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- Exhaust, on 10/10/2007, -7/+75Damn that would be a pretty good feature especially if it could record high def content. High def DVR's aren't cheap.
- Micoderre, on 10/10/2007, -11/+73$600 for a game machine? Meh, maybe if my tax refund is high this year.
$600 for a game machine and a Blu-Ray player? Meh, too early to adopt a new format.
$600 for a game machine, Blu-Ray player and HD DVR? Now we're talkin'.
If this DVR becomes a reality, Blu-Ray gains a stronger foothold and real AAA titles start shipping, the PS3 has suddenly become a very attractive device. The 360 still has the HD video downloads and the lion's share of hot exclusives coming out soon, but a move like this would position the PS3 very well against it. - samdu, on 10/10/2007, -7/+35DVR functionality fits right in with an entertainment device. What's with the silly washing machine comment?
- mrgreen4242, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Of course USB can handle HD streams. ATSC HD broadcasts are 20MBit per second; cable and satellite are even less. USB2 has a (theoretical) maximum of 480Mbit/s... of course it's not THAT fast real world, but it's EASILY double the datarate of HD TV. There's no reason to do anything to the transport streams (until after their recorded) other than just writethem to a HDD. So, if there's a USB HD tuner for the PS3 (which there are plenty of on the market for computers) and that's doing tuning you can send that data direct to the internal HDD, and then either read it from there for live playback (which is how TiVo works, more or less). On the other hand, if they build the tuner into a new PS3 model you could stream it to an external HDD if you want, and have bandwidth to spare to read it back for live playback.
- mrgreen4242, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Yes.
- Snakedal337, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22Don't forget it's actually at $500 now :-)
- NiGHTSChao, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23I can't believe that people are complaining about this
If the Ps3 could write an essay for you or download music without anyone finding out would you complain about it?
Christ people, EXTRA functionality is a good thing - knightboat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Wikipedia says: "For Blu-ray Disc movies the maximum transfer rate is 48 Mbit/s."
USB2 can go up to 480Mbit/s, so it should be fine. - peterberry, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20The 360 doesn't really have DVR capabilities. It's just an extender for your Media Center PC. This article talks about making the PS3 a DVR without a PC.
- CalipsoII, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14XBMC sold untold numbers of consoles. What is your point?
- Narishma, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16It's called the Playstation 2.
- jiganto, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15Eh.... get a cheapo external USB tv tuner, install linux on the PS3, and get MythTV. Done deal.
People really don't realize how great of a media center computer the PS3 really is. Blue-Ray, plays PS3 games, and with linux support you can do everything else that a normal media center does for a fraction of the cost. - frequenicity, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Nice thing about the PS3 is that you can swap the HDD for any SATA drive...
- charlescheese, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Right, because they developed this only for a tiny country where they could only hope to sell no more than 100,000 of these max...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Uh, it is affordable.
$500/600 isn't pocket change, so if you spent one on the 360, you can't turn around and cry, "The PS3 is toooo expensive!!"
Maybe you shouldn't be burning up that kind of money if the price difference of $100 is going to make or break your decision. - Snakedal337, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11You mean like the one that was released?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_%28DVR%29 - silverwolfe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11The PS3 has a web browser, it had one since launch.
- Exhaust, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Obviously you're renting your box from Direct Tv or someone because the service itself is like $8 to $10 a month. If you tack it on to your existing cable or direct tv bill and rent the box it isn't that bad. I'm talking about going out and buying a kick ass HD Tivo box. They're like $700. Maybe a bit cheaper now.
- nerdvernacular, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Pretty awesome considering you can upgrade your PS3's hard drive easily without voiding your warranty in the process.
- Senseless, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Hate titles that make concrete claims that the articles don't. This is a comment from someone in Sony talking about "Hoping" to add a digital tuner, not a press release from Sony Japan saying they have an add-on product slated. I think Sony will be concentrating more on getting rid of their excess PS3 inventory than in investing more $$ in R&D and peripheral production..
- FutureGuy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I would prefer a DVR. When you think about it, do you really want your gaming console to be grinding away in the background when you playing games? I would personally prefer a seperate device doing that, but that's me.
- isuisorisuaint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11the tivo hd boxes are a lot cheaper now actually...$299.99 +service
https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxdetails.do?boxName=180hourtivohd&boxsku=R65216 - locd32, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Just swap out a sata hard drive of your choice on the PS3...
- bigsteve, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Now, I'm a guy who's last console purchased was a Dreamcast in need of a refurbin', but I think you're on to something, and here's some more...
$600 for TWO game machines [I never had a PS2...], Blu-Ray player, HD DVR, media player, Linux machine, distributed networking client and decent platform for experimenting with Cell programming? This is getting more and more interesting. I'd like to see it running DISTCC helping my old thinkpad compile kernels.
This machine's Linux potential, I think, is still far from realized. If there was only a decent gfx chip driver available, we could really provide this functionality ourselves right now via any number of the available USB HD tuners out there and something like MythTV. One box could be your PS2, PS3, HD DVR, console emulation station, DVD/BluRay player, HD DVD player [it'd certainly be something if a PPC Linux driver appeared for that XBox360 HDDVD USB drive...] as well as a HTTP and possible IP TV client down the road.
My fiance would buy me one just to have all the other ***** out of the living room, not even mentioning the savings in electricity. And I might even buy a PS3 game. Maybe. - iceperson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Actually you haven't been doing it with with 360. You've been doing it with your PC.
