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- n0t0kayipr0mis3, on 10/11/2007, -25/+190"the Ps3 is not a game system"
no its not, really. its a george foreman grill. - Kenelm, on 10/11/2007, -11/+108"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."
- Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO
I'm going to be rich ! - OUPablo, on 10/11/2007, -9/+104http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/10
- djSyndrome, on 10/11/2007, -10/+75Awwww, did someone's feelings get hurt?
I've been a die-hard Sony Supporter since 1995, but these are still funny in *any* context. - Klarth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+68"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."
"You can look at the software that they sell. All their licensed kid stuff. So, what we're doing with the PlayStation Portable is really establishing a new marketplace, and establishing, frankly, a new beachhead."
"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
"Microsoft does not concern us. Microsoft is not a technology company."
The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
Sorry, but all of these are undeniably really ***** stupid with or without context. - OverThere, on 10/11/2007, -8/+62I was reading the list... somewhere near the bottom I ran across this gem:
-- "I don’t think we’re arrogant."
I stopped reading there because I was laughing so hard. - bpmdub, on 10/11/2007, -3/+55They are on my ***** list for Lik-Sang
- bben46, on 10/11/2007, -14/+66Sony is still on my ***** list and will be for a long time. Mainly for their rootkit fiasco, but also for ignoring reality and pushing their proprietary garbage.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -16/+67I went for an Xbox 360 instead of PS3 specifically because of this corporate attitude (bought it after PS3's launch), and because they think their prospective customers (like myself) are idiotic sheep. I do not want to be dependent on these ***** for my entertainment for the next 5 years and, as bad as Microsoft is, and as many gripes as I have about the Xbox 360 (overpriced DLC is a big concern), at least they treat their customers with respect.
- Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -9/+58Only in Sony Magic Fairy Fantasy World™ is the PS3 "too cheap" and the Wii "a bit pricey."
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -14/+58Klarth:
That wasn't my point, *****.
A corporation exists to make money. To do this, they must make their products as attractive as possible, make themselves seem very likable, and convince me to part with my cash in exchange for their product. Microsoft accomplished this by treating me as a gamer (which I am), offering me the kinds of games I want to play, not shoving ***** I don't want down my throat (Blu-Ray, WiFi -- I have no uses for these technologies in my present state, so why should I be forced to pay for them when I won't use them?), not talking down to me, not saying things like, "You stupid ***** will buy our console even if we have no games for it!"
You see, *****? This is how capitalism works. I give my money to someone who wins me over and offers me the better product for my needs. Sony's failure in this regard is quit simply SPECTACULAR. - Murdats, on 10/11/2007, -2/+43odd, because I distinctly remember seeing the context that the quote was given mentioned under the quotes.
and most of these, context doesnt matter.
its like saying, you took my quote out of context when quoted as saying "I have cancer" does the context mattter? not much - mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -4/+45"but it's not like anyone on Digg buys CDs anyway!"
"most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care"
...do you work for Sony? - MaynardJK, on 10/11/2007, -3/+37"I wish people would just STFU about the rootkit thing"
It is incomprehensible to me how anyone can defend Sony's actions regarding the rootkit. It would be a completely different thing if they had come out and said that they messed up with it, but they acted as if we should take it and STFU.
I have no problem with a company fighting against piracy, but I refuse to support any company that treats its PAYING customers with such contempt. You are a sheep and deserve all of the ***** that Sony will feed you.
And this is coming from someone that bought 3 ps2s and 40+ games for them. Sony can go to hell. - readme, on 10/11/2007, -17/+50Sony has yet to top this gem:
"Y'know, things break" -- Peter Moore of Microsoft when asked about the alarmingly high Xbox 360 failure rate.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/notag/moore-on-360-failure-rates-yknow-things-break-258750.php - richbleak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+30Here is some context for you folks on some of the quotes sighted in this thread:
EGM: Well, let's talk about that for a second, because, from our unscientific studies, it seemed like about 50 percent of the people in line were there to make a quick buck on eBay. And now we're seeing a lot more units on store shelves.
JT: Really?
EGM: Yeah.
JT: If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it. I can get any retail buyer on the phone with you and get them to verify that there's not a single retail location in America where there's a PlayStation 3 on the shelf for sale. They've all been sold in a matter of minutes. [Editor's note: This interview took place in early January 2007.]
EGM: But we called 18 random retailers, including Best Buy and EB Games, and half of them had PS3s in stock...some had as many as 20 in the store. So you can buy them now if you wanted.
This context changes nothing about the quote. - SnuKs, on 10/11/2007, -14/+42Where's the Massive Damage qutoe?!
- sleepwalkers, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33@ lasereth and ibeetle
Why the ***** do you feel like *you're* the one who needs to immediately go on the defensive when someone pokes fun of Sony?
Jesus Christ, it's just video games. Lighten up. - daridave, on 10/11/2007, -7/+35Who needs quotes?
