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- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -9/+106not really. The end of the article is what I see as the focus:
"The question is: If you're somehow able to find a PlayStation 3 on a store shelf this year, is it worth buying one? Sadly, the answer is not yet. The system is too expensive for what most people will get out of it -- and the initial slate of games don't offer enough innovation or thrills to justify the purchase.
Wait until prices drop $100 or even $200 -- and until there are a few more good games available - before you consider making the plunge."
The complaints would be: high cost, and a lack of must-have release games. - blasphemer, on 10/12/2007, -13/+81Try dropping $499 or $599 on it, hooking it up to a 1080i native television and pop in resistance and stare at 480p. Now there's a flaw for yah.
- wideawakewesley, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43I'm starting to think Europeans will benefit from a March release.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43I think most of us are the same on this. We wouldn't want to pay that price and be an early adopter, but in a couple of years time when the Cell is being fully utilised, it has the potential to rock rather wildly indeed.
That said, i would like to see Sony getting something of a hammering in the short term! - Qacer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42It's pretty interesting how he suggests that consumers should wait for the PS3 to drop down to $100-$200 less. Also, the fact that he thinks the Wiimote feels more natural seems to suggest that current PS3 games haven't fully tweaked the sixaxis feature.
- ronintetsuro, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34Re: outdated at launch.
Dirty lies spread by hardware manufacturers to move product. Your hardware is outdated when it stops doing what YOU want it to do, not before. - Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39The same thing with computers. The moment it rolls off the assembly line, the software and hardware is outdated. Having to update your PS3, Xbox, and Wii is just the price gamers have to pay for advanced consoles such as these.
- samdu, on 10/12/2007, -38/+68His biggest complaint seems to be having to install an update to the system the first time you boot it up. The Wii will have the same issue.
- PFS1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27>> seems to suggest that current PS3 games haven't fully tweaked the sixaxis feature.
I think it's more the shape of the controller than the implementation. It's going to be tough to implement anything more than 1) basic steering or 2) quick stabs to subsititue as a button press, because your hands stuck together, grasping a traditional game controller. The wiimote, however, is just a stick, is held with one hand, and can be twisted, moved around freely, and used naturally.
The difference is that the wiimote is built around motion sensing, whereas for sixaxis, it is just added bonus to a traditional game setup. Being an added bonus and not an actual design consideration limits its potential. - ronintetsuro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Sorry, no.
Nintendo and Sony are after completely different markets with the Wii and the PS3.
No hardware junkie will slaver over a Wii and no sane person will pay $600 for a PS3. Yeah, I said it. - meshgiath, on 10/12/2007, -12/+26I love the subtle Wii insult "the wii WILL have the same problem.
Actually it won't. Wii updates are done automatically with the WiiConnect24. No user interaction required - TangentThought, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Don't bring politics into gaming. Otherwise you'd get more idiotic people from both sides of the spectrum complaining that video games cause violence.
- SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Dude, the 10th Anniversary Elmo is the hottest non-video game console thing this season amung the toddler set. You wake up.
- Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13That's the rule of thumb for any console.
- ArekRashan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Elmo is big again this year. Welcome to 2006 - what goes around, comes around.
- daridave, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Fanboys will bury our comments, but truth is Nintendo and Sony are applying the same business strategies/philosophies on the PS3/Wii that they used with the PSP/DS Lite.
Pricing, power, innvation categories are all touched equally on both situations and the only real difference here is that one thing is portable and the other isn't. Will that simply factor change the whole scenario? I think not.
Even if it did, truth is it's looking even brighter for the Wii, which is the wildcard (being so different), because the PS3 has competition in the Xbox 360 as well, which does everything it can, if not better.
Only fanboys will refuse to believe it, but everyone else who would have to bet money on it probably would stand away from the PS3... - epiccollision, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13yes, apparently 10 min to update a console first time out is completely intolerable...
- number9ine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Looking back historically, they will indeed drop. Sure they are losing money now, but the technology is fixed in the PS3. Therefore in a year all of the components will be a year old, and cheaper to produce. Alternatively, cheaper versions of the components will come out and the next iteration of the hardware will cost less to manufacture. Either way, the price per unit will drop and eventually Sony will lower the consumer price to renew sales.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's biggest problem from becoming a global hit is the price, plain and simple.
