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- kev0476, on 03/27/2009, -0/+19It is hard here in the Utah legislature to find common sense.
One bill that I was fighting hard against was SB 16, which allows police to disperse people who were loitering if they appeared to be participating in "gang activity". If the people who were told to go away came back or did not leave, they can be arrested. It passed.
This is what one of the most conservative states puts out. The Democrats here would be considered moderates on the national circuit and the Republicans are insane. I remember one Representative endorsing vigilante violence as a reason that we didn't need a protection system for dating violence similar to the system for domestic violence. (That bill trying to protect dating violence victims failed last year).
Governor Huntsman is the only person holding some of the storm back. - stoanhart, on 03/26/2009, -1/+15"If they desire, however, both the state house and senate can override the governor's veto and force the bill into law with a two-thirds majority revote. Both the house and senate approved the bill by more than two-thirds majority the first time. "
Well, I was kind of happy there for a second. - SRSco, on 03/27/2009, -1/+11I'm a fan of Huntsman even though I've never voted for him. He reminds me of Governor Mitt Romney before he became Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney and took a hard right turn.
- Netrilix, on 03/27/2009, -0/+9The laws regarding who can buy the games aren't the problem. For the most part, parents are buying these games for their children without knowing what they're buying. The 16 year-old walking into Best Buy to pick up a copy of Counter-Strike is not the problem. The mother who picks up a copy of GTA4 for her five year-old son because "all the other kids have it" is the problem. There's no easy solution to this (especially not limiting who can buy games). The most effective direction would probably be education aimed at parents, but the simple fact is that too many parents just plain do not care.
- plzhateme, on 03/27/2009, -0/+8Huntsman and his father are right on the money. The current senators and representives from Utah are nothing more than career politicians.
- samsmartjr, on 03/27/2009, -0/+7Although I play video games, I rather like video game ratings. I think that parents should be able to know if the video games they're buying for their kids contain too much violence or sex. I also think that a good ratings system will actually help video games for mature audiences. However, I don't think a flawed law about the subject should be passed. Hopefully the Utah legislature will pass an appropriate law on this matter.
- funkyloki, on 03/26/2009, -0/+6But there is still hope, as the courts would have the power to deem the "law" unconstitutional.
- SaladCactusKing, on 03/27/2009, -0/+6Move to Saudi Arabia. There are very few violent games there.
- ravage86, on 03/27/2009, -1/+7That sounds like a perfectly reasonable law...
- paulvq, on 03/27/2009, -0/+6I don't see why people even try passing dumb laws like this. There have been court rulings after court rulings protecting games against legislation like this.
Here's a PDF of the court ruling in the case of the Entertainment Software Association v. Blagojevich:
http://www.mediacoalition.org/legal/esa%20blagojev ... - SethEllis, on 03/27/2009, -1/+6Huntsman is one of the best things the Republican party has right now.
- barktwiggs, on 03/27/2009, -0/+4Let me guess, you also like to read books and play video games while you drive. I feel much safer with you and your undivided attention on the road.
- aphexcoil, on 03/27/2009, -1/+4USHORT
- Glynth, on 03/31/2009, -0/+3I've never heard anyone in Utah call a moderate Democrat a Communist. You sound like you've been on Digg too long if you buy that.
- Squeeself, on 03/27/2009, -0/+3You should see the representatives raving right now...They're talking about how he's "out of touch" and way too liberal.
- plzhateme, on 03/27/2009, -1/+4people here are generally good people, but just have lived too sheltered of lives. I imagine it would be the same if I lived in Vermont, San Fran, Oregon, ect. I'm a moderate conservative, but I would be viewed as an uneducated republican religious zelot or bigot.
- Glynth, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3Bigot.
- KrazyMon2, on 03/27/2009, -0/+2I don't understand sometimes how the people who make these bills don't see the loopholes in them. Also how do they continue to get elected??
- bluewred, on 03/27/2009, -0/+2This was one of those bills where the Representatives and State Senators didn't read it and just listened to political friends, so they voted for it ... I've talked to a few that did vote for it and they admitted they didn't really know what the bill was doing. Plus the public support for killing this bill is overwhelming!!!! It might be hard to get a 2/3. Lets keep those fingers crossed.
- hawkspur, on 03/27/2009, -0/+2He's getting buried for being an anti-video game retard.
- Squeeself, on 03/27/2009, -1/+3No, the Democrats here in Utah would be Republicans elsewhere...I'd be a moderate Democrat elsewhere, but here I'm so far left I'm obviously a communist...
- Netrilix, on 03/27/2009, -0/+2Well, it's always possible that people would be swayed by the governor's veto. At the very least, it'll make them take a second look at it.
- inactive, on 03/27/2009, -1/+2They decided not to double the bribe..
- Rikkochet, on 03/27/2009, -1/+2So are you getting buried for having a contrary opinion or for actually busting out a "not" joke?
