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PTC Director Lies About Drunk Driving in GTA 4

shacknews.com — When the reporter corrected Isett, the director backpedaled, offering instead that it was a "rewarded activity" which is "necessary for advancement." When pressed further, Isett confessed that he hadn't gotten far enough in the game to experience its drunk driving for himself. "No, no. I didn't get that far... I rented it at a friend's house."

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  • cannonball, on 05/09/2008, -2/+172I'm not going to read this article because I've already made up my mind that this guy sucks.

    You see? It works both ways!!!
    • rhylan, on 05/09/2008, -5/+3Smooth
    • PolarBearCa, on 05/09/2008, -9/+2I see what you did there...
    • bluezinc, on 05/09/2008, -6/+4You should, the censoratti suck balls. They're just a bunch of self-righteous egotistical assholes who think their personal tastes should be forced upon everyone. We should all watch Murder She Wrote and listen to Gary Cooper's Christmas album.
      • TheGuruStud, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Omg, I would have to kill myself or become deaf and blind by precarious measures.
    • ClemsonPoker, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Well, except you were right...
  • bananaspiders, on 05/09/2008, -10/+2pwned
  • NaziHatinChimp, on 05/09/2008, -2/+48Actually, to get 100%, you need to go drinking with your friends and 100% is rewarded. But then again you can always just get a cab.
    • weeman43302, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7You don't have to go drinking though. Couldn't you just go out to eat or something?
      • Conwaysb0718, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7unless they specifically ask you if you want to go get drunk... then you gotta go or you lose %. But you can always do a more "socially acceptable" activity later.
        • Anpheus, on 05/09/2008, -0/+15And you don't have to go with your car, CALL A CAB!

          That way you don't wreck your nice car going out with people in the game.
          • ChildeRoland420, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1The game has never let me get in a cab after I was already drunk.
          • korvan504521, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1its harder to call them when you're absolutely drunk, but as soon as it starts to wear off you can start hailing them. however, even at your most drunk you can climb into a cab if you get close enough to them. you don't need to hail a cab to get in, you can even pull the current passenger out (and it doesn't make the cops mad).
          • JudgeMonkey, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2YELLOOOOOW CAAAAAAR! First time I ever went drinking I got a cab. Sometimes the cabs stop a ridiculous distance away, and stumbling over to them is not easy. I tried driving, but within driving a couple of yards I crashed into a phone poll and got a 1 star wanted level.
          • ericrous, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1You can call a cab while drunk, it's just a little harder. Nicko will scream out "Cab, please stop!" or some other funny drunken phrase instead of doing his usual whistle.
      • louiedog, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2To get 100% completion I believe you need to do all available activities with some of your friends.
    • funkyloki, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10Exactly. Hell, the game even suggests that route (the cab) is better, otherwise you will have to suffer the consequences. I would think that is better. They give the player a choice, just like life, and there is a wrong and a right choice, and consequences for each.
      All of this hullaballo is over nothing, the whole "Think of the Children" crowd just needs a new bandwagon to jump on.
      • doctadjones, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Plus, if you don't take a cab you'll most likely get in an accident, your girlfriend will be ***** at you, and you won't get laid.

        Oh wait, I forgot sex is evil too ...
        • senatorpjt, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3I've found it's almost impossible to drive home drunk in the game without getting a wanted level, which I've done probably hundreds of times in real life.
          • korvan504521, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1yeah, but were you drunk in reality like Niko is? Unable to walk drunk?
    • da_bradler, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Normally I just call Roman and he sends a car to pick me up... I mean if anything it's highly unrewarding to drink and drive, your all over the road you can't see a damn thing the cops will chase you if they even get a peek at you.