How many Wii and Xbox will be under Christmas trees this December? (even if Sony were able to supply as many PS3 as needed).
Microsoft is rolling, Nintendo is gaining steam again for taking a risk, and Sony is floundering in the battle for mass appeal. And mass appeals is where the $$ and develpment support is at. - daridave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8ronintetsuro
I agree to some extent. But the common dominator here is VIDEO GAMES, and as far as those go, well.. the PS3 is the least attractive.
But I'm not bashing SONY here -- heck, the real deal is still the PS2, so SONY still is the king of the hill. - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Come on, the PS3 is launched tomorrow and you don't expect a Tech/Geek website to feature stories on it?
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7positive reviews? cnet gave it a 8.8 pretty much the highest rating any console has ever gotten from them
- JaybeasCorpus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"I for one, do not look forward to jumping around my living room just to play MarioKart."
Last I checked, Mario Kart was a driving game. If you have to jump around your room to play it, even with the Wiimote, you're clearly doing something wrong. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6lol leaving because theres too many stories on one subject at one time, try putting apple or linux in your rss feed, anyway
good riddence :) - timjbart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It seems a pretty fair review.
It could be an amazing machine, but at the moment it feels incomplete.
I hope it sticks around long enough to be used to its full power potential in the way the PS2 has. Maybe they can iron out the teething troubles? - IheartZombies, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"The problem is that the motion doesn't feel natural here, as it does with the Nintendo Wii. Perhaps as developers get more used to the feature, they'll be better able to incorporate it into their games. Initially, though, you get the impression they were caught off guard when the feature was announced -- and rushed to find some way to include it."
I read this paragraph as follows:
Nintendo: "...and we have motion sensitive controlling!"
Sony: "...er, uh...so do we!"
Sony game developers: "What. The. *****..."
Digg me down, but that's the summation of how it went down. - jknevitt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10... and look who won out of that match-up.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Whaaaaaaambulance!!
- Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10So does that mean Wii is gonna win the mid term elections?
- Sniper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Only a pathetic fanboy would make that kind of comment without even trying the console for themselves.
- Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Exactly. That's the great thing about technology: you wait long enough, the cost to produce drops.
- cogsprocket, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"Wait until prices drop $100 or even $200 -- and until there are a few more good games available - before you consider making the plunge."
The exact quote... He said wait for it to drop $100-200 in price, not TO $100-200. - glitch23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I just game back from San Francisco, where the PS3 West coast launch party will be held, and the PS store had 5 demo units setup, everyone there that played any game was happy and looked impressed, I know I was. My GF was, and she hates me playing video games, but she picked up Motorstorm and loved it.
You don't know anything until you play the games and use the machine yourself.
Opinions are like *****, everybody has one. - Pissoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The one thing that makes me not want a PS3 is the change of the controllers.
***** motion control, I want to use my Dualshock 2's. - jdoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@samdu
It is the biggest complaint in the first four paragraphs of the article.
You dont get extra diggs for being the first comment. - staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"
"In a nutshell, the SCE conference on Monday was a terrible representation for how well this controller feels and how accurate it is in motion. The pre-E3 demo was designed to show off motion sensing in general, but if the fellow playing had just steered the dang ship, people would have gawked. In hands-on play, the controller works beautifully. You can weave through canyons, just barely dusting the cliff edges without wrecking, and then you can dive down straight towards the water below before pulling up at the very last second to graze the surface."
"It works, and in feel, it's more analog than standard stick control -- usually, gamers peg the control for everything but fine movement, but because you're shaking the controller around, you are driven towards smaller movement and more "analog" steering. The hardcore may turn off motion control and just use the sticks where they can, but the feel of the game seems to do the job of introducing casual gamers to the system, while the added third controller feature (or rather 8th control, considering motion movement features "six axis") should offer tons of movement options to next-gen games."
