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- rmg7789, on 07/13/2008, -1/+17Wait, something on the Escapist got dugg that wasn't zero punctuation?
- brianter, on 07/12/2008, -1/+15Good post, esp about fcking politicians :), hell once you are in you will sale your grandma in order to stay elected.
- appy77, on 07/12/2008, -1/+11Not sure how true this prediction will be, but a lot of people are spending their time online - mostly on games than offline.
- doctechnical, on 07/13/2008, -1/+10"Games will be respected soon because gamers will grow up and become politicians."
Yes, history shows this to be true. Look at all those '60s pot smokers that became politicians and now pot is legal.
Oh. Wait. - epadafunk, on 07/12/2008, -0/+8Your comment contradicts itself; plots in movies are not complicated and dramatic. So are you saying that movies will get better, or that games will get even worse?
- celotil, on 07/13/2008, -0/+7A few years ago I was invited to a House gathering of Young Liberal and Young Labor members. Basically it consisted of standing around in the parliamentary members bar getting a little bit drunk for an hour while we all received, or opted for, assignments of what voting districts we'd represent, then going into the House and pretending to be politicians for two hours, and afterwards breaking up into little groups and going out to clubs, pubs, what-have-you.
The new politicians will be exactly as the old. Ruthless, scheming bastards with only their own interests at heart. Anything they do that looks like an altruistic gesture is merely an attempt to ingratiate themselves with you better for better returns, and any politician who actually gives a ***** about his constituents is either character assassinated or leaves politics because it just makes them too physically ill. - MasterGrief, on 07/13/2008, -0/+6Zero Punctuation's doing its other job, then.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+7"Games will be respected soon because gamers will grow up and become politicians."
A) Politicians aren't grown up, they are petty little bickering children.
B) This is insulting to gamers, they only PRETEND to murder, rob, and assault people. - Murdats, on 07/13/2008, -0/+5"How many video gamers have the attention span to learn to play a decent game of chess?"
perhaps the ones that manage armies of scale beyond imagination while simultaneously handling economies and the like, you know, rts players.
and why invest time in learning to play a real guitar when a pretend one is cheaper and more fun? we arent all full of free time and most people dont want to learn to play a guitar because they have no use for it.
you obviously have a stereotypical image of gamers which you believe that nearly all of us conform to, good luck with that prejudice. - inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+5They cannot sell their grandma, they already sold her to get elected the first time.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+5"Things will get better once gamers become politicians!"
Over at the Escapist, they're taking a look at the future of gaming — Hal - Stinger911, on 07/13/2008, -0/+3With all due respect, that depends on the game. How many gamers have the attention span to learn to play a decent game of chess? Thousands, if the yahoo games page is any indication. Sure, modern youth are brought up on trigger-happy twitch action games, but there is still a very large audience of gamers who prefer more methodical, layered experiences.
- Murdats, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2this thread is getting old but still:
true, but the technology for cards, boards and guitars doesnt really change much, as the technology for video games change they are capable of bigger and better things.
we go from doom shooting at sprites, to shooting at 3d models, to shooting at hundreds of 3d models, to shooting those models in destructible terrain with realistic physics, each of these advancements makes newer games generally superior to their past incarnations.
oh and with magic, good luck finding many people who play with the early series's or people playing with early DnD rule sets. - NoDisk, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2Solid article, mostly of the “Obvious To All” variety, with two highpoints:
“The more attention I paid, the more I realized that Generations X and Y have grown up brand loyal. The reason, as best I can determine, is our parents couldn't afford to buy every gaming device, so we got the one that we begged/saved for and that was *the* brand. With this generation, it's not so. They're agnostic because they can afford to be. It's all about the content.”
Extremely insightful. However, it would tend to contradict an earlier statement where he dismisses the concept of a universal platform. In a world bereft of fanboys where content is king, platforms would be as interchangeable as televisions. Interfaces and logos vary but a TV is a TV. At some point, if it’s all about the content, a Console will be a Console. We’re almost there now, in fact, save for a few exclusives and a schism in drop-times.
“Why stop at the success of the Burger King games for Xbox? Why can't there be a whole product line that mitigates the cost associated with development via alternate revenue streams?”
This was a shudder moment for me. He’s right, of course. Why make a game that sells once (Aftermarket sales benefit only the retailer) when you can riddle your game with advertisements and draw a check every time a console lights up? My only comment is a paraphrase from the all-knowing Philip J. Fry, on acceptable advertisements: "Only on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and written in the sky. But not in games. No, sir-ee!" - DigSomeMore, on 07/13/2008, -2/+4Everything evolves and never looks the same...
- Shaflugi, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2They've got it half-digital and half-physical. You've gotta start somewhere!
- provendelusion, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2dude. come on guys. this is a fairly weak article. buried.
- kingfoot, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2yeah i dont really care if it be true or not entirely. what happens, happens. and gaming wont be going away for a LONG time. i just want to comment, that this was one of the better articles ive read in a long while. we need more quality like this on the front page.
- doctechnical, on 07/13/2008, -1/+2In my defense I'll point out that I've been a gamer since the mid-70s, and in that time my primary observation about the sub-set "video gamers" is that it's very much flash over substance that sells video games. How many video or computer games did you play ten years ago that you still find entertaining today? A handful?