      I mean you could say it's unrewarding to call a cab because it costs you money and you have to leave your car... but that's no different then real life. There certainly isn't a drink and drive mini game built in.
  • dobbinmon, on 05/09/2008, -0/+111Nico actually encourages you to use a cab
    • korvan504521, on 05/09/2008, -0/+38the cabs are the most awesome new edition to the franchise.
      • Conwaysb0718, on 05/09/2008, -0/+12I use them constantly just because driving everywhere can get really tedious. Its only a slight pain in the ass when you get dropped off somewheres and no cab comes around for awhile.
        • da_bradler, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2That's what your good cousin roman is handy for. almost always willing to send a car to pick you up.
      • caselogic, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4agreed.
      • tattertech, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4I definitely use cabs everywhere. Sucks when I take a cab to a mission and then I need to find a car though.
        • Conwaysb0718, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Yea, but if you need one they seem to either supply one or have them parked somewhere pretty close.
          • pegisys, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1or you could just call for one, I don't know if that works while your out with Roman but it's at least an option for everyone else
          • Conwaysb0718, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3Seems like every time i call Roman for a car when there's something important i gotta do, i get the damn answering machine, even when its at 100%. I suppose you could always just call 911 and steal a cop car or something...
          • tattertech, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Nah, they don't supply a car all the time. They supply it if it's urgent, but now and then there's a mission where it starts and I have to trek my ass to car.
      • antiorblkflag9, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Niko's drivers absolutely hate you
        • MasterGrief, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Only Fatty Roman's taxi driver. Everyone else just wants to take you where you want to go and, along the way, maybe spout a couple of crazy things and throw some litter out the window.

          I played over 45 hours of GTA IV before finally noticing, today, that taxi drivers will actually do that last bit. Before, I almost always skipped to my destination, so I never got a chance to see the driver toss garbage out the window.
    • Mawds, on 05/10/2008, -0/+20YEELLLOOOWW CAAARRRR!!!
    • popolop, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3Niko.
    • ClemsonPoker, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Yep, last time I did it, he said, "NIko, if you drink and drive, you are *****" or something along those lines.
  • richmomz, on 05/09/2008, -0/+60I've read articles that also stated that GTA 4 contains rape, dismemberment, torture and full nudity (which is obviously false). I guess these commentators need to make up stuff and make wild assumptions on the content of the game since they're too lazy to check it out for themselves (yes Jack Thompson I'm looking at you)
    • ryansmith18, on 05/09/2008, -2/+5Well...although they are obviously false statements....it sure would be awesome if they were in the game. Except maybe the torture and dismemberment...
      • dasdef, on 05/09/2008, -1/+8no leave that in.
        • Conwaysb0718, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4Yes, GTA IV + Manhunt would be an awesome, fun game.
      • PolarBearCa, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3They are saving that for GTA:Guantanamo
      • Rndm_Tngnt, on 05/10/2008, -1/+13So... you're pro rape?
        • ClemsonPoker, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Real rape or video game rape that is optional to completing the game?

          More options=better GTA.
    • diabolicdiablo, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Looks like the "Parents Television Council" & Dan Isett are jumping onto the hate-on-GTA bandwagon just to fit in.
    • oderdigg, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1What's worse is that there are enough powerful people that DO believe them that they stay funded forever.
    • markstory, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2I heard you can kill babies and sodomize the dead bodies. And one of the missions involved bestiality!!!

      Down with rockstar!!
  • haxr, on 05/09/2008, -14/+2Of course, you can't really hate a guy for creating an outrage to get publicity when people on the other side of the fence say Rockstar is doing the same thing.
    • a1532b, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4Well technically Rockstar games isn't making anything up about the "Parents Television Council" to make them seem like dicks.
      • Matri, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1They don't need to. These people are doing quite well making dicks of themselves.
  • soundsofreason, on 05/09/2008, -0/+39My question for you is this:
    When is Take Two going to cut out the middle man (GTA) and just start burning, raping, and eating babies?
    Because according to Jack T. and most of the mainstream media, it should have already begun.
    • stronglikedan, on 05/09/2008, -0/+12You just leave that to us players. It's great fun to do that IRL after a good game of GTA!
  • Braxo, on 05/09/2008, -6/+3I have yet to go drinking in GTA IV. I've been sober for 16 hours and probably will stay sober.
    • sycsix, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5Do you get a chip for that?
    • ricopicouk, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3Dude, - go get drunk its great fun trying to drive, - its inevitable that you will get cought by the cops, - and drink drive get away is grear fun.
      • Anpheus, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0Uh err... Are you going to the bars in game or in real life before driving drunk?
    • Surefly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Achievement unlocked?
      • Braxo, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Not that I know of. I just chose to not get drunk and arrested by the cops.
    • MasterGrief, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2I REALLY suggest you go drinking with your friends. Some of them can be downright hilarious when you get drunk--I point to Packie and Roman, specifically. Besides that, when you're as slam-drunk as you get in this game, it's funny all on its own to see your character stumbling around and occasionally falling over. Once, when I went to hail a cab, Niko just let loose with a guttural roar, apparently too far gone to properly accomplish the task.

