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- greenreefer, on 10/12/2007, -12/+53There goes the savings over the online service.
Sure is pretty though,
Got to make some serious heat? - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29@picturesnstuff
"Kinda funny that it's seen as 'something that people somewhere else are trying to do'."
But it's true. Hardly any Americans I know give a rats ass about conserving electricity. Hell I leave my tesla coils and flux capacitor running all night for no reason half the time. - Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34Although this wouldn't exactly surprise me if true, I can see no source linked from the article, no press release on the Sony website and no update to their system specs page. Without that, this is just a new blog with three pages of content posting a rumor.
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27i think they might have been misguided by reading somewhere that there was a 380 watt power supply, but that doesn't mean it draws a constant 380 watts of power...
- aegis9975, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25360 PSU is 100-127V ~5A,
PS3 is 100-127 ~3A
http://content.imagesocket.com/thumbs/PS3powerbb5.png
Looks like they just did a straight calculation of the Voltage and Current(127x3=381), this means that the PS3 has 380W power supply by those calculations, it does not mean that it will always take a constant 380W of energy when running, its just the rating on the power supply. In the real-world power consumption between the 360 and PS3 should be similar, and Wii should be much lower. - pixelate, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28"till now"... you mean, "to date"
Space Heater B3yond - Fitzavig, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28Wait, so now the PS3 can work as a bed heater? I'm sold! Now I can cook burgers and keep in the warm safety of my bed at the same time.
In all seriousness though, this is a bad trend to go down. I may be mistaken, but isn't Europe trying to keep power consumption within reason? Maybe Sony is delaying the PS3 there also because of it's insane power consumption. I mean, that's a lot of money/power being used for a simple luxury. - coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19My uncle used to give power hugs to all of the children.
He's in jail now. - ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I just read up on it a little more and it is important to take into consideration that the PS3 will consume 380w at it's peak performance. This means that the system would have to be running every application it can handle. The PS3 will in no way consume that much power if the owner is simply booting up the PS3 or scrolling through the OS. In other words, it is doubtable the PS3 will be running at 380w constantly.
- G_Raph, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27if you are going to brag about sony's free online service then $80 a year in power consumption is a big deal when a live subscription is less than $50 a year.
- DragonQuester, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Oh well who's counting. Most gamers parents pay their electric bill anyway. :)
- fadetoone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13You should also consider that the 380 watt is peak power. I doubt it's going to be running that hot all the time.
- PFS1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20G Raph...if you are going to latch on what some unknown blogger says about it costing $80 a year, you may want to check that blogger's facts and calculations to make sure the unknown blogger is correct. In this case, the unknown blogger is incorrect unless you live in a city where electricity is REALLY expensive.
I actally OVERestimated what it would be for my area. It turns out it would be about $50 a year in my area. And that is for an unrealistic (to most people) 4 hours a day EVERY damn day for a year.
Not to mention., the cost of running the other systems is not free. So for them, you have o pay BOTH the electric cost, and the online fee. - FrankieB078, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Amazing how positive comments get dugg down.
- Toloran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@carapi
Try looking up the word "Average." Over a three day period of time I might play 2 hours on one day, zero on the third, and 7 on the fourth. The average would 3 hours which is completely different then "EVER SINGLE DAY FOR A YEAR." - 5thfreedom, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Actually, this is not less than most PCs. The Dell XPS 410 (their 2nd highest end PC) only has a 375 Watt PSU, which means that the computer actually uses less than that much. Sure, that is only one example, but I believe that it is a fair representation of the market. I am sure that most PCs use less than 300 Watts of power. Not everybody has 8 hard drives and 4 graphics cards you know...
- jonrad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10For anyone who wants to calculate the price for themselves, this would come out to be about 550 KWH/year. Which for my area is somewhere around $50/year.
Oh, and I also wanted to note that, 4 hours a day isn't completely unreasonable considering Sony wants you to use the PS3 for all your entertainment needs. Playing movies, video games, music, etc. - 5thfreedom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Just having a 500 Watt PSU doesn't mean that you are actually using that much power.
- FrankieB078, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Ok I know Wii/360 fans will digg me down but...
$80 a year / 12 months = $6 extra on your bill every month...at 4 hours a day, 7 days a week (I will assume).
Big deal. I'll deal with it. - trogdor282, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Definitely. All the hands-on reports are that the PS3 is cool and quiet, which means it can't possibly draw that much on average. The 360 draws half that and it sounds like a mini hair dryer. Buried as inaccurate.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7NSMIKE, I consider myself a hardcore gamer, and on occasion I play the hell out of my PS2 (whenever a good RPG comes out, I'm usually on it 7 hours a day for a week or more), but as soon as I beat that game the system gets major downtime. I think if I added up all of the time that I'm on my PS2 in a year it'd be less than 4 hours a day by far.
- tharju, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5let's just argue base on the online blog with no factual backup. Shall we?
- procdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5hooray for power hugs :/ i notice way too many typos in online articles.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Those nunchucks should generate power based on users movements. Just like those casio watches.