Oh, and 4 500Gb drives to keep up with what your family watches? Perhaps you should try going outside or perhaps reading a book? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Have you ever even used a PS3 before, or are you just following the herd throwing out random nonsense because you saw someone else do it?
- fishrjv, on 10/10/2007, -15/+21Can't Sony just sell me an affordable gaming console?
- nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Is USB fast enough to transfer HD? Honestly, I have no idea.
- kenvsryu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Here's the ps3 using dvb-t http://ps3mods.blogspot.com/2007/01/ps3-cell-flash-flv-player.html
and a mini guide http://ps3mods.blogspot.com/2007/02/dvb-t-usb-for-ps3-mini-guide.html - Snakedal337, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6It didn't even reach the US, it was a seperate box, the PS Controllers barely worked with it, and it was extremely expensive for what it did. Not to mention not too many understood the "Tivo" concept yet, now DVRs are the hottest selling boxes with cable and sat orders. This is just a "PS3 Extra Feature" that will be a free update to the community, so you don't even have to use it, though it makes no sense not to.
If this were separate hardware, I could understand where your coming from, but its not. - Foxhound1979, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Suprise suprise. Positive news for the PS3 and its being twisted as a negative by a few morons.
- damndj, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Cool idea I suppose. It would have to have cable card abilities as well as OTA antenna hookups to be worthwhile.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Surprise! You're oblivious!
"A lot of people think that the PS3 is just a games machine. It's not a games machine. Well (laughs), it is, but it isn't (laughs again). It's a future-proofed super computer." - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5DVB-T is a standard adopted in many, many countries worldwide including New Zealand, Australia and many western European nations like the United Kingdom, Germany and France.
They have millions of potential customers. - DrThunder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I think the 20mb per second is for a mpeg format if they were able to re encode on the fly with a different codec like mp4 it would be like 5x the time.
- locd32, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Finally someone who actually gets it.
- fredkreuger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"excataly how is 600$ a *fraction* of 300$?"
2/1 - hauln4, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The guy in this article is from Sony New Zealand. Here in NZ, Freeview is just launching which uses DVB technology (its also free-to-air) and Sony knows that more people here will buy it. The PS3 is selling in records numbers in NZ this could be why Freeview is trying to get Sony on board because we only have 1 other digital broadcaster here (Sky TV) which you have to pay for. It would probably be just something that plugs into usb port so I don't see why Sony USA and Sony Europe can't release attachable devices themselves. Sony's approach to the PS3 (creating a hi end system which can't even be developed to use 100% of its resources yet, then just constantly releasing updates to add features) seems to be the one that will pay off big time in the next few years once the U.S finally starts to see that the PS3 is an almost god-like console. The reason it might be harder to do in the U.S is because you have quite a few digital broadcasters, which would mean multiple technologies. Once U.S broadcasters realise what the PS3 can do with legitimate DVR options coming as a standard function, they might just release digital tuners as well.
- mogdor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6A ps3 with Tivo would definitely convince me to dish out $500. Heck I'd pay $600 for that.
- lsatkins, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Do you know of a better way to record encrypted HD content then to rent a box from your cable provider? Of course there are a couple htpc's you can buy that have cable cards in them, but they run around $2000 so you are still paying for it.
- bCabulon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4So, he's doing it with his Xbox + his PC. iceperson's point about the xbox not doing dvr is still valid. The PC is the part that recording the broadcast.
- dunlop, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4How well doe MythTV work on a PS3? I will happily ebay my Wii and pick up a PS3 if it is decent.
Also being the dirty canuck that I am....does it work with Expressvu? - jiganto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Lets just say that there isn't anything really that you can't get to work with Linux with a little fiddling. If it doesn't work now, it will eventually.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythTV_on_Playstation3 - lsatkins, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think on my dvr I can get like 20 hours of HD on it and 100 hours of SD shows and it has a 100 gb hd (cox hd dvr). So that's like 5 gig/hour for HD video?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It has DVR functionality.
Install Linux. Use MythTV. Open up a share on the machine that you're currently using to troll digg.
The distros are free, the OtherOS boot loader and instructions are available all over the internet.
While it's not *native* to the PS3's release OS, the fact that they pretty much encourage you to install Linux opens up all sorts of doors for this type of functionality. - jacksons98, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Yeh, I guess Lair, Warhawk, GRAW2, Dynasty Warriors, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Stuntman: Ignition, High Stakes Poker, and more for just the month of August don't count right?
source: IGN release list - Kniggit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This entire change is in software and in the licenses for it. There's very little to change on the PS3 other than the addition of a tuner, and that can be done with around $10 in parts (yes, even for a digital tuner). Most of the rest of the functions including transport stream offloading, MPEG decoding/encoding and data transfer to/from the built-in hard drive can all be handled now.
Not gaming related, but seems like a decent bang for the buck in terms of effort. - MisterPink, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I just hope it's nothing like the current sony DVR I have(DGH HDD250). That thing is a piece of junk, the search funtionability is useless, it can only record based on a time(you can search for a name, but it sets a timed recording rather then a show recording). I have to reset it at least once a week in order for it to have all my channels. It took 3 cable cards before one worked. and it is so slow I can read a book while setting up my recordings.
- charlescheese, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3huh? This is an add on.
- OmEgA286, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3@JlmAWP
you are a ***** troll. if i am not mistaken the ps3 had a damn good showing at e3 with a lot of good games coming out. this dvr is just sprinkles on a already delicious cake. -
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