      Go on, man, get yourself wasted. It's just a game, so why not?
    • volacide, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1It's funny that GTA4 has put the SIXAXIS motion control to the best use yet, I don't think anyone saw it coming. When you're drunk you use the SIXAXIS controller to balance yourself and stay upright. So for instance you can use the analog stick to push forward and walk and then tilt your controller backwards to balance yourself out as you walk. It's really cool and works very well.

      Also, flying helicopters takes some getting used to but now I wouldn't have it any other way! In that one mission where you have to chase the other dude in the helicopter I flew under that bridge and between the buildings with no troubles at all using the motion control and it was very satisfying to do so too!
  • omnithought, on 05/09/2008, -6/+48 Every so-called "do-gooder" who wants to protect kids from sex, violence, etc. should keep them away from the Bible too...all things being fair.
    • jedisushi, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1This.
    • antiorblkflag9, on 05/10/2008, -2/+9Considering the amount of violence commited by God... He desecrated whole cities and threatened to kill a man's only son just for kicks. Not to mention torturing a man almost to death just to prove The Devil wrong. That to me seems worse than a game that lets you drive drunk.
    • SharkyTech, on 05/10/2008, -0/+9Haha, do you really think any of these people have ever actually read the bible?!
  • mnemy, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7The very first thing I did when I jumped into the car after drinking on a date was to accidentally bump into a police car going ~5mph. Pretty realistic huh?
  • itsripitsrip, on 05/09/2008, -0/+33what's dumb, is no matter how slow you go, the cops STILL know you're drunk..
    one caught me and i tried to run him over. i hit a light pole.
    • Surefly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+41I'd pull you over too if you were going 5 mph.
    • BrewBeau, on 05/10/2008, -1/+7Maybe they'll patch in a field sobriety test minigame.
    • therightclique, on 05/10/2008, -1/+4that's only that first time. in subsequent drunken rampages, that can't tell at all.
    • kcmedic, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Ahh, the memories...
    • da_bradler, on 05/10/2008, -0/+8I will admit I drank and drove once. Here is what happened.

      I stumble out of the bar with Michelle(who of course is yelling at me) and after falling over her and falling into a stack of trash cans I finally get to my car. "I'm feeling pretty drunk, I should get a cab" Niko mumbles/shouts. Whatever I say, I'm a hired killer I can handle a little booze. I get into my car and Michelle follows. I'm driving down the road going about 10 mph across 4 lanes of traffic when the cops spot me. I gun it directly into some newspaper dispensers then onward. There are 2 cop cars behind me now hot on my heels, I make a hard right turn make it a couple hundred yards when I clip a light post doing about 40mph, not enough to knock it out just enough to knock off my passenger side door. I then proceed to spin out and smash into a building which sends flying my date out of the passenger seat onto the ground, still alive I go to retrieve her when a cop car who was chasing me comes barreling in unable to stop and runs over and kills my date... I never drank and drove again :(
      • Kyan, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1So, this GTA IV of which you speak reinforces socially responsible behaviour? It allows the young player to experience driving drunk while in reality actually sober (possibly not in all cases), see the hazards of drunk driving and make the decision to never again drive drunk?

        I guess it's either that or what goes on in GTZ, stays in GTA. It either doesn't affect you, or it does affect you.

        Heavy.

