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- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36I bought one last year and played for a solid day, it looked beautiful. It just wasn't actually any FUN.
I took it back three days later and ordered a DS Lite (had to get it from Lik-Sang, which Sony has since sued out of existence). I take my DS everywhere, since the clamshell means I don't have to worry about damaging it in my bag, and I can actually just open it up and be playing something right away, instead of waiting for a UMD to load up. There's a lot to be said for the convenience of auto-hibernate when you close the lid. There are a lot more games that you can play for ten minutes on the subway, as well as more involved ones for longer play when you're at home.
I think Sony was so enamored with the technology in the PSP that they just forgot to pay attention to how people actually use portable game systems. - avisgoth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Wow, you're an idiot.
- daridave, on 10/12/2007, -11/+38Idiot. The PSP hardware is actually worth its expensive price.
It's a great peice of hardware. I loved mine [until I sold it]... problem is content. I really, really wanted to use it. It looked slick. It felt right. But I tried hard to find software that got to me, however never succeeded.
Now, however, I'm having fun with my DS and honestly, I'm hoping 3rd parties would wake the f* up, forget about making idiotic port-games on the PSP and concentrate on actual, new and original content for the DS... and I want to mention, this is NOT another "nintendo vs sony" crappy comment -- it's just that I want to play fun games and so far, the DS is totally kicking ass at doing just that.
In other words, I tought the PSP would be the greatest. I was wrong, so I moved on to the DS. Those ship/sale numbers prove I'm not the only one. Now, I'm waiting for developers to wake up and do the same... otherwise hey, it's their loss, anyway! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27The PSP had great potential, in my opinion. Sony just didn't utilize it well enough. It took forever to release games, the games they released were sub par, the loading times were horrendous, and they didn't make enough online multiplayer games. That's what you get when your too cocky.
- walkingman1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Interesting theory... I know all Diggers love their homebrew, but could it really affect the mass-market sales on such a level? Not saying you're wrong, but hard to believe PSP gamers on the whole are the sort who know about homebrew in their millions. Hard to get a handle on numbers tho...
- Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -10/+30I sold mine after I got a DS, I never played the stupid thing.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Sony may have killed the PSP with all their firmware tampering. Homebrew was one of the biggest selling points of the PSP and Sony tried to kill it.
- Cozmcphish, on 10/12/2007, -14/+32Yeah I liked my PSP so much, I included it for free in my Ebay auction of a PS3.
- awm4, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27I have a PSP and I haven't picked it up in months.
- johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Mine got new life with the PSX on PSP hack, so I can check out the games I never tried in the past. I'm working my way through "Suikoden II" right now, so it's got some purpose.
That said, I also started up Hotel Dusk, and sorry Suikoden - but Dusk is more interesting. - FieldAnonymouse, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Funny, we're not saying it's a failure, we're saying it's dying. Which, it honestly looks like it is. And to die only a couple years after launch, that seems like a failure anyway. I don't care how many units it sold. A life span this short is not good.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"Why doesn't a company release a handheld that contains opensource firmware? Something like that would fly off the shelves!"
It's been done... and wrong. Sad to say, nobody cared.
http://gp2x.co.uk/ - lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Hmm... have they tried marketing it to Hispanic squirrels?
- Lamtd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@fleetskeet:
"Not surprising, considering the PSP games are terrible. I bought one last Christmas and returned it a week later."
Yeah, I guess a whole week is way enough to go through the 58 games on IGN rated 8.0 or more. - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12The major problem for the PSP was that it become a dumping ground for over-priced ports of old PS2 games that everyone already owned, but with worse graphics, worse controls, longer load times and often a higher price than the PS2 version. It didn't have anything unique or interesting to attract buyers besides a shiny outer shell.
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I think the PSP is a great example of how Sony has conflicts of interest from being too large and doing too many things.
The PSP could be a great games and media device, but they purposely gimped the video resolution of the player so they could promote UMD, which was horribly misconceived from the start. We'll buy movies twice? Or buy them once in a totally limited format? Huh? That's pretty optimistic Sony.
As a portable gaming platform it's gimp because of the loading. There's an easy solution, just let you cache game data on the memory card, but they'll never do it because they are so freaking paranoid about piracy. That paranoia effectively cripples the system.