For the past year, I just need to hear "SONY" and I laugh. PSP, aha. PS3, lol. Walkman. LMAO !!!!
Come on SONY, stop being cocky and get back to work. - Murdats, on 10/11/2007, -6/+32AppleTV - original xbox
Linux box - original xbox
Web browser - any digital device
Blu-Ray - ps3 or blu-ray player
DVD up-converter - havent checked, but probably original xbox
PS/2/3 console - ps3
hmm, it seems most of those features you listed can be done by a device that costs a fraction as much.
the only thing that you need a ps3 for because nothing else does it, is to play ps3 games (lol, what games) - richbleak, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28@lost
You are a liar. Read below for the timing of the article in which this quote appeared. He was talking about January of '07 and there existed plenty of proof that PS3s were available in stores. How is that internship as a company shill going? - yargthepirate, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25no. it is an implement by which giant crabs can be attacked for massive damage.
- Jimmdean, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25ibeetle must be one of the ones that doesn't know what a rootkit is...
- bobdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -9/+28“The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With the DS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, on comparing PSP to DS in an interview with MCV
This makes me laugh because the DS is kicking PSP's ass in sales.. "not fair to them that our product is of little interest the vast majority of consumers, it's like we're just giving them sales!" - nukem996, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21I am currently doing research with the IBM Cell Processor. Instead of buying an expensive Cell machine we decided to start small with a PS3. As soon as it comes in I hook it up with an HDMI to DVI converter to an LCD monitor we had laying around. I just see a black screen. So I tried a few monitors and start thinking the PS3 is broken. I started to google around and then realized the PS3 has HDCP(DRM for video signals). I'm disappointed and thus have to buy a new HDCP compliant monitor. We get the monitor in and I install GNU/Linux. We also get in a second PS3 and a KVM switch. I plug the HDCP monitor to the KVM and to the PS3. I get the same black screen. The KVM loses the HDCP signal and thus I can't use it. What really frustrates me is that Sony is using HDCP to "protect" my Linux desktop and thus nothing works with it. I brought home the second PS3 for the same to use with my "new" Dell 2405FPW and guess what no HDCP so it doesn't work. Its ***** like this that really pisses me off about Sony. Why does a game need its video signal "protected"? When was the last time someone downloaded a video of someone playing a game and thought "hey that was a great game good thing I pirated a video of someone playing it now I don't have to buy it?"
- mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Henvy, you don't think it's hypocritical that Sony instead infects the computers of people who do BUY their albums?
And speak for yourself, I own over 450 physical cds. - Raian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Laserth:
The context for many of these quotes is self-evident, which is Sony's place in the game industry. The quotes aren't misconstrued or misrepresentative-- they are exactly what was said.
Stop lying, and stop pushing your ridiculous agenda.
And for your edification: Context |ˌkɒntɛkst|
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed. - InsaneGeek, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20@readme
You kind of dropped the whole context of his statement, let me post it for you:
I can't comment on failure rates, because it's just not something - it's a moving target. What this consumer should worry about is the way that we've treated him. Y'know, things break, and if we've treated him well and fixed his problem, that's something that we're focused on right now. I'm not going to comment on individual failure rates because I'm shipping in 36 countries and it's a complex business.
In that context, than in my opinion it's a pretty good statement by Microsoft, that "treating the consumer well and fixing his problem" is what they are concerned about tells me that they have an interest in keeping the consumer happy not just shipping units to post numbers. It shows me that they have an interest in the customer experience after the sale to get another future sale, rather than just a one-time sale, so I shouldn't be as worried about the company giving the big F-you 91 days after I bought it and something broke. - woogley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17@NiGHTS
"Sony is putting in features so you don't have to concern yourself with choices later on"
that's exactly why I avoid Sony. so I CAN concern myself with making my own choices. - dheaddy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19I was surprised to see the most infamous quote was missing:
"Genji 2 has famous battles which actually took place in Ancient Japan...so here's this giant enemy crab..and you attack its weak point for massive damage!!"
Bill Ritch E3 2006 - enforcerpsu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14The quotes are funny, in a "wow, weren't we arrogant and got our asses handed to us?" kind of way. I don't care if you are a Sony fanboy or not, Sony said some pretty ridiculous stuff and now they are paying for it. You can at least admit that.
- Konstantino, on 10/11/2007, -5/+18"Microsoft does not concern us. Microsoft is not a technology company."
...I love irony. (Or is this just stupidity?) - AnotherThought, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."
- Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO
ahh only if Jack keeps his words I could have made 12k by the nearest wally world - Jimmdean, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17Some of you must have really short memories - there is no context that makes these quotes seem any better. Sony is
responsible for most of the biggest bulls**t statements this century. Your thoughts on the PS3/PSP aside,
any respectable gamer would admit Sony Corporate is full of crap. - CWal37, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12@Elranzer
I think she's just pissed that a new NiGHTS game was announced solely for Wii. - Murdats, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11@HenvY
it was said before, but I shall repeat it
Do you work for sony?
you seem to share their attitude that everyone is a criminal and should be treated as such - richbleak, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Yes, before each of these quotes appeared the statement "the following statement is just a joke and obviously shouldn't be taken seriously". I can't believe how wrong we have gotten this.
