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- tocksin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48good policy
- gweedo767, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40Please note that you will receive an email outlining what you need to do to get your account going again. You have to fax a few proof of identity kind of things and a written acknowledgment that you have read their pre-sale policy and won't break it again :)
- aeproberts, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I agree.....I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything until you have it in your hands.
- afex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24unless the ps3 is in your basement, you aren't 'guaranteed' *****. read the fine print on your preorder. and secondly, this policy isn't about how 'guaranteed' it is that you have one..its about not selling ***** you don't have.
- JFetch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26I wonder if you can sell your receipt for your pre order? It is in your hands already, and you can just sell that to someone, and they can go pick up the PS3 if it's a store order.
- RedZeppelin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Good. Greedy bastards.
- ZackScott, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I don't think there's any real risk because you can always return it with a receipt to GameStop.
- kynky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Use ebay with their policies or don't use ebay. Ebay don't force you to use them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Police your life? WTF are you talking about?!? No one forced you to use eBay; and there are other auction sites you could use instead.
No, this just sounds like someone is bitter about getting their account banned for trying to fleece PS3 fanboys more than Sony already is. Now your'e stuck with a $600 system that you never intended to use because you were greedy. Sucks for you. Deal with it and move on.
Look at the bright side, you can still sell it on uBid, Craigslist, Yahoo Auctions, cetc. or just go the old fashioned way and sell it out of the trunk of your car in the Gamestop/EB Games parking lot. - angelp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I agree, but it looks like eBay is still allowing them to sell an item that they don't actually physically have (they can put it back up later on this month). There's no way I would purchase someone's "pre-order".
- netwookiee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Ha Ha!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Wait til I have a famliy? OK. I'd guess after stp 1 it would look something like this:
1.5 Mom tells kid to stfu and wait until we can afford it.
end of story.
Capitulating to your spoiled kids is bad enough, don't cry about ebay sellers on top of it. - TrainwreckX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I also agree. They aren't even selling something TANGIBLE. Gamestop said that a pre-order slip doesn't necessarily get you one at launch anyway. Way to go eBay.
+digg to eBay. - angelp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I don't feel much sympathy because it is greed, plain and simple. They couldn't even wait until they actually had the unit in hand before trying to sell it off.
- DangerMouse9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10So do you get your kid everything he wants? You can solve the whining by telling him that if he has the cash for it he can have it, until then he's going to have to make due with everything else he has. By buying him everything he wants you're just reenforcing in his head that the more he whines the more he'll get his way.
With that in mind, having the PS3 be over priced on ebay would be a good lesson for the kid. It will teach patience and that you can't always get what you want. On the other hand, you'll have a spoiled little brat if you buy him stuff just to keep him from whining. - Dextrose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I see all these auctions on eBay claiming #1 in the COUNTRY on the list. No doofus -- you're #1 at t THE EB/GameStop where YOU ordered -- not in the country.
- Denver80203, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Whatever. Maybe they are all Wii fanboys at Ebay, huh?
You'r opinion doesn't make the article innaccurate - coyforce, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Well, I can see this both ways. People want to make some cash off the rich who are used to buying anything they want whenever they want and who are too lazy (or too good) to stand in line like the rest of us. On the other hand, this is a very slippery slope. Soon there will be people taking out personal loans so they can buy the systems all up so they can sell them on ebay/craigslist/wherever. That totally sucks for those of us who are willing to stand in line to get one as they come out. I know the real issue here is the ebay TOS, but I think it's a much deeper issue than just that.
Well, free country and all; why should people with tons of money stop crapping on people without that kind of money now? - johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Interesting.
I have pre-payed for my PS3 purchase in full at a local Gamestop. Now, I'm one of those folks who fully intends on selling it online (yes, I'm evil, blah, blah, blah).
My plan was to put the order onto eBay with the auction starting on November 12, ending 1300 EST November 17 - this way, I would have said item in hand and be able to ship it overnight to the winner, and if something came up (like the local Gamestop blew up and there were no PS3's for me), then I could still cancel.
So will my account still be band no November 12th if I take this route, or do I need to wait until November 17th to start it?
Either way, it's a month away, so no problem.
PS: I just read the notes - looks like you can put it on eBay on the 10-18-2006, so no problem ;). - OandA, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9MrSidnet
Why are they jerks?
Its capitalism at its best.
Thats why I got two preorders at gamestop yesterday. And I plan on getting more as soon as the other retailers get them. Why? Because I want a PS3. I want a Wii. I want an XBOX360. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PAY 1250 for all 3 systems. And then about 750 bucks on accessories and games total for all the systems. Thats 2 grand total so far.
