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- alphgeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37I have no problem with sex in videogames...but...
I can have sex in - get this - REAL LIFE. It's often nearly as good or even BETTER than the computer version...
But it isn't often that I get to go on a gun-toting kill fest, or scream a car through a city crowded with pedestrians in real life...problems with the authorities and all that... - concreteclam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34Why don't you try playing GTA without shooting people? I have a lot of fun just zooming around the towns, looking for hidden areas or vehicles.
- pilot3033, on 10/12/2007, -10/+39Interesting article. Personally, I would rather have sex than violence. We really need to get over it here in the States.
- reidypeidy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33raise your hand if you clicked on this expecting to see pictures but were disappointed.
- cyrix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25"Totally agree. I think GTA is fun, but definitely not one of the best, or even most groundbreaking games of all time."
The gaming industry would beg to differ. The GTA series has recieved praise on a constant basis for it's fairly open ended gameply. I mean the scale of San Andreas alone was absurdly massive. Name another game that gives you the ability to control one character over such a huge open world with the freedom to do whatever you want.
"It is a cool urban driving simulator but the killing in that game offers no real challange at all for any hardcore fps folk."
The same could be said about how FPS's don't give people who play GTA a real challenge. But saying such a thing would be pointless because you're comparing apples to oranges. Totally pointless.
The main reason GTA get's so much praise is the variety in the things you can do. While this wasn't as prevalent in Vice City or GTAIII, in San Andreas it is definetely there. The amount of things that you can do is nearly absurd. I can easily kill quite a few hours just randomly running around the HUGE map doing all sorts of things. I can take a bike and go see what interesting spots I can find to do some stunts. I can go gamble at quite a few different establishments that offer various games. I can go base jumping. I can try out my skill in a demolition derby, or take a race car for a spin on a figure 8 track, and that's still barely scratching the surface of the various options available to me. My personal favorite thing to do is recruit some gang members and see what ways I can kill them, such as having them follow me off of a bridge while snapping off a few pictures of them falling :p
Trying to say that GTA is all about "just killing people" is a horrible generalization. Your experience in the GTA world is what you make of it. If you are "just killing people" then that's because that's about as creative as you're going to get. There are others out there that can find an infinite number of more unique things to do. - ricodued, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Nah. Sex in video games should probably be held off on until graphics get better.
I'm not even joking. Remember how hot Hot Coffee looked? Painful. Yeah, yeah, crytek unreal blah blah blah. Generation after the next generation (Unreal 3, Crytek 2, etc.) I'll be comfortable with sex in video games. Until then it would just look dumb.
Agreed, however, that people in the US need to get over violence and sex in video games. It's acceptable in movies and TV, but not video games? Why, because it's interactive? Pshaw. - SuperSloth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20ricodued: "It's acceptable in movies and TV, but not video games? Why, because it's interactive? Pshaw."
No, it's because the generation in power right now didn't grow up playing video games. The still think they're all for kids, and since they don't play them at all, they can censor the ***** out of them and it doesn't affect *their* freedoms at all.
Make no mistake, this exact same thing has a happened before. It's the exact same arguments and exact same legislation they tried to use against movies in the 30's-60's (eventually leading to MPAA ratings in the late 60's), against comic books in the 50's-60's (comic book association), and against music in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's (against rock-n'-roll, and more recently against rap which led to content warnings). They've also tried the same things against the pornography industry since it's inception.
Moral laws are not about protecting the children. They're about protecting the **grandchildren**. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19funny thing i was thinking about. when stuff goes from america to europe, they edit out the violence. and when it goes from europe to america, they edit out the sex.
- robusteza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15well, 25, but i just figured i was probably the only one who could say this without sounding like a total creepy perv seeing as how i'm, you know, a chick
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15There is sex in the M rated game my 13 year old son is playing? Gosh, I'm a good parent, I should go complain to game makers because:
1.I gave him the money to buy an M rated game and the store actually sold it to him.
2.I bought the M rated game for him.
3.I don't give a Feck what my children play.
Then after I complain to the game makers, I will run for mother of the year... - Snorkeldick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I just want to know when we'll be able to infect in-game characters with AIDS.
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15"I thought it was boring and offered nothing to gaming other than shooting people."
"I think GTA is fun, but definitely not one of the best, or even most groundbreaking games of all time. A lot of the praise that GTA gets can be attributed to its shock factor."