        Which reminds me. GTZ srsly needs to have a Delorean and let you go back to the future to run missions.
  • Jenadae, on 05/09/2008, -0/+17What ***** me off though was unlike previous GTAs there aren't any random drunk drivers on the road.
    • kidjesus, on 05/10/2008, -0/+12I don't know, I've definitely seen a lot of cars that are swerving for no good reason out on Liberty City's streets.
      • locke2002, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Not to mention San Andreas. When I got my license and started driving a real car on the freeway, I used to be very nervous and finally I realized why. It's because in San Andreas on the freeways, you'll be cruising along and suddenly a car will just change lanes. No blinker, no drifting or sliding into the line. One second it's in its lane. Then BAM it's in your lane right in front of you. Once I realized that's why I was so nervous driving on the freeway, I was able to relax a little.
  • matt.rubin, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4Michelle doesn't drink this ***** me off
    • smoothmann, on 05/10/2008, -8/+12MIchelle's a whore working for the feds

      ha
      • matt.rubin, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2did i just walk into a spoiler?
      • matt.rubin, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3***** SHE IS I JUST FINISHED THAT MISSION!
        • steviesteveo, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0That's really cold, I feel for you there
    • Conwaysb0718, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Carmen and Katie drink like fish (and man, they talk tons of ***** when they're drunk)... havent taken Kiki yet though.
    • antiorblkflag9, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6TELL ME INTERESTING THINGS!!!
  • cannabrain, on 05/10/2008, -0/+19I havent even PLAYED GTA IV yet but Im gonna go get a 12 pack and a full tank, just to see what happens.
    • locke2002, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1"but Im gonna go get a 12 pack and a full tank, just to see what happens."

      In GTA IV or in real life?
  • SoundJudgment, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1It's Jack Thompson's wife.
  • RobbleRobble, on 05/10/2008, -0/+39" "I reject the argument that an M-rated game is comparable to an R-rated movie. One, it doesn't require 30 hours of continuous game play to make your way through an R-rated movie," Isett said. "

