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- noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9most of the poker sites are taking the stance that poker isn't a game of chance, its a game of skill, so its exempt from the legislation (which only hits games of chance and gambling based on randomnesss).
- lidflipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Since when has ANY law been able to stop a $15 BILLION industry. Companies WILL find a way to get to that business.
- blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Terrible law.
- kingpin2k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Have you seen a republican recently? Do they look like fun is on their agenda? If you smoke pot and play cards, the terrorists win!!!
- cosmicv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Did anyone really expect this to be even moderately effective? (sarcasm on) And for their next trick, they will legislate away file sharing with the stroke of a pen
- matariel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I don't think it's that...I think the government just wants a piece of the pie...they'd rather shut these sites down, and have the american casinos open up online gaming. I'm sure the US casinos played a big part in pushing this through.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9i just wanna let everyone know that i love digg mainly because of the comments section. all of you guys are great. this site wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for all the discussion in the comment section from all you intellectual people. thanks for entertaining and informing me through your witty comments.
- awm4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Who would have guessed?
(//sarcasm) - empeethree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think the government just doesn't want anyone to have any kind of fun. One would think they have more important issues to address.
- lidflipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, Las Vegas was really warming up to online gaming. They wanted to get in on all the money. Not only is this law stupid, the way it was passed (snuck into the port security bill by Bill Frist at the last minute) is an embarrassment to democracy.
- dmorel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Neteller may be backing out though... They issued a press release saying things are staying the same for now, but that once the legislature decided how they are going implement the new law they likely will comply with it. This would probably be the biggest hit to online poker that would come from the new law, aside from party shuttering it's windows to the US of course.
- george99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It may have been the government that pushed this bit of legislation through, but I'm pretty sure it was the casinos in las vegas who started the ball rolling.
I'd like to know more about what the real reasons are, especially since betting on horse racing online is still okay.
I think this says it best: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xtqhhy4sx-U - rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, which is a shame - when the bill was first passed, I heard only credit card companies were subject, so I thought Neteller would survive. Their response is here: http://www.robertmedl.com/blog/
On the other hand, there are articles floating around saying that the WTO of all people might strike this down as unlawful, since it discourages free trade. Which is quite awesome in my opinion, because it's usually the US telling other countries what they can and can't do (through the WTO). - imjustsayin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Las Vegas gaming interests were/are warming up to the thought of on-line gaming run by THEM. They still fight hard to shut down the current (foreign) operators.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Morality is being deeply infused within Christians. The two big political parties are no more christian than the gangsters who kill on saturday and go to church on sunday to make it all better. They only listen to the christian lobby groups because to offend them, is to the lose the election.
- kingpin2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The US has already lost a WTO case (and lost on appeal) for their original onling gambling legislation.
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I'm not affiliated. - imtigger2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a bummer that the pussies at intercasino.com decided to completely stop taking wagers from anyone in the U.S. It 'was' the best online casino for sure.
- themarq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think NETELLER will be backing out unless it's explicitly illegal for them to transact in the USA (which is highly unlikley). But yeah, if the gov't of the United States of Jesusland says "It's illegal for you to do business in our church-state," would you expect them to keep doing it?
- TheGeneral, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I just don't get the justification for this at all. What does this solve? I can't believe morality is being so deeply infused within politics.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why is gambling within your limits unChristian? If spending a small amount of money is wrong, then down with the movie theatre and every other entertainment?
- revtom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Amen, brother. I'm getting pretty tired of that myself.
And I consider myself religious. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Las Vegas doesn't need to make their money by starting a gambling site, they're frolicking in all of the media attention, hordes of TV crews, and events like the WSOP. Vegas is more than gambling, it's hotels, food, entertainment and more. All of this stuff is staged and filmed in a casino, that they have to rent out.. It's great business for them.
PS: I think it's a great time to buy shares in CRYP, for what it's worth. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Newsflash: whoever claimed this law would stop gambling was lying. Unelect them.