What? Many games allow you to kill and maim to your hearts content, but GTA get its praise from letting you roam free and do just about anything you want. This has been attraction to GTA since the first one. Once you get past the shock facter, there has to be a solid game to back it up and that is why it's been so popular. - mamchenkov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11So, are you saying that even sex is about killing people? :)
- nugget, on 10/12/2007, -83/+93I hated the GTA series. I thought it was boring and offered nothing to gaming other than shooting people. Not very fun if you ask me. I know I will get modded down for this comment too...
- slackor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I agree it would be nice to see a pair of ***** in Oblivion once in awhile, but sex in games usually translates into really poor gameplay.Click as fast as you can to raise an orgasm-meter! yay! There's a reason there's so many violent video games, guns fit nicely with gameplay.
- robusteza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Back in my day, we had to set our age to be 99 to get some luscious Kasumi jiggle...damn kids these days don't have to work for nothin'.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17For the evangelical nutjobs that bitch about this stuff, killing people is OK, but sex is sin.
- xodex, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11back in your day? that easter egg was only a few years ago :)
I'm 20. How old are you lol :) - SuperSloth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9If you want a game that's a railroad and the same thing every time you play it, go ahead. I likes me some sandbox games.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+20Totally agree. I think GTA is fun, but definitely not one of the best, or even most groundbreaking games of all time. A lot of the praise that GTA gets can be attributed to its shock factor.
It all kind of reminds me of Mortal Kombat II. A lot of people at the time would claim it was on par with SFII, it was one of the best games of all time, yadda yadda. What people were really interested in was the violence, which, at that level, was pretty novel back then. Now looking back it all seems pretty silly-- like GTA, MK was good but nothing revolutionary. - Trjn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That's because kids aren't mature enough to deal with life and must be heavily sheltered so as not to get scarred for life from . . . life?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This in awfully long-winded article that, when you get all the way through it, you realize: It didn't really say anything.
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More sex in video games, please. Teh end. - SoulMaster2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I don't get the rating system at all, if someone made a video game perfectly simlulating the world as we know it to every last detail, where you could do anything at all, it would be rated adults only
- Cybert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well as a eunuch I'm fine with video games as they are.
- Al.x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You americans' got it all wrong: Sex is constructive, it creates people. Violence is destructive, it hurts or kill people. I'm not saying that PORN is constructive, positive or an expression of love, but sex should be. Violence is an expression of hate. What should we be afraid of?
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11A-Friggen-Men (cawf :)
People are so caught up in religious ferver that they lose sight of the fact that violence is far more damaging to society than sex is. They happily take their kids to the latest wrassle-a-thon where people are beating the crap out of eachother with chairs, barbed wire, and stuff and bleeding all over the place, but "OH NO, THEY SHOWED A BREAST" and everyone freaks out.
The US is so totally screwed up, and with Harper at the helm (at least partially), they're trying to steer Canada in that direction too...
Newsflash for you folks, Religion ain't gonna solve your problems... - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I just don't understand that you can put fountains of blood into a game, but if people see a nipple, all hell breaks loose.
Nudity and sex are part of life, even moreso than graphic violence. From time to time, people do take off their clothes, and we should be able to see such things in our Mature and Adults Only rated games. I'm not talking about hard core porn in games, but a little sex here and there can further a story sometimes.
Videogames are still getting out from under the umbrella of "kids stuff" and it'll be a few more years untill it really begins to turn around. - PeterMeh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This reminds a little of the general media "over-excitement" about pornography on the internet and that teens have to be "protected" or "restricted" from accessing porn sites...
The implication is that most teens are sex-crazed and hunting high and low on the internet looking for porn. I don't think they are. I think most are more interested in GTA or WoW, both of which could be said to encourage or at least condone agression. (I'm not against either really, it's a free society, and people should be able to play whatever game they choose). Seeing a pair of bareboobs isn't going to scar any kid for life - they can just go to plenty of Aussie beaches and see the same if they really needed to.
Spend less time labelling the kids as porno freaks, and spend more time chasing the ones that chase them in chat rooms etc
/rant - pronouncable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just as ridiculous as when I walked into a store yesterday and was able to buy Ghost Recon, where you shoot a whole bunch of dudes in the face, because it was rated T. And at the same time wasn't able to buy DOA4, where noone dies and there's no blood, because it was rated M. Damn boobs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Click as fast as you can to raise an orgasm-meter!"