- Squeeself, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1The problem is, and no one seems to point it out to most of these states passing these bills, is that Thompson is behind every one of them. While everyone on the net knows he's a quack, most state legislators seems to be very out of touch with the internet....
- judahhertz, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1Nice, a politician with some common sense.
- Salginon, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1The states keep saying YES!, and the courts keep saying NO! One day maybe they will get the message.
- Squeeself, on 03/27/2009, -1/+2I'm not a Republican, but I definitely have quite a bit of respect for the guy. It's fairly obvious he's doing some political maneuvering for a possible presidential run, but even despite that, he's not fallen into the swing of kowtowing to the party line and flopping his stances. At least yet.
- Logrusmage, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1Huntsman 2012?
- ThantiK, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1For those of you who don't actively follow this kind of thing, this is the legislation introduced by religious nutjob Jack Thompson. The same nutjob that claims that GTA and Counterstrike cause school shootings and other gang related activity.
<a class="user" href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/89178-Ja ... rel="nofollow">http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/89178-Ja ...</a>
(I have no affiliation with above link, it was just the first one in google when I searched "Jack Thompson Introduces")
That is probably one of the large reasons it was rejected. - ThantiK, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1Sorry - Digg has been mangling a lot of things lately, I did however provide how to get to the link via comment.
Also the double-posts your seeing lately is due to digg mangling things as well. It will say the post hasn't been posted, to try again - but you do it again and later it shows up as double. Sounds like things have gone to hell in a handbasket over there at digg. - peanut1972, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1Common sense or populist?
I find it interesting whenever a state passes a law that tries to enforce the ESRB ratings the judges throw them out because the ESRB is not a state agency. Yet the video game industry tells us its okay to have games like that because of the ESRB ratings. Since they are not legally required to enforce the ratings, the ratings themselves are a joke. - TheBadWolf, on 03/30/2009, -0/+1http://governor.utah.gov/goca/form_comment.html
- TheBadWolf, on 03/30/2009, -0/+1I'm not sure where this ends, though. Will my theoretical 14-year-old son not be allowed to buy a copy of Harry Potter due to scenes of intense peril, violence, and partial nudity? Or will my 16-year-old daughter not be able to purchase a newspaper because it's rated 17+ for adult themes? When you start censoring and limiting media, where do you draw that line?
- TheBadWolf, on 03/30/2009, -0/+1I've been saying for a year now that Huntsman is one of the best governors we've had. He understands that he's the governor of the non-Mormons as well as the Mormons.
- korvan504521, on 03/27/2009, -0/+1Anyone have his email address so we can say thanks?
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1They create these bills, knowing full well that they'll be struck down on Constitutional grounds, so they can drum up campaign donations from their base. Yeah, it's that simple...and that pathetic.
- MintControl, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1If the bill became law, the ESRB logo would be removed.
Companies have to pay to use the ESRB logo. No wonder the ESRB wanted it vetoed.
Just food for thought. - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 03/28/2009, -2/+2Um, it's REALLY obvious that this SB16 is unconstitutional in this country. We have the right of free assembly, for whatever ***** reason we want.
Stupid brainwashed Mormon fascists. - Logrusmage, on 03/27/2009, -0/+0No one actually reads who the ***** they're voting for. Most people just go with the crowd without question (the crowd of their area).
This results in dumb ***** being elected because people have heard their names before. - ak47ak47, on 03/27/2009, -1/+1the real question is: do i care if 13 year olds in utah can't buy grand theft auto? that's what i thought...
so what if the thing passes, most parents are stupid enough not to notice the rating unless the game says "grand theft auto" on the cover - paulvq, on 03/27/2009, -3/+2I don't see why people even try passing dumb laws like this. There have been court rulings after court rulings protecting games against legislation like this.
Here's a PDF of the court ruling in the case of the Entertainment Software Association v. Blagojevich:
http://www.mediacoalition.org/legal/esa%20blagojev ... - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 03/28/2009, -2/+1Except that he's a Mormon. That ends his presidential aspirations. I know a TON of Mormons and they are just monstrous mental head cases right down to last one. Without fail.
- samsmartjr, on 03/27/2009, -2/+1Although I play video games, I rather like video game ratings. I think that parents should be able to know if the video games they're buying for their kids contain too much violence or sex. I also think that a good ratings system will actually help video games for mature audiences. However, I don't think a flawed law about the subject should be passed. Hopefully the Utah legislature will pass an appropriate law on this matter.
- SwiftKick34, on 03/27/2009, -2/+1WHAT?! A republi-***** governor with common sense?! It can't be!
</s> - Misinformant, on 03/27/2009, -8/+5UTAH
- Cotterdamn, on 03/27/2009, -8/+1and he makes it illegal for me to text while I'm driving. ***** him.
- inactive, on 03/27/2009, -21/+0So basically this governor would rather avoid a court deal than prevent kids from buying dangerous games for kids. Remind me to move to utah . . . not!
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