May 10, 2006 by Marc Nix
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/707/707070p1.html
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"The control is really slick. The game uses the controller's internal tilt-sensing mechanisms to steer your ship. It worked really well, and didn't feel jittery at all. Holding R1 rolls your ship, double-tapping R2 kicks in your afterburners for a quick speed boost, and triangle converts you into and out of hover mode. The D pad on the controller is used for selecting secondary weapons, and square fires them. X is your main machine gun.""
May 8, 2006 by Jeff Gerstmann, GameSpot
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/warhawk/news.html?page=1&sid=6149597
It is not that Sony, or the PS3 doesn't have good stories about them it is just that digg ignores them. At E3 both gamestop, and ign editors commented on how slick the controls were after they got thier hands on it. I wonder why we never saw diggs of these articles hit the front page.... - Pissoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Only a pathetic fanboy would call somone a pathetic fanboy for ... oh wait, damnit!
- 13tongimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"But the PS3 is far from a bad machine. It has the potential to be all the PS2 was and more. And remember: the console wars aren't won or lost at launch. They're marathons that usually don't start to shake out for two or three years after all the new systems are on the market. To count Sony out this early would be foolish."
The same things were said about the PS2 and PS1 at launch...like they say, this isn't a sprint. - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And the PS2 launched at $300, and now costs $120. They were losing money at $300, I'm not sure about now at $120.
At $120, the PS2, a 6 year old machine, continues to outsell the X360, which was the latest and greatest.
It's important to realize that because of price, the PS2 is the Wii's main competitor. The PS3 is effectively a sideshow right now. Everybody is paying attention to it, but the real business of Playstation domination currently continues. The 360 is apparently not currently toppling that, maybe the Wii can?
According to this guy: ( http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/library/gamedata.html ) Game sales for the PS2 in 2Q06 were almost 50% greater then Xbox, Xbox 360 and Gamecube combined. Aka, we're going to see new PS2 games coming out for awhile. - jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Every day that goes by, the PS3 reminds me more and more of the 3DO
- staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3these reviews go in line with Incognito's comments about the tilting technology.
"Actually, Incognito has secretly been working with Sony on the tilt technology for a while, but it wasn't until the last few weeks before E3 that they received a working controller. As for improvements since then, right now we're integrating the aerobatics system so you can use it to perform cool stunts like loops and spins, as well as testing out other gameplay in our ground modes."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/716/716051p1.html
To believe they implemented it only 2 weeks before E3 and got these positive reviews doesn't make to much sense. - maxx77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Have fun over at Netscape! *crying with laughter*
- ronintetsuro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Too bad your recorded content would only be watchable in UMD format, which would mean transferring it onto a umd format CD. Good thing they'd offer an UMD burner (only compatible with Sony Vaio's) second quarter 2007, ect. ect.
You know, SOP for Sony. - nkap, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12Wait - did he even mention flaws? All I got was a lot of "it's got potential", a little "look I know the name of a few other consoles", and then "too many options and it upgrades itself automatically." Did I miss something?
- AzraelKans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3er... arent these the same guys who called Jack Thompson "video game expert?" and then made an entire season for "games as murder simulators"?
Who the ***** cares what these guys think? Obviously they have never played ANY game, they just read the reviews at the websites and extrapolate from there. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Blasphemer:
You mean hooking it to a TV that does only 1080i, not one that is 1080i native. Any decent 1080 native TV accepts 720p too. - Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Apparently, you missed the last few paragraphs of the article!
- Maxo1128, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Keep it to yourself. We don't really care.
- cramd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Launch title "NBA 07" is the best initial example, with detail as fine as the pores on player's skin. But expect no visual detail to be to minor."
Was there not just an article on digg.com that said that NBA 07 will not be a launch title? I think that Gen 2 PS3's will be pretty solid, but I for one will not line up for more that 5 min to buy any game system.
have you seen what the PS3 pre-orders have been going for on ebay? People are dropping $2500 bucks on this thing.. - killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3but somoene will still buy them on ebay, so i dont see your point, all 150k units will be in the hands of eager gamers within next week. if people are willing to pay 1k and up for it, than i think it has mass appeal
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