That paranoia then extends into the fact that new games keep requiring new firmware, so if you have downgraded your PSP so you can do the things you actually want with it, you can't go out and buy new games.. Hmm. Yes.. that's brilliant.. A perpetually self-crippling system. Why didn't somebody think of that before... ugh. It's depressing. - jacksons98, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I think Sony's problem is that the games are average around $39. I would've liked to see them more around the $19-29 range espescially when you were essentially buying the same game you could get on your console. It's not that the games were bad, just that so many were just ports and let's face it the games that work well on portables aren't the same games you play while sitting in front of your TV.
- raisinbrainMMM, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16I can't wait to buy one in a Woot Off!
- Anagrama, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15I think Digg needs to get a new "Sony gets PWNED again" category. I hear they are having PR problems.
- enforcerpsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@Toka
I'm sorry, but your exactly the reason why people hate sony fanboys so much. You started to make a small, yet flawed, point...then you ruined it with your "over 14" comment. I would suggest you play the games on the DS before you start into that DS is for kids, PSP is for gangsters comments. - MaynardJK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10And everyone says that the Gamecube was a smash success right?
- Levich, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Lynx, Game Gear, and now PSP, all are victims of the Nintendo Gameboy giant - and don't kid yourselves - its called a DS but its just the Gameboy with two screens - one having touch capabilities...
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14To this day, I can't hear the letters "PSP" without getting that rap from the fake "All I want for Xmas is my PSP" blog stuck in my head...
- liminaldust, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yeah, if only people knew what the psp was capable of, with all the homebrew development..
The only people who should get a psp right now are those who are willing to mess with it to unlock its full potential.
sony can still turn this thing around if they stopped messing with the psp community and let us take its device to new heights by allowing full kernel access; rather than wasting our time trying to exploit its newest firmware security patch. - Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11PSP is good hardware, but its just like the PS3 and Wii. The DS offers a slew of fun games, with a comprimise on graphics quality, same with the Wii. I have Hot Shots Golf on the PSP, and Tiger Woods golf on the DS. The DS almost makes it look like stick figures on a green backgroun compared to the quality of the Hot Shots PSP game, but what wins me over on the DS is the way you swing your club, by swooping your stylus across the screen. In the end, while better quality, Hot Shots is the same old type of golf game you have played before, the DS is a new innovative take on it.
But Sony's biggest problem is they are simply not getting the games franchises established for their products. The PSP suffers from a sever lack of must have games, just a bunch of PSOne and PS2 rehashes and the same tired gameplay we have seen for years.
I generally hate gimmicks, but when a gimmick makes you billions, go for it, as Nintendo has shown. - Frank_the_Tank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ WiseWeasel
$200 PSP? Shazam:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-Portable-PSP-Core/dp/B000F2DE8S/sr=8-2/qid=1170262307/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-3856175-4617259?ie=UTF8&s=videogames - Unlimited, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Got a PSP for almost a year now. I started with Wipeout Pure and Monster hunter Freedom. Both nice games, was still a bit disappointed.
But I'm a PSP fan by now. Lumines1 and 2, Every Extended Extra, Valkyri Profile Lenneth, Exit and soon Metal Gear Portable Ops.
Also cant wait for FFVII: BC - hope they dont mess up.
Oh yea and there is also the whole lot of Homebrew. Great stuff, but I'm too busy for that ATM ^^ - hppypnts, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Sorry this turned out so long.
Sony PSP failed due to a case of mistaken identity and not being in touch with the market.
There are two basic video game markets: avid and casual gamers. Nintendo DS focuses on casual by offering easy, fun games at a low price point. The DS game library is so diverse that it has also managed to capture a large portion of the avid market as well.
PSP price point is obviously targeted to an older, but not too old, more avid video gamer. You can buy 2 DS systems for the price of one PSP. Sony says it understands this gamer but they in fact do not. PSP hardware is awesome BTW, I think most people would not argue about that. The problem is content.
Video Content:
Sony is at a disadvantage because they are not just a hardware company, they are also a media company. For this reason they chose to cripple the video player and only allow hi res full screen viewing with their horrendous UMD format films, which are an unbridled failure. Who wants to pay 15-20 twice for the same movie just so they can watch it on a smaller PSP screen, its ridiculous and clearly shows Sony's disregard for the consumer. iPod plays its proprietary DRM up the bum videos but they also play open format videos without crippling any resolution. Sony's fear kept the PSP from succeeding.