Click no more. Welcome to the Revolution. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I agree. But I'm not sure that's what's being said here. I think it's more about the fact that sex is removed or excluded where it DOES belong. Putting sex in a video game for no reason other than having sex in it is as stupid as anything else that doesn't belong in a story. But leaving it out so it'll sell at wal-mart is unfortunate.
- forgottenred, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Why do video games need sex again? Last time I checked we are all just a click away from porn. In movies and television sex is usually a cop-out used by bad writers and producers to somehow gain viewership. In video games so far it has been the same. Give me a story and good gameplay and there is really no need for sex. Let's get real here, sex isn't going to make a game better.
- Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5==========
I can have sex in - get this - REAL LIFE. It's often nearly as good or even BETTER than the computer version...
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So I have heard
Will I be able to wave my "Revolution controller" at virtual Nintendo Babettes? I hear it is also true that people engaged in RL sex (real life) become less addicted to the crypto orgasms of video violence?
Just off for my hourly cold shower. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10gotta love multiplayer though
the only good thing on PSP GTA - EdShroomhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sure there was sex in games in the early days of videogaming. The 2600 had "Custer's Revenge," for example. And as I mentioned in another post, Cinemaware brought PG-rated sex to videgames with "Defender of the Crown" and other games.
If you'd like to see screenshots of Custer's Revenge, go to: http://www.ataritimes.com/2600/features/custer.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Digg++ for women on the internet that know of such things!
- loup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The United States was founded mostly by puritans, and is still greatly populated by people with puritan beliefs. This tends to lead to a lot of people with puritan views being elected into positions of power, and they all think they know better than everyone else what they should and should not be exposed to.
- lmlloyd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"Name another game that gives you the ability to control one character over such a huge open world with the freedom to do whatever you want."
How about any game made by Bethesda? Daggerfall predates the first GTA by a couple of years, and was praised heavily for its massive world, and open-ended game play.
If you don't like that, how about ANY MMO, which are designed specifically around open-ended game play, and Ultima Online came out the same year as the first GTA.
The whole "what makes it revolutionary is the open-ended game play," is just a cheap and historically inaccurate excuse people use to try and justify their guilty pleasure in running around pointlessly blowing stuff up just for the fun of it. The GTA series was hardly the first, nor the best series to use open-ended game play. It is just the crassest. As has been said before, no one ever went broke underestimating the tastes of the American public. - anagami, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4USA is sexually repressed and have a double moral. lame
(I predict at least 50 negative diggs) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It's because the puritans are in control in the U.S. at the moment.
- kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Face it, it's time for America to grow up about sex in general. Sex in videogames is just a side effect of a much larger sickness.
In films, you can skull-crush. But skull sex is strictly off-limits.
Sex is so very precious here. But it's less about religion (this coming from an atheist)
and more about social power struggles between the sexes. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Um.
Yes. - serra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good lawd, azbaja, could you put that in English please? :P If you don't have a girl, it's because of communication problems. I'm just playing with you, I understand your point, no matter how skewed it appears. :)
As for the people modding my original comment down, I must say "Awwww." for you. - PeterMeh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Let's be more precise here... sex isn't going to make a "computer" game better...
It can sure make traditional games a lot more interesting (smile) - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4While I'm all for telling all kinds of stories, even those that include violence, I have to point out that it's immature to call interest in the inclusion of sexuality immature.
Interest in ultra-violence appears to be a more immature obsession.
Interest in sexuality IS mature and should remain so. Sexuality should remain an interest throughout life. Violence should almost never be a part of the average person's life. The exception being the military and police forces. A realistic, mature story should naturally have some sexual elements. So if you want more realistic, mature games, sexuality will eventually be an aspect. But as a focus, it will be little more than titillation.
The inclusion of sexuality or nudity in a game is immature? Not even close. Unless sexuality is still something you share with your buddies while you giggle in front of a scrambled signal on a TV screen at 3am. - LavosPhoenix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Sex is only dirty when the people doing it are.
- Genthree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3But how are we supposed to wank off if we're busy trying to pleasure jenny before the time limit is up? These might be the first cut scenes I don't click through as fast as I can.
This is an outrage and completely destroys the best part about porn, not having to worry about pleasing anyone else in the process. ;-) - mercuryswitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Or free demo downloads.
- prammy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well said.
I wish one of these cases would go to court and the judge asks the parents "Exactly why did you buy your 13 year old an R-Rated game?" -
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