Whereas in the non-virtual reality that are a great many games that are timeless - I'll invoke chess again. Look at how long Monopoly has been around. Or Scrabble. Or Go, Reversi, Ogre, D&D, even Magic the Gathering still has a large following.
To put it another way, there are any number of sites and magazines that "score" new video games. If a game of technology 5 years old were reviewed it would be panned, while five years ago it might have scored in the top dozen games of that year.
Back to guitars, I'll bet that for the price of the game and the controller you could find a used serviceable (if not pretty) real guitar good enough for learning with. And ten years from now people will still be playing guitars, but no one will be playing Guitar Hero. - kingfoot, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1half the games out there are BETTER at stories, than movies. HL series for example. and one surprising one for me, was heavenly sword. zelda has a wonderful storyline, and many others (as much as i dislike the games, halo does have a good storyline.)
- tobikow, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1They actually do stuff other than make Zero Punctuation???
- rheaume, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1It cannot be predicted
- urgeigh, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Everyone's quoting the "gamers becoming politicians" quote, anyone catch this?
"Timeline for more maturity in online gaming: five years." - bahahaha.. I would love it if this happened but there's no way in hell. I know enough 8-11 year olds (13-16 in 5 years) through friends and family and trust me, maturity in online gaming is perpetually doomed until people below 18 just aren't allowed to play with adults anymore, or until good parenting becomes popular again, neither of which will probably ever happen. And even then, there are still plenty of immature adults playing as well. Sadface. - Philmer, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1The first thing I thought when I read the description was this scene:
- The constitution must be upheld!
- Sir, if I may?
- Yes?
- In all due respect, the constitution is a lie!
- What?? And what about the lives at stake?
- If we secure their spawn points, all should go well.....
- Mr.Gordon, just, leave, please. Don't come back.
- I guess it's time to kick ass and--
- yes, i know chew some gum. And yes, you ARE all out of gum. - ninewhereman, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1That's why you have two.
- benguild, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Lmao, I find statements like this hilarious when you yourself are a 'Digger'.
- burnedtubes, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Agreed
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+1"Digital distribution will soon kill packaged goods."
I can only hope.
Valve is the only people doing it
XBOX 360 needs this - JPong01, on 07/14/2008, -0/+0Gah its not working. Bury this. Damn greedy people. The website is so slow on my work connection. Even with adblock plus.
- Rudegar, on 07/13/2008, -0/+0i forsee end bosses
- kingfoot, on 07/13/2008, -1/+1yet you can still pick up a copy of the orange box, and hl2 (even HL) throughout the world on cd/dvd form.
- traichea, on 07/13/2008, -0/+0Agreed but not buried to promote free speech
- apena89, on 07/13/2008, -0/+0maybe for gamers that can afford it (paying ~$59.99 for a downloaded game that cannot be exchanged at places like gamestop).
I work at gamestop and it seems to me that most people that shop there depend on trading physical items for new items. If not to help them pay for it. - apena89, on 07/13/2008, -1/+1"How many video or computer games did you play ten years ago that you still find entertaining today? A handful?"
Starcraft, starcraft and oh, starcraft!
The only game possibly even worth still playing to this day and is still extremely entertaining. - JPong01, on 07/14/2008, -0/+0One page article available here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/print/501 ... - Stinger911, on 07/13/2008, -0/+0That's a double edged sword, honestly. Modern video games, the Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy series' for example, have borrowed so heavily from cinema that gameplay becomes almost a second fiddle to the cutscene storytelling. There is a distinction between story-telling and narrative; most game developers have not recognized this distinction. Story-telling is passive by nature. Narrative can be interactive. Bioshock is a good example of a game that weaves a compelling interactive narrative while still feeling like a game instead of a movie.
- BrookeGill9, on 07/12/2008, -5/+5gaming will evolve beyong recognition. There will be plots as complicated and dramatic as oscar winning movies. an individual's interaction will grow as each user will play the game a different way. but as for throwing politics into this growing art... seems a bit childish too me.
- spacecheese, on 07/13/2008, -2/+2a hologram that wacks you off.
- Zacee, on 07/13/2008, -2/+1"gaming will evolve beyong recognition. There will be plots as complicated and dramatic as oscar winning movies. an individual's interaction will grow as each user will play the game a different way. but as for throwing politics into this growing art... seems a bit childish too me."
Id say games are 90% there with the piss poor attempts they call movies these days. - doctechnical, on 07/13/2008, -2/+1"The Maltese Falcon" made into a game would really do well. On Mars.
How many video gamers have the attention span to learn to play a decent game of chess? Better yet, investing time in learning to play a REAL guitar rather than perfect the skills of playing a fake one?
Video games are like cotton candy, tasty but not really filling. - jbonik, on 07/13/2008, -1/+0Good article, thanks for posting...
Politicians will go after gaming for the foreseeable future, and it's only likely to escalate as gamers get older. Titles are going to go into more risky territory as their audience ages. The wide acceptance of television and film hasn't stopped political organizations from ranting about the evils of Hollywood. - Zalyster, on 07/13/2008, -7/+2Gamers becoming politicians is about as possible as Diggers having a girlfriend.
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