    Oh, so if I spend 30 hours reading the Harry Potter series I'm going to end up running off a roof with a broom between my legs and expect to survive? Eh, nevermind. He's got so many logic problems that he probably thinks that fantasy books are just a gateway to Wicca.
    • captainchris, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1but books are harmless, remember
      • breadfred, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Depends on how heavy it is. I 've had blue toes before now.
    • Tryptomine, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3I'd be concerned to see a person spend "30 hours of CONTINUOUS game play" with any game...
    • da_bradler, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I would just like to ad there is nothing wrong with Wicca. Wicca is a consolidation of old world nature based religions which teach to respect and draw personal strength from nature. I'm not actually Wicca and don't really recommend following/joining there organized churches(mostly run by hippies/hermits) but the underlying principles are quite reasonable and a breath of fresh air compared to all the "one god" religions.
    • jabelar, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Actually, if it takes 30 hours to unlock the "bad" stuff, then I'd argue that it is less bad than an R-rated movie that doesn't require you to make any effort except sit on the couch for half an hour to get to the naughty parts.
  • davidjunit, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Jesus, that's like a whole 5 minutes in the game and this sensationalist writer hasn't even got that far... well, a little further but it really isn't that far into the game or I've been playing too much to have a good sense of time anymore, heh.
  • ThePenrod, on 05/10/2008, -0/+10I think after having experienced it in game, that the drunk driving aspect of the GTA 4 works as a deterrent for ever doing it in real life. I mean it's damn near impossible to walk while drunk in that game, let alone drive.
    • evilbob333, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3Honestly its easier to flag down a cab and take that home...I think I will try in real life.
    • ericrous, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1The cops are all over you like white on rice if you try to drive drunk. And it's a bitch to outrun them too, for obvious reasons (especially since you have to wait for your friend every time you switch cars).
  • antiorblkflag9, on 05/10/2008, -0/+24Yeah, it totally rewards you, like getting busted by the cops, or being thrown headfirst out of your windshield. Niko even says he should walk home tonight.
    • therightclique, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1you get the thumbs up for drinking with roman. it totally rewards you.
      • antiorblkflag9, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Not the driving part though, you can take a cab.
  • Cerebron, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Kate is great company when she's drunk.
    • Conwaysb0718, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2I disagree. All the women you date seem to talk a bunch of ***** to you when theyre wasted.
  • futimazar, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3zOMg! drunk driving! Beating a hooker dead with a bat to get you're money back I'm ok with, but c'mon lets try to keep this thing appropriate for the youngsters.
  • wenis, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3proof he didnt even play the ***** game...the drunk driving segment is in the first hour or two...idiot.
  • kidjesus, on 05/10/2008, -1/+4I'm sick of all the damn lies about GTA IV! People talking about "points," flamethrowers, chainsaws, and countless other things that simply do. not. exist. in the game. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take out this frustration by loading up GTA IV and blasting the first cartoon cop I see with a shotgun, then try and get up to 6 stars on a cross-city manhunt.
  • Punkazz189, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3Can't they just release the Porn game Tracy Jordan has been making?
    That would get all these critics off of GTA's back.
  • coresnake, on 05/10/2008, -4/+4Drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive?
  • DrBeaverhausen, on 05/10/2008, -0/+9I just got this game Wednesday. I'd never played any of the others in the series, and now I'm hooked. I'm getting a PSP later this summer and making sure I get the GTA titles for it. Saying that I'm very happy that if there is a drinking and driving part, I can take a cab. I'm having trouble catching the old man from the laundry mat in his van. Cut me some slack for this. I'm almost 34, a father of 3, and a very casual gamer. I let my 11 year old son play this game. We talked about it and he understands its not real. I think most kids his age can understand this. The kids see/hear about worse things every single day in the news. So unless you're willing to block them from the news, you should let them play games. Talk with them about it, parenting is a job that to many people who have chosen to have kids have decided not to do.
    • Taggart, on 05/10/2008, -0/+8I'm glad you're talking with your son, but I consider the game completely inappropriate for someone his age. But hey, that's your call.
      I guess its good you get to make that decision, even if I won't let my children play. I suppose that's the entire point of this overall debate.
  • Coffeedemon, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4If anything I'm scared to drink and drive in the game at all. The cops will take your weapons if you get busted so its not worth it - you're not fast enough to get away on foot. I hit a cop car just before entering the club with jacob. When I came out the bastards were waiting for me. Thought I could get a car but I was too slow. Tried to jump the guard rail and 6 cops lined up in a semicircle and unloaded their clips on me. At least the doctors didn't take my guns.
    • winmywii, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Plus even if you try to drive normal they can tell you are drunk and come after you. It is always best to die in the game so you don't loose your weapons.
      • Coffeedemon, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Basically the way I see it - if you drink and drive in game 9 times out of 10 you'll end up dead. That's probably even "better" statistics than in real life all things considered. Its not as though anyone is going to be keen to try it more than once - if that (depending on how much you love your weapon collection).
  • ThaDRD, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I hate the PTC and everything they stand for.
  • therightclique, on 05/10/2008, -10/+1To be fair, the game DOES reward you for drinking and driving. That doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a douche.
  • winmywii, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6The game is meant for adults. Adults can make the decision if they want to drive drunk or not. Also if driving drunk is as difficult as it is in the game count me out, that camera makes me sick.
  • normlsparky, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3i wish people would just stop whining about this game. the game is clearly labeled for mature players. if it upsets you, don't buy it. it really ***** me off when "morality man" constantly tries to shove his viewpoints down my throat. that goes for so much more than just video games.
  • halosniper7, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2***** broker. you run around for hours looking for a cab.
  • solid12345, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1What I don't get is why these reporters make ***** up, I mean if they are going to pull the morality card don't they have enough ammunition with the elements ALREADY in the game like being able to murder civilians, sleep with hookers, and all sort?
    • steviesteveo, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I've always considered these elements optional. Outside of missions even driving dangerously is optional.

      People are taking the sandbox with elements straight out of a movie and are playing with it, similarly people in real life take elements in the world and use them as they see fit. The fact that no one ends up permanently deo game is a big plus in its favour.
  • Quicksilver4648, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1You wanna know what is a head trip. Get Niko drunk then take a cab back around mid day when the sun is the highest. Look out of the front window and you will see a very dizzying array of colors and shapes. Psychedelic.
  • falafelkiosken, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1he confuses it with his real life
  • jessejace, on 05/11/2008, -0/+1He "rented it at a friend's house?" What, is his friend a Blockbuster Video? First learn how to speak, then you can learn how to lie about video games, buddy.
  • CryRightardCry, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Dan Isett of the "Parents Television Council" is a liar.
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