- imtigger2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you don't mind sharing.. even privately, were you able to set up an account outside the U.S. for deposit? If so, how/where? I'd love to get back on board with intercasino (wagelogic?). Thanks...
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If I had the money I would be investing in online gambling sites right now. The price is right and it's only a matter of time before they either:
A. Find a way around the laws
B. Expand into other world markets - RicDesan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm a serious poker player and the day after this shut my previous e-wallet, I took a few additional steps to set up a new arrangement and make a deposit. It was hardly anymore difficult than the previous arrangement, and I was up and playing per usual. This new legislation is lip service to stopping the world of online gambling - particularly poker - and just like the guy in the article indicated ... if we want to play ... trust me we will play.
- AsianChexMix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not sure if it has to do with religion because I'm Christian and don't see it as a way to help religion because I honestly have been guilty of playing (and being successful) online poker. It really is all about tax money. If they can't have a piece of the pie, they will take it away from us. Online gaming has been "taken away" in a matter of a couple months (or whatever the lifespan of the bill was) but yet child pornography and all the other things that SHOULD be a higher priority isn't even being touched? I'm sure the U.S. government should have other things on their mind than betting on our favorite games or playing poker.....
- SenisBS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's my money and I want to spend it anyway I like.
- sheasie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i bet this guy would win at poker... maybe not online.. but gambling at a vegas casino, fo sho! hmm... maybe online gambling too... he seems pretty wiley ;)
http://www.theblackjacktable.com [url=http://www.theblackjacktable.com] - turnTaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you have a good point, but $6B is chump change relative to the big picture.
$6billion? was it really worth it to piss off a bunch of people by taking away an otherwise harmless activity AND introduce a morality issue into legislation?
my point is that online gambling was SO NOT a big, nation-dividing issue that we absolutely had to legislate some guidelines lest our children all turn into habitual gamblers! it was a nod to the conservative right pre-November. - orphanmama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love to gamble online, but how foolish is it of us (us citizens) to not recognize that sending 6 billion dollars out of our country without getting any share of that back isn't "trade". The US should get a piece of that, so I think we should open some sites...I personally would be loyal to our country.
- Darkness123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The US was built with this in mind. The State and Religion are 2 different things. But lately it has now become nearly 1 with each other, Religion effecting what the State does.
- revtom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Agreed, and they are gonna regret it. The loss of revenue from the online entries into tournaments is going to cost them a ton, both directly and indirectly in terms of advertising and residuals.
I still think the main push was to toss a bone to the Republican base right before the election while doing something that is easily defensible. "Only degenerates will be unhappy about this."
Whatever. - AsianChexMix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's not the act of gambling that is wrong, I believe. It's the greed, the envy and all of the emotions that has to do with it....but that is off topic....;)
- streetsmartchic, on 01/30/2008, -0/+0many online gambler will react on that law.... As long as the parimutuel betting online is legal it won't bother me...
http://www.kanati.com.ph - sbdog, on 11/29/2008, -0/+0Why not US ban horse betting too? this is unfair http://www.sportsbetting1stop.com/
- expertblogger, on 03/04/2008, -0/+0The US should get a piece of that, so I think we should open some sites...I personally would be loyal to our country. It was hardly anymore difficult than the previous arrangement, and I was up and playing per usual. This new legislation is lip service to stopping the world of online gambling - particularly poker - and just like the guy in the article indicated ... if we want to play ... trust me we will play. http://win.newlifestyleguide.com
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prohabition was passed and it shut down the alcohol industry for a while.
firearms are illegal in great brittain.
tobacco industry is getting hit with a lot of laws and restrictions, but they're still fine. - revtom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The government, or the Religious Right?
- revtom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I don't see much coming from the WTO ruling. How often does international law REALLY have an effect on U.S. enforcement or jurisprudence.
The options are still there, but the government wants to dip their beak. End of story.
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