- bjkrautk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's a non-issue for me, but I guess I'll ask anyway:
Is the $ 80 figure the /additional/ cost of running a PS3 (instead of a 360), or the /total/ cost on the bill (ie. $80 for the PS3 v. $40 for XBox 360 @ 4 hrs. / day)? - thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"if you are going to brag about sony's free online service then $80 a year in power consumption is a big deal when a live subscription is less than $50 a year."
That's irrelevant, you still have to pay for the 360's electricity on top off the XBOX Live account. Bad rationalization there. - Gustomucho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Sorry, I tried to edit not to sound rude, but I couldn't save my edit.
I am a rude Frenchmen. :( - thebeaz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah. If you can afford the $500-600 machine, you can afford $6/mo to your power bill. Gaming PCs still easily burn up this much power anyway. 350+ watt power supplies have been the norm for a while now.
- Loonacy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I was reading through the article trying to find what had supplanted the PS3 as "biggest power hog." Silly me to not realize the submitter had messed up the title.
Not to mention the article calls it a "power hug." - tobsterius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yeah, I guess. Wait, what? Some how I think this is totally irrelevant...
- jacenat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5the 380W are peak power ... sure it's much, but you aren't complaining about peak powers in the 550W range for some high-end pc's either, do you?
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Playing online on the 360 will add an extra $50 to your yearly gaming bil.....
- Atom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4$80 in what state? If its $80 in a state with a stable power grid, I cant imagine how much more it will add to my bill in CA. Weve been getting screwed by CA Edison for the past 4-5 years.
- TheBarge, on 10/12/2007, -15/+18That's right, now Sony's PS3 is helping to contribute to global warming by requiring much higher power consumption which means more coal burning which results in more pollution. Damn you Sony!
- acurism, on 10/12/2007, -25/+28Man, people will find any way they can to bash the PS3...
This is actually less than most pc's out there. This is pretty lame to complain about. - AmazingAndrex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Not to mention., the cost of running the other systems is not free. So for them, you have o pay BOTH the electric cost, and the online fee."
GameCube was the most power efficient system including all current *and* previous systems, which bodes well for Wii. Nintendo WiFi Connection is also free, so I don't understand where you get the "system'S'" and "them" from. - paku, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The Wii only consumes 10W of power and doesn't hate babies. The controller can also please your wife/girlfriend.
Can you not ask for less? - RandoFernando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Average Retail Price of Electricity to Ultimate Customers by End-Use Sector, by State
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table5_6_b.html - DeepFreezed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2this is sad.
who ever think this thing will not overheat is living in lala land.
$80? how sad is that? - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not true.
I looked up the PS3 power rating. It's 3.2A at 120V. That's 384W. That's a lot, right?
The 360 power supply brick is 5A at 120V. That's 600W.
I got the 5A rating of the 360 from Wikipedia (shame on me):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360
I also looked at my 360 power supply.
And the 3.2A rating of the PS3 from the FCC database:
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=704262&native_or_pdf=pdf
So, going from input power to input power (all that is possible since the PS3 PS is internal), the PS3 uses 2/3rds the power of the 360, not double. Xbox 360 is this "biggest power hog until now" (weird wording taken from the Digg headline).
Marked as inaccurate. - fivestarsoul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have a 500 something watt PSU on my computer and I leave it on 24/7. The PS3 is on a mission to compete with your computer. So, the way I look at it, if I have my PS3 on and my computer off, I'm actually saving money.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Terrible, an extra 80 dollars a year! A whopping 22 cents per day!
If you have the thousands to shell out on a PS3 and a game then I'm sure 80 dollars a year won't tear you up inside. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3not to mention that the XBOX 360 runs using solar Panels.
- scootinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sounds a tad bit far fetched to me....
Almost all PCs don't even have power supplies that support 300W of power. Even many mid-range gaming machines probably don't even use that much. Now we're talking about a game system that had a lot of time/money put into its design. Wouldn't they find a way to curb its power usage a bit?
The really big thing is how they would be able to pack a device that uses 380W of power into such a small box. You'd have to find a way to fit a power supply that would supply such wattage (I doubt they could use power "bricks" easily for such a big amount of wattage.) Also they would need to figure out how to cool whatever is using all of that power (CPUs/GPUs.) - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wait, does the PS3 actually CONSUME 380W while running, or does it just have a 380W powersupply?
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@carapi
For one, I don't need the personal insults.
Two, I was talking about averages. You get a gamer who is devoted enough to gaming and he WILL do that kind of average.
Three, I have a job, as a matter of fact, and my work day averages (there's that pesky word again) eleven hours, including commute time, every business day. I'm not a hardcore gamer NOW, but I used to be. Now, I'm a tech writer, and that's where the majority of my responsibility lies. I get, MAYBE close to 6 hours each night to myself after work, and that's only if I'm staying up late that night. That's the price of a white-collar, non-union, salary position.
...I hope I was able to educate you on the dynamics of being able to provide an alternative viewpoint, and why everything isn't black and white. Maybe you'll even take something from it. - TheMrEman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Interesting...you'd pay the absolute least for this extra power if you were playing your PS3 at Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Washington: only 6.69 cents/Kw Hr
- Disjunto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2do we not mention the usage of most PC gamers PC's, naa better stay away from that :P
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pseudo - The power supply is inside - there is no brick.
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