I don't understand how people can't separate their hardware and software preferences from the personalities that run the front office. Even people who enjoy Sony hardware should be able to identify at least some of these quotes as hilarious and outrageous. So much for intellectual honesty. - Baku, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14"Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability"
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios speaking with MTV news.
I bet all you could hear in the Sony building when he said this was the slap of every employees collective hands hitting their foreheads. - richbleak, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11And how will you approach line-up after the initial launch frenzy has died down?
David Reeves: We have built up a certain brand equity over time since the launch of PlayStation in 1995 and PS2 in 2000. The first five million are going to buy it, whatever it is, even it didn't have games.
The question is what about the next five million? That's when our marketing really has to kick in. It means we have to enhance our brand attitude and our personality as we have done before with all the other PlayStation iterations, including PlayStation Portable. We have to make sure that the really big titles start to come out at that point.
The context provided by the nature of the question actually makes this quote more ridiculous. - aurorous, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14I remember when he made that quote, no it wasn't taken out of context he really did say that. Some boards were full of people screaming "OMG I'M GONNA MAKE $5000!!"
You can scream about context all you want but a lot of those reflect exactly what they were trying to say - djSyndrome, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14One Red Ring to Rule Them All?
- SilentJay74, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Sony needs new leadership. That is all there is to it. They put out bad laptop batteries that were catching on fire. The PS3 is a worse failure than our president. Every quote in this article made thier leadership look absolutly stupid. With leadership in a company like that, no wonder they have fallen on hard times.
- kravex, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14@NIGHTSChao
If BR loses, then how did Sony do me a favor overpricing the PS3 with a BR drive? - Uranium118, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14"RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!"
- mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -18/+27"It’s probably too cheap…"
– Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the $499 to $599 price point
You can hate Sony and the PS3 all you want, but you have to admit for $600 you get your moneys worth (hardware wise). It's an AppleTV, Linux box, Web browser, Blu-Ray, DVD up-converter, PS/2/3 console. Overall Sony says some pretty ***** stupid *****, they remind me of Best Buy employees. - snapcase, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10This one just amazed me:
"…for consumers to think to themselves ‘I will work more hours to buy one’. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."
– Ken Kutaragi, explaining their marketing goals for the PS3
That's just pathetic. I, for one, will not buy a PS3 until the prices come down significantly. I'd rather take the money they want me to spend on a PS3 and go buy another computer. And if the prices don't drop, then I guess I'll never own one. I've always been a fan of the Playstation platforms, so it's a shame they decided to build a machine that's so expensive. (especially since as noted in one of the quotes they basically made the machine way more beefy than it really needed to be.) - SocialPoison, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14@NiGHTSChao
Fallen didn't mention the Wii once... yet you lashed out. Jealous much? And of course the Wii has games worth playing... the new Zelda tops that list. What PS3 games are out there that are exclusives that you simply must play? And you can talk about what's coming up for PS3... but if the current trend continues there's going to be trouble for Sony.
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/03/19/devil-may-cry-4-no-longer-a-ps3-exclusive/
How'd they manage to lose DMC4? If they lose MGS4 then forget it. Nail in the coffin. You might as well save yourself some dough and get a 360. That way you can get Halo 3 and Crackdown as well.
Bottom line is the PS3 has flopped badly.
The 360 did poorly on its launch, but was able to pick up steam (partly because of a lack of competition for a year).
The Wii is still selling like hotcakes.
PS3's on the other hand are sitting on shelves collecting dust.
And I'm not just fanboying it up here... seriously... next time you're in gamestop look around. PS3s on the shelf... and if you ask for a Wii the clerk is going to laugh at you.
*shrug* - Tsukari, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11I think the quotes from people trying to make Sony not look totally incompetent here are even funnier then Sony's quotes.
As a person who admittedly followed the console race to launch a little closer then may be considered sane (especially the DS-PSP launch) I can tell you that those quotes were actually quite a bit more absurd if you consider there context.
The only one that is hurt by its lack of context is this:
“The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With the DS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, on comparing PSP to DS in an interview with MCV
To be fair this was said before Nintendogs/brain age had launched which is really when the DS came into its own. This was actually pretty much common sentiment amoung the forums in regards to the DS at the time. Thats when the PSP was still charging foward with its excellent launch momentum. - Tsukari, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Obviously not!
Video games are serious business mister!!! Everyone who holds an opinion different then your's is clearly a fanboy! - Hetman, on 10/11/2007, -8/+15I agree mywhitenoise unfortunatly it does not have the software right now to back up all that hardware.
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