The PS3s will fund my gaming and I think that is totally fair. And If i make more why not? It cost me time to stand on a line for hours on end. And at the end of the day you're probably selling to people who never would have had the time or the knowledge to get the ps3 and you're providing a service because they are WILLING to pay a high amount to make their kids happy. If you want to blame anyone for a shortage of PS3s blame SONY. - NikoKun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would think Selling the Preorder receipt would get the buyer nothing but a peice of paper... >_>
Places like gamestop sell a preorder to the specific person, usually that means it doesn't matter who has the receipt, because they base it on person/address/phonenumber/ID cards/ect...
I also assume places like gamestop dont allow preorders to be transfered to another person.
Any idiot that went to gamestop just to sell the preorder, is well, an idiot, and an *****...
If you wanna make $1000, just keep your preorder and get it at launch, THEN sell it...
Shows how lazy some people are if they trying to sell it now...
I feel sorry for those people that were there to preorder it for themselves to keep... and didn't get one, because some ass wanted to sell a preorder receipt... - digitalintrigue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Greed?
Is it greed when you sell your time for money (i.e., get paid for your job?)
Is it greed when your shares of Google go up and you sell them and take the profit?
All you people who call it greed would jump at the chance to buy a PS3 if it were mis-priced at Best Buy for $300 and not think twice about it.
Being 'ripped off' means someone stole something from you, it's not when you purchase something (that is in high demand) of your own free will off ebay.
People need to stop equating capitalism & supply and demand with greed. - dotpage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5My 5 cents: eBay is not a friendly enviroment anymore, it became a haven for crooks and thieves, and no matter how honest you are, bad business always find a way to screw the good user. I had a rock shipped to me and when I challenged the charge on my credit card and won, I got banned from eBay AND Paypal until the guy that shipped me a rock "change his feedback" or send eBay and Paypal an email saying the transaction was restored.
I wish there was anoter major website for auctions. - Myst3r1o, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good... excellent. People should NOT sell whatever for triple the price of the item being sold on ebay. That's just plain wrong. I just hope that even after the PS3 launches, that if people try to sell their PS3s on ebay for triple the amount they paid in the first place, that they get their account banned.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"just go the old fashioned way and sell it out of the trunk of your car in the Gamestop/EB Games parking lot."
HA! yeah right... like that'll happen. i can see him trying to unload it online, but NOT in front of an angry crowd. - nattybohman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It ends up free if you have a credit card. Charge it and pay it off with your profit, or return it if you don't sell it for some freak reason.
- aonaran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What? when did EBay start actually allowing pre-sales, as opposed to just not having the manpower to properly police their TOS? When I joined, and when I almost got banned for selling burned REDHAT discs (the downloadable GPL versions, not the store bought ones with extra stuff... the issue was I was calling them "RedHat" when I agreed to change them to "Tartan Linux, a RedHat work-alike" they backed off... anyway, on both those occasions when I read over the TOS in detail the rule was you could not sell anything that you didn't have in your possession.
- Reap, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Wow, someone assuming the system is not going to be fun before ANYONE has one. My hat is off to you sir, for you obviously have powers to see the future and know exactly what will happen.
If you want people to agree with you, you might want to present your opinion in a SLIGHTLY less predjudiced way. You know. Like reasonable people. - angelp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Did you have to pay $600 or could you have only "paid" $100?
- johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I only had to pay $100, but I felt like taking care of it all at once so I didn't have to worry about it later.
- 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14Anyone selling their pre-order is an ass hole and should be kicked in the teeth.. Scumbags..
- nakke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah Dylan, but somebody else asked if you could sell the recipe earlier.
- Swampthing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People who are selling their pre-orders ought to have their flabby fat asses caned in public while they scream about how we are all communists. :) Then we can put the bloody cane up on eBay for the highest bid...
Nothing wrong with making an extra buck, but there IS something wrong with making a buck at the expense of others. Others who won't have that opportunity to buy a PS3 at regular price because you greedy bastards snatched them all off the shelves. WTF do you care... right? I hope each of you gets stuck with 2 or 3 extra PS3s which you were forced to pay full price for because no one out there allowed you to sell your pre-orders.
- gooch2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Speaking of Pre-orders. I was in my local EB Games this past weekend trading in some stuff when I overheard the guy behind the counter on the phone to a customer who wanted to pre order a PS3. I don't know if this is true (I've dealt with thee guy on the phone before and he's never BS'd me about other stuff) but he told the guy that they (EB) were not going to take PS3 pre-orders because all the stores in his area (I'm in the Los Angeles area) were only getting between 3 and 8 systems a piece at launch so they were not going to do pre-orders.
Then I read the stories on Digg and other places that some stores are taking pre-orders and the subsequent stories about EB/Gamestop employees being able to buy the systems.
It all made sense then.
But back to eBay. I think the policy is good if not a little shaky precedence(sp) wise. You should not be able to sell a pre-order but i wonder if on the 'official' day of launch you can or not.
