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Don't they take out enough taxes in the WOW auction house? I mean theres the deposit fee and the auction fee.
- AmazingAndrex, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Hopefully this will mean virtual enforcement and jail time for people who h4xor for their own profit.
- jeffness, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Considering how wow doesn't condone or enable transactions involving real-world money for virtual goods, this shouldn't affect wow at all.
- FatHed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Dude, it's a game, it's not meant to solve world problems, or personal problems, it's just a game.
- pxbx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Perhaps government funded GM's to help police the game?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It's all fun and games until there's a 40 man raid on some Korean government building.
- Uranium118, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3How will they control that? It's stupid. I don't pay taxes when I buy something from a friend. I'm not going to send them a check for the old DVD I bought at a garage sale...
- milkmage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4idiots! they're not talking about taxing the money you earn IN game. they're talking about taxing the REAL WORLD currency exchanged for virtual items - so if I pay $100 USD for the super sword, the seller get's taxed on the $100 USD I paid. this is no different than any other service you pay for online. for example.. I could do my taxes by myself for free (just like i could farm the super sword for free), but I pay $50 to use turbotax online to save me the time of doing my taxes manually (running 100 instances to get the damn sword). I'm pretty sure intuit is paying taxes on the income they make in exchange for the service they provide.
this tax does not apply to you unless you are a gold seller. - Gilart80, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2As cdnyny said, this is already taxable in the US. As long as it over a certain amount. Your supposed to report your income from Garage Sales, online auctions, and your drug dealer is supposed to report his income as well heh.
Well if this was big industry in the US, then I would start a company, then pay myself an hourly wage which is over what I was making online, then post no profit and voila no taxes. Of course theres more details then that. But whateva. - Sawta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2So...they're taxing gold farmers? Oh no...
- TechCF, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yes. Will be exiting to see if online auction houses have to provide data about it's users.. (read: ebay story)
- webcure, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Definitely an interesting precedent.
Digg it! - ronia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It doesn't make sense at all.
If the government is going to tax the virtual world, the government should serve the virtual world with the money.
Besides, I'm Korean. :( - 35263526, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'd happily pay for said services were they to be provided by private companies. My issue with taxation is that it is forced, whether an individual has any intent to use any or all of the services provided or not. As long as I _do_ pay taxes, if I have to, I may as well get my money's worth, though I'd still rather I wasn't, so that I and others would have real choice about what we spend or buy.
- Evildudetx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They can only tax real world profits made from in game transactions. IE, you sell a sword or sheild for US currency.
Most games are already protected as its a EULA violation to sell in-game items for real cash. Guild Wars and WoW already experienced this - just check ebay.....you won't find any auctions for items anymore. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2If this law does come to America, couldn't one just upload the content to an offshore server and 'sell' it from there?
- tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'd prefer to replace "taxman" with "government". Otherwise, I love the rhyme :)
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2actually, you have a decent point there.
- pak314, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Next up will be a 10% death tax if your character dies. An exception is made for those with less than 1 gold or herb "farmers".
- Wratherin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Alright, let me clear this up a bit. Many (if not most) free online games use cash shops now in order to make money. People have the option of buying items (usually items that temporarily boost states or experience acquisition rates. Also different kinds of equipmen) for real life cash. This tax would be taxing every transaction that takes place where a person buys an item from the game publisher for real life cash.
What makes no sense is there is no need for this tax. Why are they being taxed? This is all being done by private companies and government is not having to pay for anything and so it should not be taxing for money that it does not need.
This worries me because I am currently working wih a fre to play game that will be using a cash-shop (www.2moons.acclaim.com) that was developed in South Korea (and is quite large there) and I certainly would hate to see this kind of law passed in America. - cultist667, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Time we get servers on some deserted island or oil rig in international waters.
- kingamoon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"Is this a preview of things to come in the US?"
No man. American politicians have common sense and they'd never pass something like ... LOL ... I couldn't hold a straight face saying this. It'll be here before the end of the year. - BrandonPerry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What about PlaneShift?
- tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Exactly. If I'm paying taxes, then I'm going to use the ***** roads. I would prefer, however, to use private roads and for the government to not tax me. The government is way too large and inefficient. and I'd rather pay for services from private companies (including private charity) than give anything to the government.
- tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I hope he's being sarcastic.
- newJxE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You require more vespene gas
- FatHed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Me too, but he failed in the delivery. I've done that before.
- Hangender, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yeap. Say you cash charge into your favorite korean game, now you will pay a tax! Woohoo! fun! Thanks to big government!
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