Game Content:
This is Sony's obvious trump card, one they wasted out of hand. They did PSX (Huge Success), they did PS2 (Huge Success) those systems were all about great games from first and third parties. They misunderstood that people don't want to play the exact same games on a big screen as they do on a 2.5" screen (aka Grand Theft Auto) or with the available controls (aka Katamari Damaci (sp?)). They misunderstood that other blockbuster titles are exactly what people want on a portable (aka Gran Turismo). They seem to lack focus on the games they bring to market and for whatever reason lack support from many 3rd parties. They did seem to understand that people might want to play classic games on the PSP and have encouraged compilations of games from older systems. They have also taken their sweet time with bringing PS1 game downloads for PSP to market, which is a huge mistake.
Music Content: They allowed open formats (MP3, etc) to play uncrippled, unlike video. The controls for the music player are clumsy and lets be honest nobody would buy a PSP just to play music. This is like saying I'm going to buy a PS1 to just play music CDs on my TV.
Alot of this is obviously restating the obvious for the well-informed digger but I thought I'd post it up nonetheless - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This might terrify you, but it IS actually possible to enjoy Mario, or Yoshi, or Tetris if you're over 14 - shock horror!! Nintendogs and so on are aimed at a particular group of people, so if you aren't in that group of people you probably won't get much out of it, but there is no reason, other than egotistical chest beating, that any age cannot enjoy decent Nintendo first party titles.
If you tried them and don't enjoy them, fine, but don't disregard them out of hand just because they have bright colours.
P.S. What about Metroid? - Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yeah. People are so hung up about the gameboy they don't realize we don't all have the same tastes. Only games I want to play on DS are the Mario games...and its mainly for the nostalgia aspect of it. I think big thing about the PSP was that it was soo horrible at the start (and middle) that it created reputation for having bad games. Everyone got a DS and since everyone you know has a DS, you get a DS so you can play with them (or what they're playing). You forget completely about what the PSP is doing and don't regret it. After all, last you checked it had all crappy games. Fastforward to end of 06. Great games are out, yet no one knows about it...
Similar to OSX fanboys about XP's blue screen of death and MS fanboys about Mac's right-click. It was a thing of the past but not the present. They just don't bother looking at what's going down.
Then again, this is still Sony/Developer's fault for not doing something at beggining... - BobsYourUncle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's not the first place I'm heard rumours of a PSP 2.0. However, it doesn't make the idea any more credible.
- ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7THEY GOT TO YOU!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Yeah. Stupid competition. Monopolies FTW!
- FizixMan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I guess not even the Sony marketers got a PSP for Christmas. And after that touching website too.
=] - AwRy108, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The PSP is a great handheld device, especially for those of us who like our portable gaming experiences to have the depth of a console title. If Sony gets smart and decides to address the PSP's major flaws (disc access times, battery life, one analog stick, no multi-tasking, etc.), it could end up being the "must-own" all-in-one media device.
I use my PSP for many things, especially music, .mp4 video, and gaming--I really hope that Sony continues to build and expand on this great device. - Purist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Maybe a price drop is in order? Either way, I love my PSP. There are so many great games for it now. Some of my favorites: LocoRoco, MGS:PO, GTA:LCS and VCS, Killzone, MOH, FTB2, Lego SW2, Genesis Collection, SSX, Katamari, Bomberman, Live '07, Tekken.
- libertao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Doesn't the word "reveal" imply disclosing something not obvious? The only person still playing with a PSP is Dr. House.
- BobsYourUncle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I want a PSP (mostly for SOCOM, I'm a sucker for the series) but it has to come down in price. Not sure what the going rate in the US is, but in Canada it's currently $199CDN. Right before Christmas it was $229CDN. However, the games and unit cost mean I don't feel I _have_ to have the system. I'm content to keep waiting and see what happens. I want a cheaper system, but I'm not even sure what my price point is. I think it's ambivalence that's killing the system. People might want the system, but it's not must-have. I'm not pro or anti Sony, so it has nothing to do with brand, I just have no desire to overspend for the PSP. I'm intrigued by the possibility of a redesign, which will keep me from purchasing the system even longer. I want it, but I'll still wait and see.
- Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7If it was Xmas of 05, you have a point. If you meant Xmas 06, you just didn't look at all...