I don't care either way. Yes, people selling preorders (and systems in hand) on eBay does shaft some people who want the product for play and not profit but hey, all you guys who think the people doing that are scum had every opportunity they had to get a pre-order in the first place (with few exceptions) They just hustled harder. - raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One of the underlying tenets of capitalism, CyberFT, is that no one automatically deserves an "upside". What determines how deserving you are is the market, not how much work you put into something.
People invested millions in stuff like pets.com and got nothing for their money. And they didn't deserve to, just as you don't automatically deserve success from your PS3 loans. - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Well, free country and all; why should people with tons of money stop crapping on people without that kind of money now?"
Because your time is worth less than theirs, and if you would like to go wait in front of a game store in order to pre-order a system, you can do so with far less cost.
It's free market. I think that the stores, not the manufacturers should set the prices up to however high they think people will pay. If they don't have the balls to do it (or can't, because of regulations), then why shouldn't individuals be able to take advantage of others' money?
If you're upset by this, you should only be upset at yourself for not participating in trading a little of your time for the rich's money. If they're willing to be that stupid and pay that much, why not ***** them over? - intense321, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I've sold thousands of items on ebay with BIN and have never had a problem.
- Dylan16807, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People are selling their preordered PS3s, to be delivered after they come in.
- Coffeedemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I find it hard to believe you rounded up several best buy employees who could afford a "few" PS3s each.
- RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@zetsurin
5? more like 20% of all preorders. - antrios, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Dammit, when did the preorder start?
Now how am I going to afford retirement?
Ah well, I guess I'll pay more attention when Sony launches the PS4. They will ship 3 systems on the first day. One Ultra-rig in Japan, and two "nobody really wants this crap version of the PS4, but we can sell it for 100 dollars less to the cash strapped and desperate"-rigs in the US. They will sell for 1500 and 1400 dollars respectively. - maninblak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3My "opinion"? Go and read the actual pre-sale rule on Ebay. "the item will be available for shipping within 30 days from the date of purchase (i.e., the day the listing ends or the date the item is purchased from a store front listing)". They took down plenty of auctions that violated no rules and refuse to reply to sellers asking why their auctions were taken down. Explain to me which part of my post was an opinion.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Excellent. That should foil the plans of those 5 idiots that were planning on doing so.
- us3ecandme, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@johnhummel
I was just thinking about this particular dilemma and this might not work, but you could try. Why not sell a blank CD? Highest bidder also gets, thrown in free, your gamestop preorder slip. I'm not 100% familiar with ebay's ToS, but logically, you aren't "selling" the preorder, you're selling the blank CD (stranger things have been sold for higher prices). - monkeyflingpoo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8How exactly is this greed? It's just supply and demand. You are all fools if you would take a PS3 home and not post it on ebay. Sure I want a PS3 but why not let it pay for itself? I don't understand why this is greedy. Is money bad? It's like any other investment. It is level ground for anybody who wants a PS3 to wait in line but most people DO want one but they want to make a few bucks first. Greedy? Pfff... Go ahead and digg me down but you guys just want to bash something.
- thatbox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what
laughing at someone who has order or magnitude issues in this post - nattybohman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I completely agree.
I don't feel one bit sorry for people who aren't able to get one for the $600 list price. If they really wanted it badly enough they would've kept up on announcements and gotten in line at EB the other morning. I only showed up 1/2 hour early and was 2nd in line. How easy can it get.
Even if they don't put in the effort to keep up with announcements, they will even have a second chance by waiting in line at Best buy on 11/17. If they REALLY care, they'll get in line early enough to buy a system.
I read the industry news daily and kept up on things by bothering the hell out of the EB guys since April.
If you want it bad enough, there's NOTHING (aside from the $600 price) stopping you from getting one. - nakke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You're blaming the sellers? It's not them who are stupid if the products get sold.
It's not like the oh-so-desperate parents wouldn't have any other choise but to buy a system for $2k from eBay. - n8236, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What's with all the insults about people's moms and dads, and how they raise their kids. Do those of you that do, have a chip on your shoulders or something? Who are you to judge or tell how to raise a child?
Secondly, if people have the greens to buy their ps3 pre-orders for $1.5k, that's their problem, not yours. Calling them morons won't get you one :P
Thirdly, quit hatin' on the people that sell it for a profit, it's not like it's the first time. If you're gonna hate, go burn down Sony's HQ for taking pre-orders.
If Sony were to release 5 million units on Nov 17th, none of you hatin' bitches (you know who you are) would be reading this :D - m00nstone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The whole PS3 launch is about selling on ebay. Especially for adult gamer geeks like me. I'm 36 have two young children and zero money. My plan:
1) Get PS3 pre-order.
2) Pickup pre-order on launch day.
3) Cash in with ebay auction (I expect to make $500-700 profit)
4) Buy toys I can't afford right now (killer LCD for my gaming rig, or maybe a Wii with a good bunch of games and accessories)
drool! -
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