- xImBurningStar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I didn't really play my PSP much until the recent downgrader was released. I mean, I still liked it, and realized all of its potential. But now that I have any PSX game I want, NES, SNES, GENESIS, and n64 emulators on it, plus the features it already had I cant put it down. I really think that if Sony gave customers the option of putting PSX games they already own on their PSP without having to use Homebrew, sales would rise.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Play older console games, as well as about 98% of all Playstation 1 games.
For starters. - jacksons98, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@FieldAnonymouse It will be interesting to see what happens apparently Sony has some plans for it with the PS3 with Wifi and Remote play. I don't think Sony is giving up on PSP yet.
@Zachgc but we aren't comparing PSP to PS2 sales, we are comparing it to DS sales. PSP is at 20million and DS and 36million. For Sony's first showing with a portable I think they have done pretty well. - Schrade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Devhook is obsolete now that Dark_AleX's custom firmwares are out. The latest is 3.03 OE-C and it's like having a Firmware 1.5 and 3.03 all in one.
If you're still using Devhook and haven't tried the Dark_AleX custom firmwares, I suggest you try them out. They really kick ass. (You can always downgrade back to 1.5 if you don't like it) - monkbot1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree with what your saying, I love my PSP but I think that it hasn't lived up to it's full potential and thats due to a narrow minded view from Sony.
- staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=DS&name2=PSP&type=0
http://www.vgcharts.org/japconscomps.php?name1=PSP&name2=DS&type=2&align=0
Not as good as the DS but sales are growing. I don't think dying is an appropriate term. The Shipped less but this doesn't equate to a lower interest in the system if sales charts are correct. - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I did homebrew for a long time, until I updated to 3.03. snes, sega, and other cool stuff was fun, but I thought free demos, flash, rss, and wma support might've been worth it. It wasn't. They only come out with demos about once every month. contra and super mario were waaaaayyyy better. I might go back to hombrew now that a 3.03 downgrader is available.
Every one of my friends with a psp was very interested in homebrew, it didn't matter if they knew what usb was, or if they could compile linux, all of em' wanted homebrew. the problem was that is is so darn complicated, or was impossible at the time (for the ones who always upgraded). If sony would just open the psp up to homebrew, and maybe cut the price and come out with a new revision, I know many more people that would grab a psp. Sony can protect their games from piracy, but if they'd just open it up to 3rd party apps... they'd have thousands upon thousands of free programs and utilities available for the PSP, all developed for free to them. This would add much value to the psp, it would become a mini laptop (usb keyboard), a cell phone (skype), a radio (ip radio), a tv (iptv) and more. Sony would just have to hold up their part, and come out with quality, polished games that we would want to buy (since games are how they make their profit). Even if sony would admit momentary defeat, and open up the PSP, so many people would go out and get one, that by the PSP 2, there would be a large fan base. This is the same strategy MS had with the Xbox, take a big hit in profit, but build a large and loyal fanbase. Then, make the next Xbox and profit (as they are)!
Instead, Sony insists on shooting itself in the foot. I really am wondering if Sony will still be around in another 5 years. - hppypnts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Personally my Amazon wishlist for DS games is 3 times as long as my wish list for PSP Games.
- Hetman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ Tokastyle Im gonna disagree with you there are lots of fun games for the DS. I personally own a PSP and i like it but it does seem to have a lot of lackluster games. All in all i wish sony would have put a little more effort into the software but o well.
- aschocobo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Total PSP hardware shipments in the three quarters so far recorded for this financial year total 7.67 million units. The company is now forecasting total PSP hardware shipments of 9 million for this financial year – a huge plunge from the 14.06 million it shipped in financial year '05, and from its prediction last April of shipping 12 million units, too.
Now importantly – and confusingly – these are officially 'shipment' figures, rather than sales figures."
this is the primary difference between "shipped" vs. "sold". they are not the same, as some would like to believe. Sony counts sold to the customer as being 'sold to stores', not 'sold to the people on the other side of the register'. i have--and like--my psp. though i only have three 3 games for it. even though i use my ds lite far more often, the psp is still pretty cool. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Why the hate? I love my PSP. I watch movies on it, and play Winning Eleven 10 constantly. I'm sure the DS is a nice system, but I wanted a portable movie player and my iPod's screen isn't really big enough.
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